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Anyone catch the UFO behind bush?

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posted on Sep, 8 2005 @ 12:51 AM
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I didn't see the video and I dont care what the heck it is, but:
I'm going to agree that it is definetly an unidentified flying object of some kind, only probably not a saucer shaped one. Of course I've seen better images in clouds...





posted on Sep, 8 2005 @ 12:58 AM
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Helicopter. You can see the main and tail rotors in those pics. Not too mention the body looks like that of a bell ranger



posted on Sep, 8 2005 @ 02:29 AM
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I was raised as a military brat and it looked to me to be a helicopter that the three were flying in formation to protect the air space while Bush was there.

The air space has to be secure when there is an official on the base. I am not familiar with the names of helicopters; however, it didn't surprise me to see several of them flying around while Bush was talking.



posted on Sep, 8 2005 @ 03:00 AM
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Originally posted by Conspiracy Theorist06
Notice he paused like right after the "UFO" came by and 2 helicopters. I found it strange.


Thats just his akward pauses like he alwyas does. Hah.

But seriously very intersting, good eye.



posted on Sep, 8 2005 @ 04:40 AM
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Originally posted by Paladin327
So, if these helos are filled with people that were resuced and they just happened to be heading to the same place, they have to go seperatly? and what makes you think they're army? chances are they are national gaurd


??? Blackhawk helicopers are millitary aren't they?
If they are carring people, that would definately be logical, but who knows if they are? Or if they are going in the direction the people are being evacuvated to?


Originally posted by ViolatoR
I didn't see the video and I dont care what the heck it is, but:
I'm going to agree that it is definetly an unidentified flying object of some kind, only probably not a saucer shaped one. Of course I've seen better images in clouds...



Well that's good, except the hilicoper was flying from left to right, not from right to left.



posted on Sep, 8 2005 @ 05:38 AM
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If it were an unidentified flying object in the immediate air space where the President was, wouldn't someone ( i.e. secret service ) have ushered him away for safety reasons. As we see a few seconds of footage, the actual duration of the 'pursuit' would have given ample time to alert the President and his staff of anything they may appear hostile.

In the video, it appears that the helicopters are not flying erratically nor in a manner to suggest they are in pursuit of anything.



posted on Sep, 8 2005 @ 05:45 AM
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Originally posted by Manincloak


Originally posted by ViolatoR
I didn't see the video and I dont care what the heck it is, but:
I'm going to agree that it is definetly an unidentified flying object of some kind, only probably not a saucer shaped one. Of course I've seen better images in clouds...



Well that's good, except the hilicoper was flying from left to right, not from right to left.


Yeah but someone said it came in fast then slowed down, and in the picture it looks like its going away from the camera more than it is left to right. Maybe it was flying like the other coptors and turned left and flew in the direction away from the camera.



posted on Sep, 8 2005 @ 05:46 AM
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It's an OH-58 Kiowa Warrior. They use them to lead Blackhawks around all the time. We see that every couple of days here when they go between islands. The Kiowa is a scout helicopter. We'll see them flying with up to 6 UH-60s flying behind them at least once a week here. The Kiowas are also super quiet, so that they can hide and not have everyone within three miles know there is a helicopter out there while they look for targets. It doesn't make sense to have a scout helicopter that's not quiet.

[edit on 8-9-2005 by Zaphod58]



posted on Sep, 8 2005 @ 06:11 AM
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I don't know if that is a UFO, a drone, or a helicopter.

But did anyone else catch where Bush stumbled over his words and said "people...are working to breach that - uh - to fill that breach?"

it's just at the 2:00 minute mark..



posted on Sep, 8 2005 @ 06:15 AM
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Right as the "UFO" clears bushes head I can make out the rotors ever so slightly. It's a 'copter in my opinion.



posted on Sep, 8 2005 @ 06:17 AM
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I was thinking more of a OH-60D. Fits the profile of the seemingly "ball" object in the video.



Misfit



posted on Sep, 8 2005 @ 06:20 AM
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The Kiowas play pathfinder with the UH-60s, the Little Birds operate with Special Ops SOAR units. These were probably returning from a rescue or resupply mission, which would be a bad mission for the Little Birds to fly, since they wouldn't be able to carry as much as a Kiowa.

That's DEFINATELY a Kiowa. If you pause it right as it enters the shot, you can see the elongated fuselage of the OH-58. I just paused it right as it goes over the edge of the building on the left of the screen and it's very clearly an OH-58.
www.shanaberger.com...

Oh and that should be OH/AH/MH-6D in your picture btw Misfit. A 60 would be some form of Blackhawk.

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[edit on 8-9-2005 by Zaphod58]



posted on Sep, 8 2005 @ 06:36 AM
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Originally posted by Zaphod58
If you pause it right as it enters the shot............


WMP6 has good pause functoin, but doesn't have the codecs for the vid.
WMP7 won't pause worth CRAP where ya need it
WMP10 is NOT going on my machines.
Stream is futile for finding a time frame point.
I'll install JetAudio this evening, damn thing will play a friggen ukelele if ya want, heh; will check it out then.
I could not see any elongated area in the video, but then, I dont have crap for pause right now.

Misfit



posted on Sep, 8 2005 @ 06:56 AM
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It's just for the first second as it's flying past, right as it starts to pass over the building. I had it full screen and just happened to catch it just right.



posted on Sep, 8 2005 @ 07:19 AM
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MisFit if you take a look at the post from VialatoR just up from your`s it does`nt really fit the shape of the one you posted,the one in the vid is more full bodied.More this shape but obviously not this type.



At least this thread is heading in the right direction now.

I think the thread tittle should be changed to Anyone catch what type helicopter that was behind bush.



posted on Sep, 8 2005 @ 07:21 AM
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Do a search for pics of the OH-58. it's a perfect match for the shape. If there's one thing I'm good at it's identifying aircraft.
It's definately a Kiowa. The ones in his post are the Blackhawks that were behind the Kiowa. The lead is a Kiowa Warrior being a pathfinder leading two Blackhawks.

[edit on 8-9-2005 by Zaphod58]



posted on Sep, 8 2005 @ 01:49 PM
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Zaphod the debunker who fails at debunking anything;

The little shape in the film have no tail, so no amount of helicopter pictures proves anything other than that it is not a chopter.

Its so small it could not have had any use in any rescue operation. Don't look at the edited pictures in this thread, see the film.



posted on Sep, 8 2005 @ 03:07 PM
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Ok people, that "object" is very blurry and unclear. I will agree that it looks "interesting" but that is all. Unless you are a professional you are not at liberty to decide whether something you see is a genuine unexplained flying object or not because you lack professional analysis skills. Remember, most ufo's can be explained and the object in question is just to blurry to conclude anything. Also, if it was something out of the ordinary don't you think there would have been some sort of reaction from the crowds of people that could have seen the object easily?

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posted on Sep, 8 2005 @ 04:07 PM
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My vote would be a dolphin helicopter. It fits the shape shown in the earlier posts.



posted on Sep, 8 2005 @ 04:40 PM
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K then, I got my jetAudio in, then watched/paused/slid this at the objects first appearance, also got different screen shots to put in a photo app and sharpen ......... I'm def going with one of the more elongated-fuselage/full-tail helicopters.

On another substantial "is a chopper" note - were this a valid UFO, I just don't see the attack/support choppers behind it keeping in a formation of A-B travel, that being, they would have been spit up as to engage, not in a straight line formation for general travel. This thought also goes with whomever it was that brought up, about "UFO in the sky, but the people in the vid remain in calm stance".

On a side note ....... eh JIMC5499. any chance of resizing your pic and re-upping, to avoid the neccessity of left/right page scrolling that it currently invokes? I can't imagine how far folks using 800x600 res have to scroll, heh.

Misfit




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