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Red Cross Not Allowed Into NOLA

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posted on Sep, 3 2005 @ 09:44 AM
If anyone was wondering why no relief was available in New Orleans by the Red Cross unlike in other hurricane aftermaths. Marty Evans of the red Cross answered on Larry King show last night.

KING: We're back.

Joining us now in Washington is Marty Evans, the President and CEO of the American Red Cross. She traveled with the president today. The Red Cross is not in New Orleans, why?

MARTY EVANS, RED CROSS PRESIDENT AND CEO: Well, Larry, when the storm came our goal was prior to landfall to support the evacuation. It was unsafe to be in the city. We were asked by the city not to be there and the Superdome was made a shelter of last resorts and, quite frankly in retrospect, it was a good idea because otherwise those people would have had no shelter at all.

We have our shelters north of the city. We're prepared as soon as they can be evacuated, we're prepared to receive them in Texas, in other states, but it was not safe to be in the city and it's not been safe to go back into the city. They were also concerned that if we located, relocated back into the city people wouldn't leave and they've got to leave.

KING: Marty, everyone looks at themselves when they're working in some kind of tragedy. Is the Red Cross examining itself saying could we have done more?

EVANS: Larry, we're always looking at that and, you know, in this particular case it's the largest disaster we have ever done in the history, 125 years of the Red Cross and we are determined to do more and more and, in fact, we are.

We're sheltering just under 100,000 people right now. We're gearing up to shelter even more people. We have people sheltered in nine different states, 275 locations, so we will continuously look at what we're doing, see if we can improve it.

And, the other thing I would say is that we're breaking new ground. We're setting up new systems and processes that get rid of the bureaucracy and make it easier for people.

KING: Reverend Jesse Jackson last night was in New Orleans. Tonight he is in Baton Rouge. When you were critical last night, Jesse, some in the administration followed by saying this is not a time for criticism. That may be later but not now. How do you respond?

REV. JESSE JACKSON, RAINBOW-PUSH COALITION: Well, that's ridiculous. I mean the Red Cross' absence in New Orleans, the high point of the crisis is a disaster. It is a sin. We had no real plan for rescue and relief and relocation.

Last night we went into New Orleans to get -- with ten busses to take out 450 students from Xavier who had been on the bridge for three days and the painful part was we had to leave people who -- the human chain around the busses because they had been there four days and no plan to rescue them.

And then today we went back into New Orleans again on I-10 the causeway and there were like 6,000 people with seven busses. No bus had been there today and wonder why because across the street were 150 empty busses that had no place to take them, so no plan for rescue or for relocation. More people may die from lack of rescue and lack of food and water than from the flood itself. The people have not been very well served.

KING: Marty, how would you respond?

EVANS: Well, Larry, we were asked, directed by the National Guard and the city and the state emergency management not to go into New Orleans because it was not safe. We are not a search and rescue organization. We provide shelter and basic support and so we were depending, we are depending on the state and the agencies to get people to our shelters in safe places.

There you have it right from the horse's mouth so to speak.

That National Guard Marty kept refering to was the Louisiana National Guard wholly controlled by Gov. Blanco for the majority of this emergency who abjectly failed to provide leadership.

Notice also Marty includes the state and local Emergency Management agencies for not allowing in aid.

One can certainly infer that the local and state government knew from the very begining that NOLA was no longer under civil control by its refusal to let Red Cross enter NOLA and failed to take the steps required to regain control all the while knowing federal authorities would take the heat rather than themselves.

Hopefully more news of the whimpering Govenorettes inaction will come out putting an end to the MSM race- bait fest now going on.

CNN Transcript, Larry King Live, Sept 2nd

Now if we can only find out when the LNG was federalized if at all, we can fairly judge the national response and leadership in this crisis.

Until that question is answered the Bush bash fest in regards Katrina is very premature and quite counter-productive.

[edit on 3-9-2005 by Phoenix]

posted on Sep, 3 2005 @ 09:51 AM

Originally posted by Phoenix

That National Guard Marty kept refering to was the Louisiana National Guard wholly controlled by Gov. Blanco for the majority of this emergency who abjectly failed to provide leadership.

[edit on 3-9-2005 by Phoenix]

I have lots and lots of bad things I would like to say about Blanco. I even have a number of well placed bad names I would like to apply to her. This is a moment of rare self-control for me.

BUT! I feel it passing now. When that butterbeaned, bigmouth, bitch got on the air Friday morning - just hours after Nagin ratted her out, and she started demanding troops and then started this "and you looters better beware they're coming in locked and loaded and more than willing to take you out"....that was it. Drag her out back and whip her.

Get a clue woman, no National Guard soldier is ever going to willingly shoot a fellow citizen. Get a clue slut, no National Guard soldier is going to go into NO and shoot a black kid with a new pair of Reeboks. Now, will they drop you if you shoot at them? You bet. But they're not in there to save your "stuff". Get a clue idiot! - who the heck are you talking to? The entire city has no electricity. Unless the looters were able to rig one of those stolen big screens to a battery bank - THEY CAN'T HEAR YOU! Which proves it was all for show, doesn't it?

[edit on 9-3-2005 by Valhall]

posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 07:56 PM
Deadly Bureaucracy

I'm not going to let FEMA off the hook easily. If they called the governor and she didn't get back to them, shrugging and heading off to the bowling alley for some beer and chili fries is not the proper response.

Call back, and keep freakin' calling. And if no one responds, then go there and find out why.

This is a matter of life and death, not some dumb-ass game of phone tag.

As more information comes out of NOLA, the mayor and governor are looking worse and worse, and I suspect the people they have let down will square things up with them eventually.

We can expect Congress to look into this, and we can expect quite a few personnel changes as more information on how this travesty unfolded comes to light.

Hopefully, we will see some much-needed clarification on the roles all levels of government and hopefully see the roles and relationships of all the agencies straightened out in preparation for the next major disaster, which will be here much sooner than we may think.

It would be a crying shame if nobody learned from this.

posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 08:19 PM

Originally posted by Majic

I'm not going to let FEMA off the hook easily.

Here´s another FEMA for you:

Chicago Tribune: Navy ship nearby underused

September 4, 2005

While federal and state emergency planners scramble to get more military relief to Gulf Coast communities stricken by Hurricane Katrina, a massive naval goodwill station has been cruising offshore, underused and waiting for a larger role in the effort.

The USS Bataan, a 844-foot ship designed to dispatch Marines in amphibious assaults, has helicopters, doctors, hospital beds, food and water. It also can make its own water, up to 100,000 gallons a day. And it just happened to be in the Gulf of Mexico when Katrina came roaring ashore. The Bataan rode out the storm and then followed it toward shore, awaiting relief orders. Helicopter pilots flying from its deck were some of the first to begin plucking stranded New Orleans residents.

But now the Bataan's hospital facilities, including six operating rooms and beds for 600 patients, are empty. A good share of its 1,200 sailors could also go ashore to help with the relief effort, but they haven't been asked. The Bataan has been in the stricken region the longest of any military unit, but federal authorities have yet to fully utilize the ship.

Captain ready, waiting

The role in the relief effort of the sizable medical staff on board the Bataan was not up to the Navy, but to FEMA officials directing the overall effort. That agency has been criticized sharply for failing to respond quickly enough.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 11:28 PM

Originally posted by Majic
It would be a crying shame if nobody learned from this.

This is a clear case of the ‘fish stinks from the tail-up’

This is not a scenario LA or NO should have been unfamiliar with as a very real possible disaster, hell, they could of opened National Geographic and read all about this last year!

2004 Archive (look familiar!)

The ‘state’ has a crystal clear responsibility to be primary guide to maintain, develop, study, revise and implement natural disaster plans. Such as…. (few of many):

Informaiton on Hurricane Evacuation Studies Guideline

LA, April 2005 Operations Law

LA Disaster Studies

Moreover, what should have been learned just a year prior form Ivan, what was the plan then????

NAGIN: Well, we have approximately 100,000 residents that pretty much depend upon public transportation to get around. So, when we made the call to evacuate the city, they really didn't have that option of leaving.

So, we kind of prepped them and encouraged them to look at more of a vertical evacuation, if you will, make sure that they have access to a home or a building that at least has a second floor, just in case we have, you know, some flooding that we can't control. The second thing we have been telling them is to make sure they're stocked up on supplies and their medicine, and whatever else they would need, water and what have you, to kind of weather the storm and to hunker down and stay off the streets.

CNN Transcript, Threat of Ivan 2004

To make it worse prior to Katrina:

Nagin said late Saturday that he's having his legal staff look into whether he can order a mandatory evacuation of the city, a step he's been hesitant to do because of potential liability on the part of the city for closing hotels and other businesses.
The Times-Picayune (NO) Sunday Aug 28, 2005 edition

What did the good people of NO receive from a city government which knew in advance the possibly 100K-200K persons may not/will not be able to evacuate? What did all the studies, enacted procedures; tax dollars and past experience of elected leaders get the people of the great state of Louisiana and city of New Orleans? This:

posted on Sep, 5 2005 @ 11:37 AM
Red Cross Causing Anger

However, some of the refugees and those who have helped them are frustrated with the Red Cross and its intractable bureaucracy, its tendency to look to the rule book before taking a step, whether it be registering evacuees for shelters and getting help from sorely needed volunteers.

Also, the Red Cross-mandated migrating of evacuees from small shelters to large is ripping some from the small venues where they feel safe to much larger ones where people are placed hundreds to a room with no privacy and a shortage of bathrooms.

Leann Murphy, CEO of the American Red Cross of Central Louisiana, said her agency is in "crisis mode," they're doing the best they can and that she understands the frustrations of evacuees and volunteers alike.

Just walk in the Red Cross' command central on Jackson Street, and one encounters a house almost mad: volunteers dodging each other, cellular phones' different tones sing, a closed door for a much-needed private moment.

But the enormity of the crisis, the influx of refugees (on Saturday the number at approved Red Cross shelters in Central Louisiana was 6,000, with thousands more staying elsewhere), doesn't seem to bring a change in Red Cross procedures.

"The Red Cross, they are ridiculous," said Tim Murry, a manager at Alexandria's Holiday Inn Convention Center, where 100 to 200 evacuees have lived since Katrina's landfall.

The hotel, like many other places with no Red Cross assistance, has sheltered and fed the southeastern Louisiana residents, or former residents, since they arrived: some yesterday, some a week ago.

Murry said he and Raj Patel, whose family owns the inn, on Friday tried to get the temporary tenants registered with the Red Cross but were met with resistance because of the emergency agency's steadfast adherence to its rules.

Before registering, the hotel would have to demand that evacuees leave, then they'd have to find a registration center and fill out a form supplied by a certified Red Cross volunteer, Murry said.

As a compromise, Murry and Patel offered to bring registration forms to the hotel and have evacuees fill them out there to keep their tenants, many of whom have not a buck for gasoline, off the road.

And, they said, the Alexandria Riverfront Center is connected to the Holiday Inn, just steps away.

The Riverfront is one of four big Red Cross shelters in Rapides Parish that continues to take on evacuees; two busloads of New Orleans evacuees arrived Friday night.

But those staying at the Holiday Inn, where in banquet rooms they've made makeshift beds out of chairs, couldn't walk up stairs and register, Murry said.

"I just said screw it. I'm keeping them," Patel said. "The important thing is that they register with FEMA."

The Red Cross also has a policy that they will not go into areas that are about to be hit by a hurricane higher than Cat 2, which is why they weren't in NOLA before the storm.

posted on Sep, 7 2005 @ 08:41 PM
An update today from an interview of Fox reporter Major Garrett on the Hugh Hewitt radio show,

HH: Joined now by Major Garrett, correspondent for the Fox News Channel, as well as author of The Enduring Revolution, a best seller earlier this year. We talked about that. Major Garrett, welcome back to the Hugh Hewitt Show.

MG: Hugh, always a pleasure. Thanks for having me.

HH: You just broke a pretty big story. I was watching up on the corner television in my studio, and it's headlined that the Red Cross was blocked from delivering supplies to the Superdome, Major Garrett. Tell us what you found out.

MG: Well, the Red Cross, Hugh, had pre-positioned a literal vanguard of trucks with water, food, blankets and hygiene items. They're not really big into medical response items, but those are the three biggies that we saw people at the New Orleans Superdom, and the convention center, needing most accutely. And all of us in America, I think, reasonably asked ourselves, geez. You know, I watch hurricanes all the time. And I see correspondents standing among rubble and refugees and evacuaees. But I always either see that Red Cross or Salvation Army truck nearby. Why don't I see that?

HH: And the answer is?

MG: The answer is the Louisiana Department of Homeland Security, that is the state agency responsible for that state's homeland security, told the Red Cross explicitly, you cannot come.

HH: Now Major Garrett, on what day did they block the delivery? Do you know specifically?

MG: I am told by the Red Cross, immediately after the storm passed.

HH: Okay, so that would be on Monday afternoon.

MG: That would have been Monday or Tuesday. The exact time, the hour, I don't have. But clearly, they had an evacuee situation at the Superdome, and of course, people gravitated to the convention center on an ad hoc basis. They sort of invented that as another place to go, because they couldn't stand the conditions at the Superdome.

HH: Any doubt in the Red Cross' mind that they were ready to go, but they were blocked?

MG: No. Absolutely none. They are absolutely unequivocal on that point.

This story was originally broken on the Brit Hume show early this evening.

posted on Sep, 7 2005 @ 08:46 PM
This whole mess still doesn't add up for me....

Why would Blanco, Brown, Chertof & Bush all drag their feet??? Does any of this make sense. There HAS to be something else in play here.

EDIT: Actually "IMPEDE" may be a better word.

[edit on 7-9-2005 by loam]

posted on Sep, 7 2005 @ 08:48 PM
From the Red Cross's site,

Red Cross FAQ, Katrina

# Acess to New Orleans is controlled by the National Guard and local authorities and while we are in constant contact with them, we simply cannot enter New Orleans against their orders.

# The state Homeland Security Department had requested--and continues to request--that the American Red Cross not come back into New Orleans following the hurricane. Our presence would keep people from evacuating and encourage others to come into the city.

# The Red Cross has been meeting the needs of thousands of New Orleans residents in some 90 shelters throughout the state of Louisiana and elsewhere since before landfall. All told, the Red Cross is today operating 149 shelters for almost 93,000 residents.

# The Red Cross shares the nation’s anguish over the worsening situation inside the city. We will continue to work under the direction of the military, state and local authorities and to focus all our efforts on our lifesaving mission of feeding and sheltering.

# The Red Cross does not conduct search and rescue operations. We are an organization of civilian volunteers and cannot get relief aid into any location until the local authorities say it is safe and provide us with security and access.

# The original plan was to evacuate all the residents of New Orleans to safe places outside the city. With the hurricane bearing down, the city government decided to open a shelter of last resort in the Superdome downtown. We applaud this decision and believe it saved a significant number of lives.

# As the remaining people are evacuated from New Orleans, the most appropriate role for the Red Cross is to provide a safe place for people to stay and to see that their emergency needs are met. We are fully staffed and equipped to handle these individuals once they are evacuated.

posted on Sep, 7 2005 @ 09:07 PM
I am not American and therefore I cannot understand this abusrdity about what American organizations tried to gain entry but failed and was barred by whom.

Does one need a licence or be incorporated during a state of need, or be a resident of a state to feed and or save the destitute?

My God! What exactly was there to stop anyone from doing this? I have not yet found anything within the news which suggests that there was one door of entry for the media and individuals who entered New Orleans and another for charitable organizations.

As for the federal emergency relief, I am perplexed as to what exactly Bush's declaration of "state of emergency" prior to Katrina making landfall, meant. By the sounds of it, it was nothing but propaganda, after all, if the highest governmental agency in the land makes such a declaration, does it not mean they are mobilizing the necessary response and readying them for deployment? And what of 9/11 or if this had been a terrorist attack, would the federal government wait for the city, then state departments to invite them in? I highly doubt it.

[edit on 9/7/05 by SomewhereinBetween]

[edit on 9/7/05 by SomewhereinBetween]

posted on Sep, 7 2005 @ 10:05 PM
I think by declaring a state of emergency the President just allows State governments to ask the federal government for help. The next step is for the Governor of the State to declare a state of emergency then receive assistance from the Feds. The final step (something that hasn't happened in Louisiana) would be for the Governor to hand everything over to the Feds.

[edit on 9/7/2005 by djohnsto77]

posted on Sep, 9 2005 @ 10:34 PM

Originally posted by djohnsto77
I think by declaring a state of emergency the President just allows State governments to ask the federal government for help. The next step is for the Governor of the State to declare a state of emergency then receive assistance from the Feds.
In other words you are suggesting that the state governments cannot and may not make a request of the federal government unless authorized by the federal government.

Seems to me to be closed option.

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