NEWS: Gas Expected to pass $4/Gallon Soon

If people come together and flip these companies off by letting them know we don't need their stinkin oil, I would find that to be the most beautiful karma...

That would be cool. But we need a completely different fuel source. There is not one thing in our economy that is not effected by oil or gas. I will name some weird things

Fruit = It has to be shipped which takes gas.
Bike = Made out of metal...the machines used to make it used oil to either run or lubricate them. Plus there is oil on the chain
Swimming Pool = Hey I might be stumped until you think about construction of it. The cars the construction workers drive over and the water filter system i am sure uses oil to lubricate the running parts.


that is just a sample. Basicaly Oil is the backbone of our economy. No Oil = no Economy. If anyone thinks they know of something that isn't effected by oil let me know and I will try to prove you wrong

[edit on 1-9-2005 by Timcouchfanclub]

Originally posted by Timcouchfanclub
Basicaly Oil is the backbone of our economy. No Oil = no Economy. If anyone thinks they know of something that isn't effected by oil let me know and I will try to prove you wrong

Thanks for bursting my bubble..

Construction workers can use alternative transportation, our pools could become like quarries no? Hit the water table and always have an abundance of fresh mineral water? What were the other things you said??
Before gas wasn't there coal? If they hadn't invented gas, what alternative source would they have come up with after coal?

Thanks Timcouchfanclub that is exactly what I was trying to say

I am not looking forward to my groceries going up. My two boys eat more than their Dad.

[edit on 1-9-2005 by mrsdudara]

Thanks for bursting my bubble.

Sorry, I didn't mean to rain on your parade. I was just trying to prove that it is much easier to talk about and think about screwing the oil companies when in reality WE allowed ourselves to become so dependent on the fuel that we can't operate without them. At least not in the near future. Maybe in 50-100years we will find something else but right now Oil is all we have.

Yes this was a WE problem not just the government or OPEC. We are the ones that created this monsterous demand.

Originally posted by Timcouchfanclub
Yes this was a WE problem not just the government or OPEC. We are the ones that created this monsterous demand.

Then it can be undone. It's like trying to replace old outdated machines in a factory without slowing down production and losing contracts because of it.

My step father is a plant manager, i'm just applying what he does in this kind of problem.

I look at this big picture as if we all were in a factory... Without disturbing the economy, slowly but surely we wean ourselves off this old and outdated resource that is becoming obsolete? that way we can wean ourselves onto the new resource(s) I hope resources so we don't make the mistake of becoming dependant on just one resource again.







[edit on 1-9-2005 by TrueLies]

I drive a full size Ford Bronco with a modified 302....yeah it sucks gas. The good thing is that I have only a 7 min drive to work and only put in $20 a week so the higher fuel costs don't effect me too much and when we drive long distances we use my wifes vehicle (minivan) which is much better on gas. I'm not saying that I don't care that fuel costs go up because I do. But like some had said let the fuel costs rise and I agree. At some point people will break and I'm not sure where this will happen but something will change and I look forward to it.

Gas prices at $4 is outrageous.


[edit on 1-9-2005 by asala]

The thing is, weren't the gas prices allready predicted to rise before Katrina? Katrina just made it more justified. And like mentioned before, oil companies are having record profits. What's the deal?

Now once Katrina is cleaned up and the gas flows again will the gas prices drop?

And lets not forget to push for alternatives. If we want out from under oils mighty grip then we have to search and find alternatives. I think they may have allready been discovered, they just need to be given credibility and pushed forward.

Troy

Originally posted by I See You
I drive a full size Ford Bronco with a modified 302....yeah it sucks gas.

I also drive a full size Bronco(1993) as stated in my earlier post. Mine is a 351 Windsor. This is my 3rd bronco and out of the three it gets the best mileage. My first was an 89' with a 302 & got about 13 miles to the gallon. My second was an 87' with a carborated 351' with hooker headers running dual exhaust straight pipe out the rear. Very fast, powerful and loud. But that truck got about 5 miles to the gallon. I had a Carter 650cfm carb on it adjusted to get the max power I could get. I moved out to Colorado and got rid of it fast. Great rock crawling truck but I wanted something more economical and environmentally friendly. But I still wanted a Bronco so I found a 93' with all the emissions on it and bought it. It's got the 351 Windsor and I get approximately 16 to 18 miles to the gallon highway with a 30 gallon tank. Unfortunately I cannot afford to drive it to work so me and my wife are sharing her Cavalier which gets about 26 miles to the gallon highway.

I am currently looking into hybrid and possibly all electric as well as other fuels like diesel. With a diesel you can use vegetable oil as fuel with little modification to the engine. Really you just need to install a second gas tank that is heated using your coolant lines. You only need that during the winter so you can heat the oil up for a better consistency. If you do not it will be to thick and gunk up the engine.

Basically you drive for about 3 to 5 miles, then switch to the vegetable tank and when you have about 3 to 5 miles left to you destination you switch back to regular diesel. You switch back so you flush out all the vegetable oil so it does not clog your lines. If you are savvy enough you can use used oil from a fast food restaurant, but you will need to clean it up.

There are many other possibilities out there. It just takes a few bucks and some time. But in the end it shure is worth it.

Here are a couple of links about the diesels.

journeytoforever.org...
www.dancingrabbit.org...
www.dancingrabbit.org...

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[edit on 1-9-2005 by jmilici]

Well folks, I have traded my Jeep to the misses for her Kia because she drives less than half the distance I do and only 2 to 3 days a week wheras I go 5 days. She loves SUVs and I just want a ride to work so I guess this will help us get through it.

The Escort had a flat on the way home and its pretty much a junker anyway. I just kept it because I had less than 500 in it by the time I had a salvaged engine put in it. The front tires are just tires in the sense they are round and made of rubber. I have picked up two more used ones but haven't had time to get em mounted so I guess I will drive this Kia thing for now.

I filled it up for 16 bucks verses 40 for the Jeep so I can handle that well. I just don't think my major weekly purchase should be fuel but it seems it always is. I got it for 3.05 / gal this morning from a locally owned place. I always get everything I can there. The guy just makes a nice living and doesn't try to get rich off his customers. We need more like him running businesses.