we're going to help the people that need help

That has to be the most obvious statement of the year. A hurrican wipes out a State and the President says some days later 'we're going to help the people that need help'

I am not even American and I am getting worked up and angery at this idiot you call Commander and chief.

Our British Priminister hasn't really spoken out about it to us in the U.K yet. Why not? its like they are finding it hard to even acknowledge this is happening.



[edit on 2-9-2005 by 7th_Chakra]

We invaded Iraq, and immediately began treating the Iraqi better than any care our government is showing toward our own people. (I'm not slamming on the Iraqi's... I don't intend this to be a political statement)... But watching this leads me to believe that if there is a major problem somewhere else in our country like another really major earthquake in California, or one here in Missouri (we are just a few miles from the New Madrid fault, and it's destined to go any time), we are, essentially, on our own.

I don't mean that the government should bail everyone out, but there are people, who are infirmed, having been in a hospital in in New Orleans, who have been there five days with no relief, no food, no medicine... People are dying on the street, babies dying from dehydration, a quick loss of veneer of civilization, looting, rape, pillaging, and murder.

Where is FEMA??? Where is the government????

Interesting that people think that FEMA is the strong hand of the NWO. If this is all they've got, who has anything to fear from them... Something about finding one's butt in a well lit room full of mirrors!

Rant off... Well, almost... I don't care whether Bush and Company are Republicans, Democrats, or Monarchists ... This is proof in my mind that Dub is just a moron. Sorry to all my Republican friends, but it's not intended as a political statement... More a statement that simply calls 'em as I sees 'em.


Now. Rant off.

[edit on 2-9-2005 by sigung86]

It's sad to see that in the richest country in the world the goverment response has been so slow and little so far. If this wasnt a natural disaster, I'd bet that FEMA would have responded a hell of alot quicker, instigating vigorious matiral law to try and 'track down the people who did it..'; but alas, this is a natural disaster, nothing could have been done to prevent or predict it, prior to a few days beforehand, which is never enough time. I personally think that if the US Govt wanted to respond to this disaster quicker, they could have done so.

I don't mean that the government should bail everyone out

But is not the primary purpose of any government to ensure the safety and well-being of its own citizens? I think that the people in New Orleans have a reasonable expectation that, when faced with a disaster of this magnitude, their government, both state and federal, will assume command and do what needs to be done to ensure that the survivors are evacuated safely and given what treatment and resources they need.

From what I have seen and heard, precisely the opposite is taking place. Yes, the hurricane was a monumental disaster, but surely the immediate relief effort could have been handled better? Especially when you hear of people being told to go to one area for their safety and then told to either wait an indeterminate amount of time to be evacuated or told to go somewhere else.

The situation has gone from a terrible natural disaster to an absolute, surrealistic nightmare. I mean, it's like watching Dawn of the Dead or something.

What I am really wondering is if this is the kind of half-ass response we can expect during a national tragedy of this magnitude, then what would happen if something even worse happened, such as a terrorist planted nukes or bio-chemical attacks? I can't say I am very comfortable with our government's ability to handle catastrophes at this point after witnessing this.

TrueAmerican

It's not even a half response. That tells me this is being allowed to happen. The big catch phrase after 9/11 was "another 9/11", now you can add another to the list, "another New Orleans". People want to complain how the government is failing in this situation, well let me tell you they're not. The government controlled media is making sure that everybody in this country will see what horrors could happen to them if this were to take place in their neck of the woods. When the time comes everyone will remember this and will allow the government free reign over them just so it won't become "another New Orleans". It's fear tactics plain and simple. New Orleans is a guinea pig. Those citizens are being sacrificed for 'the greater good', or at least what 'they' perceive to be the greater good.

Peace

Of course the President visits on the day the military and relief finally arrives..see how things work around here

I do admit though, seeing troops and heavy military trucks finally arrive is a major relief.

The president has not choice but to agree with the failure, we have plenty of pictures and footage to tell all by itself he can never denied it, justify maybe.

It is not Disaster Efforts Failing, it is LEADERSHIP FAILING!

As SO said, they failed to prepare for the hit when they very well knew it was going to make land fall. Bush failed as our President, FEMA failed as the "emergency" "management" BILLIONS of $$$$ have been WASTED!

Lack of effort is not the issue, Australia, Canada and UN all offered to give assistance, BUSH SAID NO! Now he admits FAILURE, our president FAILED!




[edit on 2-9-2005 by ADVISOR]

[size=4]Five days on the world is in shock and awe looking at it's richest nation. Asking how can it be..?[/size]

How can it be that a nation preparing for mayor terrorist strikes is so badly prepared for an emergency?

How can it be that one of the best policed nations in the world let an emergency situation deteriorate into anarchy?

How can it be that so many citizens of the affected areas were unable to evacuate?

How can it be that no substantial army presence was deployed before, during or right after the disaster?

How can it be that there is no clear leader handling this disaster?

How can it be that it takes 5 days before the Commander in Chief visits the affected areas?

How can it be that looting is priority nr.1?

How can it be that the local police indulges in looting themselves as seen on T.V. Footage?

How can it be that victims are waiting for days in an urban environment before any form of help arrives?

How can it be that relief is still not arriving in amounts close to the quantities needed?

How can it be that people are still dying?

How can it be that the U.S.A. is unable to take care of it's own business?

Judging by the minimal response, it almost seems if the planet's most powerful army, the US armed forces, are far over-stretched by their efforts overseas. If so did Bush undermine his own nation's security by his actions? What would have happened if this was a terror attack? Homeland security, isn't that the main objective for the Commander in Chief? If he fails at that duty shouldn't he be sacked?

My country, The Netherlands, a nation largely below sea level and acquainted with the dangers of such a geography, has offered technical expertise among other means of relief such as delivering refined oil from our strategic reserves. A Royal Dutch Marine Fregat-class ship loaded with emergency relief supplies is heading towards the U.S. Coast, as are several Royal Dutch Airforce F16 fighter jets.


How can it be..?

My thoughts are with the abandoned people and all the others affected, may god help them in their hardships.

Hoaks


(EDIT: spelling)

[edit on 2-9-2005 by Hoaks]

Anyone notice how fast Boy George fessed up about federal disaster efforts failing but he still hasn't fessed up about the war effort failing. This is an opportunity for him to show all Americans that he is willing to shoulder blame. It's a big heapin' helpin' of elephant dung!!!!

Peace

Wow, Dr. Love, that's pretty heavy. Somehow I have a hard time believing that this in any way, shape or form has anything to do with NWO agenda. And I think it's important to realize that this is a nature created disaster, not a man made one. I am still speechless though at the response, as many other people are as well.

What we SHOULD have read in the news:

Pre-Hurricane) Federal authorities watching closely and preparing disaster teams for incoming storm. Shelters for up to 100,000 or more set up and awaiting refugees.

Day of hurricane) Most relief efforts moved into surrounding areas, prepared to move in once storm subsides.

Day after) Immediate relief teams feed hungry and evacuate those in need.

Two days after) Work continues to rescue stranded people and see to it that they have food and water. Helicopters and planes drop sealed, waterproof relief packages all over the area.

Three days after) Most people out of harms way, and armed bandits dealt with severely. Anyone shooting at rescue teams taken out. And yes I mean killed.
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Obviously, much more to it than that, but those are the basics. How could the government fail so miserably?

It most likely was natural and not man made, but just because weather control hasn't been revealed to us doesn't mean that the technology doesn't exist and isn't being used by truly evil factions. Besides that, as some have already mentioned, it could be just the taking advantage of something that fell in to 'their' lap. There's a goal and every situation that arises is used and manipulated in order for that goal to finally be met. It doesn't really matter in the end 'cause we're all in the same boat anyway.

Peace

Dr Love

That is a scary thought and to take in consideration that is the poor and mostly blck the one been targeted it make you wonder.

Originally posted by marg6043
Dr Love

That is a scary thought and to take in consideration that is the poor and mostly blck the one been targeted it make you wonder.

TARGETED?????

Are you suggesting that the powers to be intentionally directed this storm at Blacks???

shots

Marg said "poor and mostly black". It's a very astute observation if you ask me. Let's not twist in order to bait. The city of New Orleans was one of the most crime-ridden to begin with. The fuel for the fire was already there, all 'they' had to do was throw in the burning match.

Peace

Originally posted by Dr Love
shots

Marg said "poor and mostly black". It's a very astute observation if you ask me. Let's not twist in order to bait. The city of New Orleans was one of the most crime-ridden to begin with. The fuel for the fire was already there, all 'they' had to do was throw in the burning match.

Peace

I realize that is what she said, but she also said or implied they were the ones targeted not me. I simply replied to what she implied.

Why anyone on earth would even imply that individuals would be targeted is beyond me.

It is real easy for all of us to sit here and play Monday morning quarterbacks or as some others are doing by trying to blame this on the President which I feel is outright wrong. The Mayor of NO and the Governor of the state DECLARED a state of Emergency existed prior to the arrival of the storm and had the powers to mobilize the national guard at that time yet they did not do so. Why is that?

See what I am getting at even the state had the authority to mobilize their state agencies and they did not, so it is not all the administrations fault as many of you want to imply. Lets put the blame were it belongs not just the administration OK?

I just heard on BBC that perhaps up to 10,000 may be dead. So although the convoys are starting to come in, it may be too late for a lot of folks.

[edit on 2-9-2005 by nikelbee]

Very good point, shots, about the state not mobilizing, and the direction of blame on this. I think most Americans are just ashamed. I think we are ashamed that we are living in such a very great country, and yet those poor people are sitting there, starving, dying, and helpless, and we feel that more should have been done, and much faster. I know I feel guilty and sad bigtime over this, to watch this happen right here in our very own US of A. Our backyard. It hurts. And I am very sorry. Emabarrased, really.