Perhaps American will wake up and start looking realy hard at what is going on in our own government including both political parties and question why we are not ready.

If the government was not prepared to face a disaster like in the south, that means that we are not ready to face another mayor attack by terrorist either.

Fema and HLS has prove inadequate in the south.

People are sitting in from of their TVs and witnessing the death and desperate people screaming for help and this is after the storm.

I have never seen such much desperation on fellow American citizens before like the victims of the hurricane and help is not fast enough.

Taking in consideration that our government from this administration and past administrations never had a plan ready to make sure that oil was not interrupted in case of a natural disaster it tells how inadequate our government is.

Yes this enough to throw our nation into a frenzy and some problems can come from that.

It may not be a civil war but I tell you is going to be many Americans mad enough to start hearing their voices been heard and very loud too.

Originally posted by marg6043
If the government was not prepared to face a disaster like in the south, that means that we are not ready to face another mayor attack by terrorist either.

Very true... and this is worse than a terrorists attack. We actually knew this was coming. We didn't have just "intelligence reports", This thing was being tracked ever since it entered the Gulf. It's not like this storm snuck up on them. A hurrican is a slow moving storm. COuld have been possible to get thousands more out of harms way.

Originally posted by DarkHelmet
A hurrican is a slow moving storm. COuld have been possible to get thousands more out of harms way.

Right. With all the complaining and finger pointing that the mayor of New Orleans is making, is he fogetting about the hundreds of school buses that New Orleans schools have. Why didn't he use those to evacuate a few thousand of the more poor before the storm came in? I think the answer is the same for all that seem to be unprepared. No one anticipated that this was going to be the big one. That or they didn't want to believe it.

we knew it was coming hours at least before hand, bush was on vacation tho. it wasnt urgent enough till it actually hit? once it hit and the damage was done, we see it and are like omgwtf it actually did hit, and it actually was bad, whoda thought? then we start tryin to organize. while if we had just done it as soon as it turned into a cat. 3 or 4 then finally reaching 5 we could have prevented alot of # from happening, even if it made a radical turn to mexico we still would have been prepared. food and water waiting to be transported, nation guard ready to go, people ready to start recovery, those that were qualified to do so.

Originally posted by DarkHelmet
Very true... and this is worse than a terrorists attack. We actually knew this was coming. We didn't have just "intelligence reports", This thing was being tracked ever since it entered the Gulf. It's not like this storm snuck up on them. A hurrican is a slow moving storm. COuld have been possible to get thousands more out of harms way.

Trouble is the media and the Fed hypes all these tropical systems that threaten to make landfall, as if the end of the world is coming, then they fizzle out. Thus people become desensitized (cry wolf syndrome), and ignore future threats. They had less than 2 days to prepare to evacuate btw, and many left had no transportation or funds to do so.

Maybe next time they look harder at what can come from the sea?




[edit on 2-9-2005 by Regenmacher]

I just started a similar thread but more specific thread about John Titor and if he had any predictions about a weather catastrophe in the U.S. that would cause a fall in the economy.

I'm not totally sure if this whole hurricane katrina thing would cause a civil war, but one thing is for certain, it'll definitely cause a lot of problems for America's economy... (duh!)

I'm not saying it was Katrina that would stir up a potntial civil-war... I'm talking about the economic effects and what-not. Especially after so much oil was lost through the storm and through leakeage. Gas prices are in trouble, and the way our economy is already right now, it just seems like the whole #ry is falling apart.

I have good news about Martial Law.

When you see how a Cat 4 Hurricane can disrupt so much to where no gov agency is effective and you see goat herders in Iraq and Afghanistan living in the most deplorable conditions whipping the asses of the most technically advanced military on the planet....trust me. Dont worry about Martial Law (US military)

What ya need to worry about is the average day pissed off american, the 7-11 worker that does more work than most construction workers and gets paid less for it. The frustrated male that hasnt been laid in sometime.

I think this John Titor thing is a load of hooey.

When you take what he says from a Biblical perspective, you can see he's a fraud. I'm familiar with the multiple timelines theory...I used to watch Star Trek all the time.

The thing is, what will happen is going to happen. Period. (And let's not get into destiny vs. free will.)

I believe Bible prophecy. I see things taking that course.

The way I see it, other timelines only exist in the imagination, the gateway to them being the phrase "what if."

John Titor-
"It is a mistake to give anyone your unwavering belief...but you will find that out yourself in 2005."

John Titor-
"The conflict was not about taking and holding ground it was about order and rights. They were betting that people wanted security instead of freedom and they were wrong."


John Titor-
“Have you see the documentary on Waco? Just for argument's sake, what do you think would happen if information were discovered that confirmed the worst accusations made against the law enforcement officers there? Would you hope nothing?”
"If the federal forces learned anything from WACO it was to install more reliable suppressors on their automatic weapons and don't use flash grenades that leave shell casings after the fire."

John Titor
Q: Does the civil war start in such a way that those willing will have time to remove themselves to safer locations?
"Yes. You will be forced to ask yourself how many civil rights you will give up to feel safe."
Q: Will you readily be able to identify the enemy?
"They will be the ones arresting and holding people without due process."
“I would describe it as having a Waco type event every month that steadily gets worse.
"By 2008, I would say the civil conflict is pretty much at everyone's doorstep."
"On my world line in 2011, the United States is in the middle of a civil war that has dramatic effects on most of the other Western governments."
"Outright open fighting was common by then and I joined a shotgun infantry unit in 2011. I served with the "Fighting Diamondbacks" for about 4 years. "
"I would define it as a conflict where organized groups engage in maneuver and armed conflict."
”The conflict will consume everyone in the US by 2012…”

What is happening in New Orleans is more of a revolution {citizen vs Government} than a civil war{citizen vs. citizen}

What Im most concerned with is we are still early in the hurricane season, whats next?.. And how many more Natural disasters in the near future can the USA deal with. Hurricans, flood, earthquake, tsunami, Our whole western style of civilization is so fragile...We in The USA are like 1 or 2 disasters away from our country or way of life from bein totally destroyed......Revolution seems to have started....question is Will it spread




peace

Man.....don't believe titor folks...........sigh* he's just some no good false prophet, not even a prophet, a lunatic with a crazy imagination...

Don't let him corrupt you mind....thats all I'm saying, I don't want to argue...I'm just saying, if you dont agree with me..then fine.....but all I can say is only time can really tell....

In transcripts of Titor's interviews he talks about "confidence" in terms of arriving in the time you plan to visit. Apparently it's not very exact according to him.
Also when asked about the paradox of meeting up with yourself etc., he said he didn't have a problem with that, because of some kind of divergence in realities or worlds or similar - my interpretation of which is that he was saying: if he did something in our time frame it wouldn't necessarily have any impact or reality in his - when he returned there.
If this is the case - and he really was a time traveller - maybe the events that happened in his reality don't have any relevance or reality in ours.

Originally posted by Jeremiah25

"How would this particular event provoke this division?" In my opinion, it simply couldn't.

The you have not seen any outraged African Americans or spoken to them lately, have you?

No, I am not being racist here, but they seem to be the one group that are screaming the loudest about being targeted for genocide and believe that Louis Farrakhan is "speaking the gospel" to quote a few that I work with. They are also livid about the debit cards being discontinued and at the blatant racism of the government (again their words).

I think if there are any problems with things at the Astrodome (such as Rita) you very well may see something happen since that would "prove" they are being singled out somehow to be killed.

These same people also have said that there was no shooting at rescue workers because "my brothers and sisters are too tired and too hungry to be able to shoot at no one, the TV is lying"

So there ya go. Perfect set up to a civil war if I ever saw one

Disclaimer: I admit the media does spin things, but I do believe that rescue workers were being shot. I do not buy for a minute that people resorted to canabalism nor do I believe the levees were bombed, but most of my coworkers (who happen to be African American) do. As there are now several US cities in which African Americans are now the majority, things could get real ugly real quick.

Katrina was not about race, but it is being turned into a race issue faster than New Orleans flooded and it will have consequences, I am sure.

I am waiting for Jesse Jackson or Louis Farrakhan to call for a massive uprising then I am heading for the hills!

i dont know if this makes a difference or not but , according to what the thread creator wrote, this war was supposed to start with rising gases prices. well i live in rockford illinois which is about an 1hr northeast of chicago, definatly a popular city in illinois, and right when katirna hit our gas prices went up to like 3.18 and then by the end of the week they were already begining to lower. and as of now gas is like 2.39-2.42. which is expensive comparied to how it was 5 years ago but this is actually the lowest it has been in months.

and they also introduced this new fuel at all our gas stations called ethinol 85. which is only 1.99 a gallon. you just have to buy this special attatchment for your car to get it. but it can go on a majority of vehicles. so at least in my area and most of northern illinois the gas prices are lowering.



Kind Regards,
DigitalGrl

And now here comes Rita. CNN is allready reporting gas could hit $5 a gallon.

Hold on Texas, and good luck

has anyone seen organized groups engaged in combat ?

anyone ?

well there goes the gas prices again.