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POLITICS: New Orleans mayor fears CIA to take him out

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posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 08:47 PM
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Ok I'm no psychologist but I've had a good couple years of playing interogator with classmates and my brother. And those years have taught me one thing, people develop fears like that for only two reasons. Either A. It's paranoia or B. He's done something that he's not telling the public.

It's possible that all the stress and trauma may be causing a case of paranoia. However even that seems somewhat unfounded, therefore I think that theres more to the story than what he's telling.




posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 08:52 PM
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Ok, I'm going to post this for all.

It's called "dark Humor" and it is highly prevalent throughout the armed forces.

I know civilians don't understand such things, but I was in the military for 4 yrs(82nd abn.) and we lived for "dark humor". It kept us going when things were pretty bad.


He was kidding.



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 09:03 PM
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I didn't know Ray Nagin served in the armed forces?

In fact, I've not seen anyone else claim he said it as a joke.

There are certain times when people do not joke, when talking about the response time by the Armed Forces and the potential loss of tens-of-thousands of peoples lives, I highly doubt he would then make a joke.



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 09:05 PM
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Originally posted by Odium
smallpeeps, maybe you should do the same?

"If the CIA slips me something and next week you don't see me, you'll all know what happened."

That line is not a "joke" especailly during a time like this and during a National Emergency. It's far from something to joke about...


Well, if you are working in the armed forces in a field that has sensitive information we are usually told that if anyone asks what we do, to tell them.. "I could tell you, but then I'll have to kill you." (BTW, I do not work for the military anymore.)

That kind of comment is half joke half truth, but I assure you noone in the military is going to kill anyone if they are asked what they do for a living, they just won't tell you.

I don't really put much trust in prison planet. I would prefer seeing the video and then making my own mind as to what was said.


[edit on 4-9-2005 by Muaddib]



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 09:06 PM
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This was posted yesterday on worldnetdaily, I thought that source wasnt legit but I am not sure.



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 09:10 PM
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Why would you joke though when your press office had just released this:


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A state of emergency has been declared for the City of New Orleans. Citizens are advised to:
• Fill their cars with gas. Tolls have been suspended on roadways.
• Remove potential debris from their yards (including lawn furniture, potted plants, loose tree branches, etc.)
• Board windows and glass doors
• Make sure that nearby catch basins are clear of leaves or trash
• Stock up on bottled water, batteries, and non-perishable food items
• Check on family, friends and neighbors, especially the elderly, to make sure everyone has an evacuation plan
• Make provisions for pets. Shelters and many hotels do not accept pets.


There are moments when people joke and moments when they do not, if he made a joke about that during this moment it was in such poor taste I hope he gets voted out of office.

Especailly as what he was saying before it.



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 09:17 PM
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Odium,

"There are certain times when people do not joke, when talking about the response time by the Armed Forces and the potential loss of tens-of-thousands of peoples lives, I highly doubt he would then make a joke."

Maybe it was inappropriate for the public to see such, but we often employed "dark humor" to cut tension.

I asked my AI in jump school what happens if none of your chutes opens and he said," you just snap to attention, yell a mighty "Airborne" and put one arm straight up so it will be easier to pull your body out of the hole when they find you." and everybody laughed.













[edit on 9/5/2005 by bodebliss]



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 09:20 PM
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But why would he use "Dark Humour" when trying to address people during such an important event?

It makes no sense to joke about things like that, when thousands of people could die none whatsoever.



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 09:32 PM
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Originally posted by Odium
But why would he use "Dark Humour" when trying to address people during such an important event?

It makes no sense to joke about things like that, when thousands of people could die none whatsoever.


Some people use dark humor under dark times to take their minds off, and the minds of those around them, from mulling over the problems and trying to raise the moral of people.



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 09:35 PM
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He's been under some stress lately.

I remember once on maneuvers, we jumped in and marched w/ 100 lb packs for 72 hours w/ 2 hrs sleep and then got to ride tanks. While riding those tanks a "enemy" soldier was run over, and dragged and dragged back and dragged forward. Finally they made the tanker stop so they could pull the injured soldier out from under the tank. There was alot of laughing and off-hand(dark humor) comments because we were so beat we couldn't hold back any longer.

I must admit looking back it probably would not pass muster of what a normal reaction should look like, but it was all we had.

And then there was the time our 1st sergeant fell from 1100 ft and his chutes rapped around each other....

or the time we were out in the impact area and live round were falling so close, so close dirt was hitting us in the back of the head w/ our faces in the dirt and...(my comment that got a smile was, 'anybody here ready to die')


...etc

All these were cemented w/ "dark humor".











[edit on 9/5/2005 by bodebliss]



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 09:38 PM
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Im beginning to think Alex Jones and his Prison Planet and Infowars info is being used as a antagonistic tool by the powers that be. Knowingly or unknowingly I think Alex is being manipulated and if we arent careful someone or group is gonna go offsides and provoke a martial law situation where people have to be rounded up. We need to think this thing out. When I read this at first about the CIA taking out the Mayor for being pissed off and rightfully so, I found myself automatically thinking if this happens Ill take out the CIA



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 09:42 PM
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Oh yeah the CIA would never dream of assassinating a political figure, especially in its home country the U.S.A.

JFK... remember him? Back and to the left, back and to the left.. keep saying that and believing that Oswald was a lone gunman.

How about RFK? Oh another crazed lone gunman I suppose...


How come crazed lone gunmen only seem to go after men of peace and true leadership who seek to unite all and divide none?

Same with MLK, and many many others (Senator Paul Wellstone unsolved to this day and many have their suspicions) and international incidents involving the CIA.

No, the CIA would never attempt or go ahead with a covert assassination plan. It's not what they do.... they do, uh.. uhhh... what does the CIA do and what is it famous for?



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 09:45 PM
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I believe bodebliss is correct. The guy is under a lot of stress, doubtless, but I don't think he could seriously believe the CIA would kill him.

Nagin's got a good sense of humor I wager, and he's got balls. He's not the brightest bulb in the box however, because joking about getting killed by the CIA is fine amongst friends or at the bar, but when you're a public figure expressing yourself to the media, it's wise not to be so casual. The fact that he's got this on him now makes him sound like crazy man X.

It's self-defeating from his point of view.

I wouldn't want to be him right now, because when you go out on a limb in politics, there's always a helpful adversary nearby with a chainsaw and a can of gas. This man has got enemies he'll never even know about, but I do believe he'll feel the repurcussions.

There's a pattern in history that bears mentioning. When Mayors make it to the national media, it's usually one of two things, either they're making demands or they're about to be disgraced. Either their career is about to get interesting, or their career is about to end. It's not always like that, but it usually is.

I honestly don't know what Nagin's future holds in store for him. It will be interesting to see.



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 09:46 PM
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but but Rebel Saint,,,thats just silly conspiracy theories and Art Bell, Tin Foil hat stuff




Im convinced the people that have not woken up to the fact there is a definate conspiracy taking place on a mass level by September 5th 2005 12:00am CST. There is no hope for them ever waking up, no matter what.



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 09:57 PM
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"because joking about getting killed by the CIA is fine amongst friends or at the bar, but when you're a public figure expressing yourself to the media, it's wise not to be so casual."

Exactly, Wyrdeone.

He should keep such comments out of the media spotlight, unless he's thinking of retiring from public life after this.



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 10:51 PM
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ok look one of two things happen from here, saying this either
A. he just commited political suicide, because people would be like how could u say such things during such a time of crisis, how can u not act serious during a time like that or
B. hes hiding sumthing and althought hes not telling the truth he wants to make sure we know that incase he goes that we at least suspect sumthing.



posted on Sep, 5 2005 @ 12:10 AM
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I won't go into the horrorific and catastrophic nature of the major issue.

I'll just say that the mayor knows the world is watching and that's going to mess any guy up a lot at a time like this. Whatever blame is already going on, it's all I can do to comprehend the situation. In the present, no matter how many balls were dropped along the way, I can't imagine the frustration he must have when things are obviously not working correctly right NOW.

It doesn't sound like there was any preparation at all. No central "safe" locations for different areas. And that's just at the local level.

Do we in the US even have forces at home anymore? I can't fathom why battalions of rafts weren't dropped immediately to save people and set up patrols. Fema's been a joke from day one but it is certainly not funny anymore.

It seems that 1000 protestors can be scooped up at the blink of a republican convention's eye or a city can be locked down for an outrageous inauguration but I think everyone responsible had last weekend off and took their phones off the hook.

The CIA probably isn't any more organized than anyone else lately and they're just reading our mail and listening to our phone calls anyway because no one can speak arabic.

This was a misplaced jab by an overwhelmed mayor at the feds. Nothing more.


[edit on 5-9-2005 by 2nd Hand Thoughts]



posted on Sep, 5 2005 @ 12:57 AM
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Originally posted by grimreaper797

A. he just commited political suicide, because people would be like how could u say such things during such a time of crisis, how can u not act serious during a time like that or
B. hes hiding sumthing and althought hes not telling the truth he wants to make sure we know that incase he goes that we at least suspect sumthing.



I stand by original assumption. Nagin is telling it like it is and stepping on a lot of powerful toes. This man is no dummy. He knows how the system works.

So he has a reason for making that remark. And he knows more about what is taking place behind the scenes that we do.

BTW, even 'dark humor' has a grain of truth in it.



posted on Sep, 5 2005 @ 01:17 AM
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Originally posted by 2nd Hand Thoughts
I won't go into the horrorific and catastrophic nature of the major issue.

I'll just say that the mayor knows the world is watching and that's going to mess any guy up a lot at a time like this. Whatever blame is already going on, it's all I can do to comprehend the situation. In the present, no matter how many balls were dropped along the way, I can't imagine the frustration he must have when things are obviously not working correctly right NOW.

It doesn't sound like there was any preparation at all. No central "safe" locations for different areas. And that's just at the local level.

Do we in the US even have forces at home anymore? I can't fathom why battalions of rafts weren't dropped immediately to save people and set up patrols. Fema's been a joke from day one but it is certainly not funny anymore.

It seems that 1000 protestors can be scooped up at the blink of a republican convention's eye or a city can be locked down for an outrageous inauguration but I think everyone responsible had last weekend off and took their phones off the hook.

The CIA probably isn't any more organized than anyone else lately and they're just reading our mail and listening to our phone calls anyway because no one can speak arabic.

This was a misplaced jab by an overwhelmed mayor at the feds. Nothing more.


[edit on 5-9-2005 by 2nd Hand Thoughts]


I totally agree that this was a jab by the Mayor, and nothing more.
As far as FEMA goes, they supposedly staged a emergency situation in New Orleans not that long ago. What a joke.



posted on Sep, 5 2005 @ 02:04 AM
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i think he's giving himself a little life insurance. he feels he's said too much(listen to the audiohere) and feels there may be a retalialtion. by publicly "joking" that the cia is going to off him, 'cause he's said too much', he will be harder to off while he's still in the public eye.




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