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NEWS: Bush administration requested control over N.O. Evacuation On Friday

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posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 12:02 PM
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As more details emerge in what has to be one of the biggest disaster failures in U.S. history the Washington Post has put forth a story that details a power struggle between federal officials and Louisiana Governor Kathleen Babineaux Blanco. Bush administration officials sent a legal memorandum to the Governor asking that she request a federal takeover of the evacuation plans of New Orleans. After an lengthy debate this request was rejected with concerns that this might be a federal declaration of martial law.
 



www.washingtonpost.com
Behind the scenes, a power struggle emerged, as federal officials tried to wrest authority from Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco (D). Shortly before midnight Friday, the Bush administration sent her a proposed legal memorandum asking her to request a federal takeover of the evacuation of New Orleans, a source within the state's emergency operations center said Saturday.

The administration sought unified control over all local police and state National Guard units reporting to the governor. Louisiana officials rejected the request after talks throughout the night, concerned that such a move would be comparable to a federal declaration of martial law. Some officials in the state suspected a political motive behind the request. "Quite frankly, if they'd been able to pull off taking it away from the locals, they then could have blamed everything on the locals," said the source, who does not have the authority to speak publicly.

A senior administration official said that Bush has clear legal authority to federalize National Guard units to quell civil disturbances under the Insurrection Act and will continue to try to unify the chains of command that are split among the president, the Louisiana governor and the New Orleans mayor.

Louisiana did not reach out to a multi-state mutual aid compact for assistance until Wednesday, three state and federal officials said. As of Saturday, Blanco still had not declared a state of emergency, the senior Bush official said.


Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


It seems that politics played an ugly part in all of this. It also highlights that the federal government cannot simply go into states at will, but rather must be invited. The failures of Katrina were a top to bottom fiasco and there is plenty of blame to spread around.



[edit on 4-9-2005 by EvilSockPuppet]




posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 12:15 PM
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What a crock of B.S.

THURSDAY is when Blanco made her "demand" for 40,000 Natl Guard troops...

www.cnn.com...

Now, don't get me wrong. She's as guilty as Bush is at this point because she had been offered troops from N.M. and AZ as early as Tuesday and apparently the offers weren't the right color partisan for her to accept.

But the White House is full of # on this one. They didn't need to wait for anybody to turn anything over to them.

GAWD I'M GETTING SICKER OF EVERYBODY INVOLVED IN THIS BY THE MINUTE!!!!!!!!



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 12:20 PM
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In my opinion we had a total failure from top to bottom of all levels of government.



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 12:37 PM
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Trying to sidestep the disconcerting ideas of who is to blame for the conditions, i see another truer image in this article.

What I see is a governor, the highest elected official of the state, exercising the voice everyone would agree with: martial law is not an option.

Then we see the federal government make her decision by doing nothing until there was no other option.

Certainly it was nothing more than a power struggle that cost American lifes. Of course you have to remember, this is GWB's second term.



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 01:56 PM
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I agree with djohnsto77.

The local government failed.

The state government failed.

The federal government failed.

The system that was put into place to aid in situations like these failed.



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 02:08 PM
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Total failure at all levels.


Originally posted by elderban
The system that was put into place to aid in situations like these failed.


Incredible isn't it?
Where did all that money go?

I hope all involved are held accountable for their (in)actions.
.



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 02:16 PM
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Has anyone else wonder about banks? Could people even rob banks?



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 02:34 PM
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Originally posted by Valhall
What a crock of B.S.

THURSDAY is when Blanco made her "demand" for 40,000 Natl Guard troops...



Valhall, Thats Thursday Sept. 1st

I believe the WaPo article is refering to the Friday before the hurricane hit as it reads pre-evacuation.



Bush administration sent her a proposed legal memorandum asking her to request a federal takeover of the evacuation of New Orleans,


Blanco making demands for troops is a red herring when she will not federalize those same troops so that centralized command could make sense of situation on the ground, take control of law enforcement, which she abjectly failed to do slowing the rescue effort.

She is the one playing political games with peoples lives.



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 03:11 PM
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Who knows what deals are going on in the back rooms of our government? Are payoffs being made, and someone volunteering, or are people being paid off to set-up someone to be the scape-goat?

I just think it would be too convenient to have one person put on display so the entire world could look and say, 'Ah ha! It was their fault!'



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 04:09 PM
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Someone on the news said it best, It was a black community run by blacks and it failed.



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 04:10 PM
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Originally posted by Rikimaru
Someone on the news said it best, It was a black community run by blacks and it failed.


What do you mean by that?



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by Rikimaru
Someone on the news said it best, It was a black community run by blacks and it failed.


Who is "Someone?"

And what was that statement supposed to mean, exactly?

[edit on 9/4/2005 by CyberKat]



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 05:56 PM
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A Timeline of Certain Events




Saturday, August 27

10:00am, The first evacuation is called. Residents of Grande Isle, Louisiana's only inhabited barrier island are urged to flee.

11:00am, More evacuations ---voluntary and mandatory--- follow in five other low lying parishes outside New Orleans. In the city Mayor C. Ray Nagin tells residents to get ready - but he stops short of ordering evacuation.

Says Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco "It does not bode well for southeastern Louisiana."

1:00pm, Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour declares a state of emergency. His emergency management director tells coastal residents not to wait for official evacuation orders.

8:00pm, President Bush monitoring Katrina, while vacationing in Texas declares state of emergency in Louisiana.

National Hurricane Center,Max Mayfield later calls Mayor Ray Nagin to urge mandatory evacuations.


Sunday, August 28th,

8:00am, Ten last resort shelters open, including the Superdome, for an estimated 100,000 New Orleans residents who cannot flee. People begin checking in immediately and are told to bring food, water and medicine for three to five days.

10:30am, Mayor Nagin orders mandatory evacuation of New Orleans 485,000 residents after a personal appeal from President Bush. Hotels are exempted because, with all flights canceled, tourists had no way out.

11:00pm, Interstate 10 is gridlocked. President Bush expands the state of emergency to include Mississippi.


Monday, August 29th

6:10am, Power fails at the Superdome --- cutting off air conditioning and all but emergency lights.

8:00am, Vicious winds tear two holes in the superdome roof.

9:30am, The first breach is reported in one of the massive levees that shield New Orleans from the surrounding water.

First reports of homes flooded to ceilings.

4:00pm, Louisiana Gov. Blanco says as many as 20 buildings collapsed in New Orleans, with 40,000 homes flooded in one eastern parish and scores of people awaiting rescue on their roofs.

Up to 20 feet of standing water is reported on the city's east side. Emergency officials are unable to reach the hardest hit areas to save survivors or fully assess damage.

6:30pm, Another levee ruptures, this time along the vital 17th street canal, priming the city for horrifying floods.

Looting begins across the city.

9:00pm, At the Superdome, toilets at the Superdome begin to fail due to lost water pressure. Trash bins overflow and anxious residents are refused exit due to safety concerns.

11:00pm, Power outages now impact over 1 million people.

Tuesday, August 30th,

7:00am, Flood water continues rushing into New Orleans, and Army Corps of Engineers said the breach in the 17th street canal likely widened overnight. Most of the pumps remain powerless, unable to drain the rising tide.

9:00am, Water continues to rise, bodies seen floating.

Noon, In New Orleans, looting spreads, often in plain view of police and National Guard troops.

4:30pm, Gov. Blanco says all of New Orleans must be evacuated, including hotels, the Superdome and other shelters, as the danger of rising waters becomes clearer. Stragglers and sick people evacuated from hospitals drive the Superdome population to between 15,000 and 20,000.

11:00pm, As water continues to rise, Blanco announces the city will be vacated with-in two days.

Wednesday, August 31st,

8:00am, Mayor Nagin says the rising flood will render New Orleans unihabitable for months and says decomposing bodies will eventually create serious disease problems.

Looters and gangs become more visable as police focus on search and rescue operations. Guns and food, especially, are cleaned out of stores.

8:30pm, Nagin orders 1500 police to leave their search and rescue missions and return to the streets to stop the looting.

10:00pm, The first buses leave the Superdome, bound for Houston.

Thursday, September 1st,

8:30am, A report of shots fired at a military helicopter prompts rescuers to stop airlifting the sick out of the Superdome, meanwhile as arson fires break out at the arena, the National Guard continues evacuating the healthy by bus.

10:30am, Chaos and dispair rise at the New Orleans Convention Center, where thousands of refugees, stranded for days filth and unburied corpses, wait for help.

11:30am, Sniper shoot at helicoptors attempting to evacuate patients from hospital roofs.


Trail of a Killer


We have a Mayor who ignored pleas from the President and the National Hurricane Center until it was to late to do a full evacuation.

A Governor who knew Tuesday that it was dangerous to let residents stay in NOLA, but to this day refuses to federalize the LNG contributing to a lawless situation that slowed the evacuation because of a leadership vacuum.

A Governor who refused to provide leadership to the LNG whom she and she alone commanded, when looting broke out, surely causing many unnecessary deaths.

A Governor who is now more or less blaming her lack of leadership ability on the national government which tried to give early warning.

A Governor who now seems to be hiding from the media spotlight while water carriers for the democratic party spin the Katrina response as one of national government failure.


The Louisiana Hurricane plan;

Let others do it, thoroughly wring hands.



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 06:14 PM
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We have a Mayor who ignored pleas from the President and the National Hurricane Center until it was to late to do a full evacuation.


Are you reading the same timeline of events as I am? A mandatory evacuation was called into effect after pleas from President Bush and from the Hurricane Center. It wasn't until late on Saturday that a state of emergency was called and the urge for evacuations by the National Hurricane Center. Then Sunday morning is when the mandatory evacuations came.

Nice try. Your partisan garbage smells like horse*puckey*. A #load of people made mistakes, it doesn't matter what #ing party they belong to.

Mod Edit: Deleted profanity

[edit on 9/5/05 by FredT]



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 06:31 PM
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Jahmuhn my points are not partisan and lets talk of just whom and when Katrina response was in fact politicized in another thread.

Mayfields warning Saturday Evening

Nagins evac order Sunday at 10:30am

How many could have evacuated in that 12 hour or better period, how many more supplies could have been positioned at the facilities.

These are legitimate questions.

Can the cussing!



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 06:33 PM
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That's what censors are for Pheonix. I guess it never crossed your mind that people actually sleep during the night. PTS is for politics.



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 06:37 PM
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Phoenix...

Could you explain this...?

Dated Aug. 27th.


BATON ROUGE-Today Governor Kathleen Babineaux Blanco forwarded a letter to President Bush requesting that he declare an emergency for the State of Louisiana due to Hurricane Katrina. The full text of the letter follows:



The full request can be found here.
www.bayoubuzz.com...



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 07:02 PM
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Originally posted by Joseph Knecht
Phoenix...

Could you explain this...?

Dated Aug. 27th.


BATON ROUGE-Today Governor Kathleen Babineaux Blanco forwarded a letter to President Bush requesting that he declare an emergency for the State of Louisiana due to Hurricane Katrina. The full text of the letter follows:



The full request can be found here.
www.bayoubuzz.com...


Saturday, August 27th


8:00pm, President Bush monitoring Katrina, while vacationing in Texas declares state of emergency in Louisiana.


State of emergency was declared as requested - however Blanco never federalized her National Guard Units so the command authority stayed with Blanco which after all seems to be the main point - eh.


The disaster declaration by Bush allowed FEMA operations to commence.

Security is/was Blaco's responsibility, that lack hampered and still hampers relief efforts.

Bush nor any other national authority can/could not legally order the LNG who had the initial presence in NOLA to do any kind of law enforcement or police action. Only Gov. Blanco could do so.

Why can't people understand that fact.

[edit on 4-9-2005 by Phoenix]



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 07:14 PM
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From the National Guard's Website:


During peacetime each state National Guard answers to the leadership in the 50 states, three territories and the District of Columbia. During national emergencies, however, the President reserves the right to mobilize the National Guard, putting them in federal duty status. While federalized, the units answer to the Combatant Commander of the theatre in which they are operating and, ultimately, to the President.



www.arng.army.mil...

How hard is that to understand... eh?



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 07:25 PM
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On Sunday:
New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson offered Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco help from his state's National Guard last Sunday, the day before Hurricane Katrina hit Louisiana. Blanco accepted, but paperwork needed to get the troops en route didn't come from Washington until late Thursday.

news.yahoo.com...

That would be Blanco's fault...right?




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