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HMS Invincible sunk in 1982

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posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 02:35 PM
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Invincible r05 never had phalanx.


Your right, but a major crux of your argument is that they switched it for the Illustrious. And you can tell that due the positioning of the Phalanx weapon system.

Illustrious never had Phalanx either.




posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 02:36 PM
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Originally posted by devilwasp
You have still to comment on how they done 7 yeras work in 2 years...
I'm waiting for an answer..


What?



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 02:39 PM
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Originally posted by TheIrishDuck

Originally posted by devilwasp
You have still to comment on how they done 7 yeras work in 2 years...
I'm waiting for an answer..


What?



Illustrious was laid down in 1976 and in service in 1982. Ok, thats six years, but still, how did they get that done in two for the replacement Invincible?



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 02:40 PM
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Originally posted by stumason



Invincible r05 never had phalanx.


Your right, but a major crux of your argument is that they switched it for the Illustrious. And you can tell that due the positioning of the Phalanx weapon system.

Illustrious never had Phalanx either.




hahaha

Illustrious always had phalanx.
When "Lusty" was being as Invincible in Portsmouth changed the position of the phalanx (you can do it) and Illustrious was not finished at all on september. they (uk) finished it in 1983, so they could change the phalanx s position.



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 02:43 PM
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Originally posted by TheIrishDuck
What?


I will refer you to the statement you gave earlier...

Originally posted by TheIrishDuck
Illustrious was made in two years. 80 - 82.

Experiences? british engineers could go to USA and help americans to do.
Keep that in secret is easy.

This forum is about secrets?? well here is another.

But as I said...


Illustrios was not.
en.wikipedia.org...(R06)

She was was laid down at Swan Hunter on the River Tyne in 1976, and launched in 1981

So how do you do 6 years work in 2 years?



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 02:48 PM
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Originally posted by TheIrishDuck

Originally posted by stumason



Invincible r05 never had phalanx.


Your right, but a major crux of your argument is that they switched it for the Illustrious. And you can tell that due the positioning of the Phalanx weapon system.

Illustrious never had Phalanx either.




hahaha

Illustrious always had phalanx.
When "Lusty" was being as Invincible in Portsmouth changed the position of the phalanx (you can do it) and Illustrious was not finished at all on september. they (uk) finished it in 1983, so they could change the phalanx s position.




No, she didn't.

In fact, she didn't have Goalkeepers fitted until 1983. She never had Phalanx.



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 02:53 PM
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Originally posted by TheIrishDuck

hahaha

Illustrious always had phalanx.
When "Lusty" was being as Invincible in Portsmouth changed the position of the phalanx (you can do it) and Illustrious was not finished at all on september. they (uk) finished it in 1983, so they could change the phalanx s position.


Ok then...

en.wikipedia.org...(R06)

She was was laid down at Swan Hunter on the River Tyne in 1976, and launched in 1981.

www.royal-navy.mod.uk...

Illustrious or “Lusty” as she is fondly know to her crew was built at Swan Hunter on the Tyne and subsequently commissioned in her base port of Portsmouth in 1 982.



[edit on 26/02/2005 by devilwasp]



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 02:56 PM
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Originally posted by stumason

Originally posted by TheIrishDuck

Originally posted by devilwasp
You have still to comment on how they done 7 yeras work in 2 years...
I'm waiting for an answer..


What?



Illustrious was laid down in 1976 and in service in 1982. Ok, thats six years, but still, how did they get that done in two for the replacement Invincible?



The Iwo Jima class have the same tonnage of the Invincible.
However the Jima class are more difficult to build they have landing ships.

They were built in 2 years. During a war you can build a carrier shorter than 2 years.

Look:

IWO JIMA: Built by Puget Sound Navy Yard. Laid down 2 April 1959, launched 17 Sept 1960, commissioned 29 Aug 1961.



OKINAWA Built by Philadelphia Navy Yard. Laid down 1 April 1960, launched 14 Aug 1961, commissioned 14 April 1962.


GUADALCANAL Built by Philadelphia Navy Yard. Laid down 1 Sept 1961, launched 16 March 1963, commissioned 20 July 1963.


GUAM Built by Philadelphia Navy Yard. Laid down 15 Nov 1962, launched 22 Aug 1964, commissioned 16 Jan 1965.


TRIPOLI Built by Litton Ingalls. Laid down 15 June 1964, launched 31 July 1956, commissioned 6 Aug 1966.

here more:

www.hazegray.org...



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 03:00 PM
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Originally posted by TheIrishDuck

Originally posted by stumason

Originally posted by TheIrishDuck

Originally posted by devilwasp
You have still to comment on how they done 7 yeras work in 2 years...
I'm waiting for an answer..


What?



Illustrious was laid down in 1976 and in service in 1982. Ok, thats six years, but still, how did they get that done in two for the replacement Invincible?



The Iwo Jima class have the same tonnage of the Invincible.
However the Jima class are more difficult to build they have landing ships.

They were built in 2 years. During a war you can build a carrier shorter than 2 years.

Look:

IWO JIMA: Built by Puget Sound Navy Yard. Laid down 2 April 1959, launched 17 Sept 1960, commissioned 29 Aug 1961.



OKINAWA Built by Philadelphia Navy Yard. Laid down 1 April 1960, launched 14 Aug 1961, commissioned 14 April 1962.


GUADALCANAL Built by Philadelphia Navy Yard. Laid down 1 Sept 1961, launched 16 March 1963, commissioned 20 July 1963.


GUAM Built by Philadelphia Navy Yard. Laid down 15 Nov 1962, launched 22 Aug 1964, commissioned 16 Jan 1965.


TRIPOLI Built by Litton Ingalls. Laid down 15 June 1964, launched 31 July 1956, commissioned 6 Aug 1966.

here more:

www.hazegray.org...





Thats when you have the entire countries economy on a war footing. Which neither the US or the UK had in 1982.



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 03:01 PM
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I will say this one last time. I was in the war at time this "Supposedly"
happened. I lost a few of my squad and still visit "THE FALKLAND ISLANDS"
from time to time.

Im sure i would have heard about this ship sinking however i heard no such thing.

This is the biggest lump of rubbish ive ever heard. This is like some mad Argie propoganda thing going on. Maybe the Argies are trying to use ATS points to buy more weapons and invade again


It didnt happen so go and "get a life" and have some respect for all that perished back in 82.

THE FALKLAND ISLANDS (Not Malvinas) are British soil so stop being bitter, accept what people on here are saying to you and call it quits.



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 03:05 PM
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More...


INCHON Built by Ingalls. Laid down 8 April 1968, launched 24 May 1969, commissioned 20 June 1970.


When it says "launched" it is mean it´s ready for action haha.

only a year.

This the R07:

RO7 Built by Swan Hunter. Laid down 14 Dec 1978, launched 4 June 1981, trials 10/1984, commissioned 1 Nov 1985.


In 82 they have it finished.



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 03:06 PM
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Originally posted by stumason

Originally posted by TheIrishDuck

Originally posted by stumason

Originally posted by TheIrishDuck

Originally posted by devilwasp
You have still to comment on how they done 7 yeras work in 2 years...
I'm waiting for an answer..


What?



Illustrious was laid down in 1976 and in service in 1982. Ok, thats six years, but still, how did they get that done in two for the replacement Invincible?



The Iwo Jima class have the same tonnage of the Invincible.
However the Jima class are more difficult to build they have landing ships.

They were built in 2 years. During a war you can build a carrier shorter than 2 years.

Look:

IWO JIMA: Built by Puget Sound Navy Yard. Laid down 2 April 1959, launched 17 Sept 1960, commissioned 29 Aug 1961.



OKINAWA Built by Philadelphia Navy Yard. Laid down 1 April 1960, launched 14 Aug 1961, commissioned 14 April 1962.


GUADALCANAL Built by Philadelphia Navy Yard. Laid down 1 Sept 1961, launched 16 March 1963, commissioned 20 July 1963.


GUAM Built by Philadelphia Navy Yard. Laid down 15 Nov 1962, launched 22 Aug 1964, commissioned 16 Jan 1965.


TRIPOLI Built by Litton Ingalls. Laid down 15 June 1964, launched 31 July 1956, commissioned 6 Aug 1966.

here more:

www.hazegray.org...





Thats when you have the entire countries economy on a war footing. Which neither the US or the UK had in 1982.



oooo come on USA and UK managed the world.



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 03:09 PM
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Originally posted by TheIrishDuck
More...


INCHON Built by Ingalls. Laid down 8 April 1968, launched 24 May 1969, commissioned 20 June 1970.


When it says "launched" it is mean it´s ready for action haha.

only a year.

This the R07:

RO7 Built by Swan Hunter. Laid down 14 Dec 1978, launched 4 June 1981, trials 10/1984, commissioned 1 Nov 1985.


In 82 they have it finished.


en.wikipedia.org...(R07)
[qoute]
Her keel was laid by Swan Hunter at Wallsend on 7 December 1978. She was launched on 20 June 1981 sponsored by Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother and commissioned on 1 November 1985[/qoute]
When its launched, that means the shipyards have built it.
No guns, no planes, no people and NO sea trials.


Originally posted by TheIrishDuck
oooo come on USA and UK managed the world.

????

[edit on 26/02/2005 by devilwasp]



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 03:10 PM
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Originally posted by TheIrishDuck

Originally posted by stumason

Originally posted by TheIrishDuck

Originally posted by stumason

Originally posted by TheIrishDuck

Originally posted by devilwasp
You have still to comment on how they done 7 yeras work in 2 years...
I'm waiting for an answer..


What?



Illustrious was laid down in 1976 and in service in 1982. Ok, thats six years, but still, how did they get that done in two for the replacement Invincible?



The Iwo Jima class have the same tonnage of the Invincible.
However the Jima class are more difficult to build they have landing ships.

They were built in 2 years. During a war you can build a carrier shorter than 2 years.

Look:

IWO JIMA: Built by Puget Sound Navy Yard. Laid down 2 April 1959, launched 17 Sept 1960, commissioned 29 Aug 1961.



OKINAWA Built by Philadelphia Navy Yard. Laid down 1 April 1960, launched 14 Aug 1961, commissioned 14 April 1962.


GUADALCANAL Built by Philadelphia Navy Yard. Laid down 1 Sept 1961, launched 16 March 1963, commissioned 20 July 1963.


GUAM Built by Philadelphia Navy Yard. Laid down 15 Nov 1962, launched 22 Aug 1964, commissioned 16 Jan 1965.


TRIPOLI Built by Litton Ingalls. Laid down 15 June 1964, launched 31 July 1956, commissioned 6 Aug 1966.

here more:

www.hazegray.org...





Thats when you have the entire countries economy on a war footing. Which neither the US or the UK had in 1982.



oooo come on USA and UK managed the world.



NATO put the money in this case.



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 03:14 PM
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Originally posted by devilwasp

Originally posted by TheIrishDuck
More...


INCHON Built by Ingalls. Laid down 8 April 1968, launched 24 May 1969, commissioned 20 June 1970.


When it says "launched" it is mean it´s ready for action haha.

only a year.

This the R07:

RO7 Built by Swan Hunter. Laid down 14 Dec 1978, launched 4 June 1981, trials 10/1984, commissioned 1 Nov 1985.


In 82 they have it finished.


en.wikipedia.org...(R07)
[qoute]
Her keel was laid by Swan Hunter at Wallsend on 7 December 1978. She was launched on 20 June 1981 sponsored by Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother and commissioned on 1 November 1985[/qoute]
When its launched, that means the shipyards have built it.
No guns, no planes, no people and NO sea trials.


Originally posted by TheIrishDuck
oooo come on USA and UK managed the world.

????

[edit on 26/02/2005 by devilwasp]



The R07 at first was only for transport.



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 03:15 PM
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Originally posted by TheIrishDuck
NATO put the money in this case.

So now NATO is involved with the building of a "new" carrier.
Some one is grabbing for straws...



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 03:16 PM
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Originally posted by TheIrishDuck
The R07 at first was only for transport.

Transporting what?
They didnt even know if it worked or not!



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 03:18 PM
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Originally posted by devilwasp

Originally posted by TheIrishDuck
NATO put the money in this case.

So now NATO is involved with the building of a "new" carrier.
Some one is grabbing for straws...


Indeed DW, it's just like poor, old AthieX and his "Deutchnational" anti-polish/EU bollocks.....

Hey, it keeps me busy on a boring Sunday nightshift!



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 03:19 PM
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This from june 1982.

Illustrious r07 and Ark Royal r07 at the right.

"Lusty" went to the South Atlantic to meet with Hermes in the photos i showed you before (pages 3 or 4 i think)


At that moment the R07 is used only for transport.



posted on Sep, 4 2005 @ 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by stumason
Indeed DW, it's just like poor, old AthieX and his "Deutchnational" anti-polish/EU bollocks.....

Hey, it keeps me busy on a boring Sunday nightshift!

Lol, I dont know why I'm even awake, I got off a bus at 11 which I was stuck on for 12 hours with like 2 hours sleep, WTH is all I have to ask myself..



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