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Originally posted by TheIrishDuck
that´s answer is stupid.
Originally posted by TheIrishDuck
Even Woodward (in his book) accepted on june 13 of 1982 the Task Force had only three ships in good conditions, they were HERMES, YARMOUTH and EXETER.
Invincible may went down and took part of the Polaris Class
Regards.
Originally posted by 55heroes
The real history, in the secrets UK archives until end off the 21 century is:
R05 HMS-Invincible, lost in Falklands (Malvinas) 30/5/82
R06 HMS Illustrious, Laid down 7 Oct 1976, launched 14 Dec 1978, commissioned 20 June 1982. Sail to Falklands in June 1982.
R07 (ex Indomitable, ex Ark Royal) Laid down 14 Dec 1978, launched 4 June 1981 and commisioned in secret in August 1982, as HMS-Invincible
R08 Ark Royal, builld in secret in USA (Litton Ingalls, as possible) Laid down 1982, trials 10/1984, commissioned 1 Nov 1985.
Originally posted by Zaphod58
This is a list of all the ships built at Litton Ingalls shipyard from 1982 until May of 1984. They didn't have enough manpower, or enough time, or the resources to build a carrier for the Royal Navy. And even though I've said this a thousand times I'll say it again, I'll even put it in bold for you, just in case you missed it the other 1000 times. There is no way to build a carrier of ANY size in ANY shipyard and keep it secret! Between the hundreds of workers working on it, and the thousands of workers in the shipyard SOMEBODY would see it and say something about seeing it, especially when they realized we were buildng a carrier for a foreign navy. Sure we have build/overhauled a lot of foreign ships, but never a carrier, and nothing bigger than a cruiser or destroyer.
Oops. Might wanna add the build schedule.
USS Chandler (DDG 996), Guided Missile Destroyer - 1-25-82
Huthnance Vanguard I, L-780 Jackup Drilling Rig -1-26-82
Transworld 72, Semisubmersible Drilling Rig - 4-4-82
Chiles Yucatan, L-780 Jackup Drilling Rig - 4-9-82
Global Main Pass I, L-780 Jackup Drilling Rig - 5-17-82
Global Main Pass II, L-780 Jackup Drilling Rig - 6-30-82
Bonito Miss Kitty, L-780 Jackup Drilling Rig - 7-30-82
Transworld 73, Semisubmersible Drilling Rig - 8-20-82
Global Main Pass III, L-780 Jackup Drilling Rig - 9-17-82
Keyes 303, L-780 Jackup Drilling Rig -10-29-82
Huthnance Vanguard II, L-780 Jackup Drilling Rig - 11-12-82
USS Ticonderoga (CG 47), Aegis Guided Missile Cruiser - 12-10-82
Global Main Pass IV, L-780 Jackup Drilling Rig - 12-17-82
Bonito II, L-780 Jackup Drilling Rig - 1-28-83
USS Hayler (DD 997), Multimission Destroyer - 2-10-83
USS Yorktown (CG 48), Aegis Guided Missile Cruiser - 5-4-84
[edit on 7-9-2005 by Zaphod58]
Originally posted by JungleMike
Bravo Zulu, Zaphod!!
I was thinking how to find what you came up with! People can surmise all they want to, but, that is good, hard evidence.
I still say, you won't sink a carrier with an exocet and (being gracious) two or three free-fall bombs. You have to open the hull to the water, not to the air, and destroy watertight integrity. I don't believe that what was launched would do it nor what is claimed to have been launched. Do a search on the topic "Sinkex" and look at the pics of ships taking a beating. You will be surprised at how much it takes sometimes to put even a small vessel down.
[edit on 9/7/2005 by JungleMike]
Originally posted by TheIrishDuck
Your HMS Coventry sunk in 20 minutes with three bombs.
Invincible was sunk with an exocet an other three bombs.
And if you compare a really aircraftcarrier like one of the USS Navy, Invincible was a boat.
Easy to destroy, easy to build
Originally posted by devilwasp
Originally posted by TheIrishDuck
Your HMS Coventry sunk in 20 minutes with three bombs.
Invincible was sunk with an exocet an other three bombs.
Coventry was also a destroyer, much smaller.
You can fit 2 and a half destroyers into an invincible carrier.
She displaced like 4 and a half times the ammount that the coventry did.
One exocet aint going to THAT much damage, unless you strapped an ICBM on to it?
And if you compare a really aircraftcarrier like one of the USS Navy, Invincible was a boat.
Easy to destroy, easy to build
Invincible is tiny compared to the US navy ones but she is by no means a "boat" , she can hold her own quite well and has done in the past in many exercises.
Hell the invincible and hermes managed to destroy quite a few of your planes which where "superior" to our own.
I cant believe this I'm feeding the troll again...
[edit on 26/02/2005 by devilwasp]