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5,000 U.S. and Iraqi Troops Into Tall Afar - Big Battle Going On

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posted on Sep, 2 2005 @ 11:24 PM
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5,000 US and Iraqi troops has entered the Iraqi city of Tall Afar. It is the largest urban assault since Fallujah. Tall Afar has 250,000 people and is a key logistics hub for insurgents operating across northern Iraq.


Washington Post: 5,000 U.S. and Iraqi Troops Sweep Into City of Tall Afar

September 3, 2005


In the largest urban assault since the siege of Fallujah last November, more than 5,000 U.S. and Iraqi troops entered this northern city before dawn Friday. But the 45-minute firefight at day's end suggested that the insurgents who have controlled much of Tall Afar for almost a year would not relinquish it easily.

"We knew they were going to fight," said Pfc. Johnny Lara, a machine gunner from Blue Platoon, Eagle Troop, 2nd Squadron of the Army's 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment, who watched the clash with a reporter from a rooftop about 100 yards away. "Now it's a fight."

"This place is not a town, it's a cemetery. It is the lowest of the low in Iraq," Najim Abdullah Jabouri, a former general in Saddam Hussein's army, said in an interview the day before the operation began. "It needs to be cleaned out."

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

There is heavy fighting going on right now and there will be casualities
. 5,000 against how many insurgents?

Related ATS Threads:
Insurgents Rule Sunni Citadel Under US Noses

[edit on 2005/9/3 by Hellmutt]




posted on Sep, 2 2005 @ 11:37 PM
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Thats a real battle, going on, then! 5000 is alot of soldiers!

My suggestion is that Bushy jr. takes a break from the war, pull back some staff, to have them help out down south. And at the same time, show some proper goodwill and accept foreign aid. Amongst other accept that Iraq will send a force of goodwill to upheld law and order, and to stop these looters and plunderers from creating insurgency in his own country!



posted on Sep, 3 2005 @ 01:24 AM
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I think this has been planned for a while because there was an article on CNN from July that described people leaving the city out of fear of a Fullujah style attack.



CNN July 21

MOSUL, Iraq (CNN) -- As U.S. soldiers construct a wall around the troubled city of Tal Afar to keep out fighters and weapons, residents are fleeing in fear of an imminent military attack by American and Iraqi forces against insurgents still in the city, according to a senior military commander.

"It's not a mass exodus right now, but people have moved out of the city along kinship lines," Col. H.R. McMaster, commander of the Army's 3rd Armored Cavalry, which is responsible for security in Tal Afar, told CNN.

He said several thousand civilians have left in the past few months and more are continuing to leave, with most going to the countryside to stay with relatives. McMaster said the military was assessing civilian movements to be able to provide food, water and medical attention if it became needed.



posted on Sep, 3 2005 @ 02:03 AM
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Well, i agree we need to cancel these operations in iraq and possibly recall a portion to the states, we are fighting a war on two fronts now.



posted on Sep, 3 2005 @ 08:34 AM
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Not much being reported in media about the situation in Tal Afar/Tall Afar. "Largest urban assault since Fallujah" and no reports...
Most media just say "U.S., Iraq Troops Clash With Rebels Near Tal Afar" and nothing else. They say it`s too dangerous for anyone to reach the area. "Iraqi civilians reported fighting". And Tal Afar/Tall Afar is not the only insurgent stronghold. The stronghold reported in my other thread (Insurgents Rule Sunni Citadel Under US Noses is another town.


Billings Gazette: 20 police killed as fighting erupts in province north of Baghdad

September 3, 2005


Elsewhere, Iraqi civilians reported fighting late Friday in the outskirts of Tal Afar, an ethnically mixed insurgent stronghold 260 miles northwest of Baghdad.

Hospital officials said they were unsure of casualties because it was too dangerous for ambulances to reach the area. U.S. armored vehicles could be seen in the hills outside the city, the Iraqis said.

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posted on Sep, 3 2005 @ 08:45 AM
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So little or no news as of yet? i hope it bodes well for america



posted on Sep, 3 2005 @ 09:04 AM
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That's’ just ridiculous, we don't need to pull troops of Iraq to help out in NO. By the time they would get here, they wouldn't even be needed anymore.

Anyway, I think the media is a bit preoccupied with NO to mention this in full detail.



posted on Sep, 3 2005 @ 10:49 AM
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true...but what if another one comes?

Maybe they should do it right this time and have a reserve come back for the Storm Season....just started no?

Y'r Canadian friend,
Sven

PS: They should come home anyway



posted on Sep, 3 2005 @ 12:06 PM
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Yes we can do the what if’s all day but the truth is, storms of this magnitude have only hit the US three times in the last 70 years.



posted on Sep, 3 2005 @ 07:30 PM
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But the planet is not re~acting like it did 70 years ago...esp. with all the chemicals we have released into the air


So should plan for possible another storm may come? ....even if just a 2 cat. storm....but how many of those No. 2 have we had ? And again it's just the start of the season....let's be extra safe at least give the people down there the insurance


Y'r Canadian friend,
Sven



posted on Sep, 3 2005 @ 07:40 PM
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The possibly of a follow up Cat 2 storm hitting NO this season is very slim, and Cat 2 storms don't requite thousands of National Guard troops or massive evacuations after they hit.



[edit on 3-9-2005 by WestPoint23]



posted on Sep, 3 2005 @ 10:32 PM
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FoxNews now reports that officials said they hope to get ambulances into the area Sunday...


FOXNews: More Fighting in Northern, Central Iraq

September 03, 2005


To the north, fighting raged for a second day Saturday in the outskirts of Tal Afar, an ethnically mixed insurgent stronghold.

U.S. and Iraqi officials urged civilians to leave affected areas of the city, 260 miles northwest of Baghdad, a sign that the Americans were preparing a major assault.

Hospital officials said they were unsure of casualties because it was too dangerous for ambulances to reach the area. Officials said they hoped to get ambulances into the area Sunday.

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