thanks Dulcimer....

Yeh, thats the map

helen

The map shows Constantinople(Istanbul) in the centre.......Babylon is on the bottom.
The CROSS is erected on St Sophia cathedral(at the moment on top is theTurkish flag)...it was changed into a museum because the icons of Christ on the ceiling could not be painted over....The ceiling of the St Sophia is a round dome signifying the heavens (Kingdom of God)...

The map also FITS IN with REVELATION ....the spread of the Gospel before the Antichrist comes to power....
Only for a short while the world will experience some good.....as Revelation says .....only for a short time.
quote///
The Gospel will be preached throughout the world 'for a witness unto all nations' (Matt.24,14; Mark 13,10).

The first sorrows will be in the form of calamities: 'famines, pestilences and earthquakes in divers places', fearful sights and great signs from heaven (Matt.24,7-8; Mark, 13,8; Luke 21,11).

Many false prophets will appear and deceive many (Matt.24,11).

last sign before the judgement....
The sign of the Son of man (the Cross) will appear in the heavens and then will take place the Second Coming of Christ with power and great glory. Angels will be sent and shall gather the elect together 'from the four winds' (Matt.24,30-31; Mark 13,26-27, Luke 21,27).
as it is pictured in the map.

I 'll be getting more info later....

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helen

Great stuff Helen. Thanks for the post. Interesting!

Pretty interesting, but it seems...off.

Originally posted by ShakyaHeir
I mean the New Testament was written how many hundreds of years after Jesus died?

Not likely. One of the best evidences that we have for the New Testament being written during the early first century is the fact that the destruction of Jerusalem isn't brought up in any of the books. We know that Jerusalem was destroyed by the Romans at about 70 AD and yet none of the gospels which were written by Jews mention this fact. This clearly dates the New Testament to a time before 70 AD. The only exception to this is the book of Revelation. It was probably written after Jerusalem was sacked.

Think about the recent events in New Orleans but make it much worse. Let's say the Romans came and burned the city to the ground. (How rude) Would you expect a letter written by a person from New Orleans to another person from the same city to glaze over this point of history and speak as if the city still existed? I doubt that you will find this to be true. In fact in the future you would probably be able to date a document by noting if the devastation in New Orleans is mentioned.

For everybody who is interested, in what is actually written on this map, I attempted to translate the phrases.





-War cry is one
-Russia – North
-Beginning of troublesome events, terrible century, sorrow for 3 years
-Bulgaria, Wallachia, Servia, Macedonia, Slavonia, Dalmatia (region of Croatia), Aulon (region of south Albania)
- Thessaly (mainland region of Greece, just north of Athens)
- Spirit of Revolution Ipirus (Region of South Albania, and northwest Greece)
- sorrow towards (probably reffering towards Thessaly, because of the arrow pointing there)
- Movement of Emperor trouble and cries!
- Trinity
- Disturbing
- very sharp sword of chastisement
- Western Europe (4) the nations and crowds followers of the afternoons
- (onwards) you sail and sail backwards
- sorrow towards
- Persia and the followers
- Emperor see
- Arabia repent
- Only he sees
- Expedition sword of chastisement and preaching of the Gospel
- Bless us!
- 3 saint… (illegible)
- the Emperor returns, and settles
- that the Lord our God the Pantocrator reigned and we lit with delight
- Glory be to Him
- general Joy and delight
- Has won… the root David
- Holy God.
- Rome and the rest, one flock, one shepherd.
- All before me stand, Emperors and soldiers, rich and starving.
- Resurrection of the Dead
- away from me the damned
- come to me, the chosen of my Father
the almighty God and glory give to Him
that the time of judgement has come
end of the world, and new world
For the time is close for the Kingdom of Heavens

(Inside the Circle)
“Constantinople”
- Iron Sword of Chastisement chastises the nations
- Great slaughter, revenge, civil war
- for he is approved by you, man yourself John and defeat your enemies!
- We stand, we stand in peace, this revenge is enough for the unbelievers and comfort.
- Resurrected from the grave he stood.
-Bless us our Lord, Bless us Lord, Bless us Lord.
- great destruction
-Babyl (Babylon probably)

(The headline of the map)
The return of the Holy Cross
Constantinople


(the words at the four corners)
1) Behold thus the unparalleled God had predecided so that the next believers may now that he also converted them with the same blood.
2) Through the Lord of the Forces He decided and wants His hand to undo (probably the order in the world)
3) Slaughter of each other in blood (shall trouble, and enhumble and eradicate a part of)
4) For the Destroyer has come towards Babylon, to change and settle. One flock, one Shepherd, Joy and delight


These are the sayings written on this map of the 18th Century, from the Holy Mount of Agion Oros.

The greek text, for anybody who knows a bit of ancient or byzantine age greek, here it is:

-ΚΡΑΥΓΗ ΠΟΛΕΜΟΥ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΕΙΣ
-ΡΩΣΣΙΑ-ΒΟΡΡΑς(ινα)α β γ δ ε ορα στοιχ.3
-Αρχαι οδυνων τρομερος αιων τριετης δυστυχια
ορα δτοιχ.2
-ΒΟΥΛΓΑΡΙΑ,ΒΛΑΧΙΑ,ΣΕΡΒΙΑ,ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ,ΣΛΑΒΟΝΙΑ,ΔΑΛΜΑΤΙΑ(η σημερινή Κροατία),ΑΥΛΩΝ
ΘΟΡΥΒΟΣ ΟΡΑ ΣΤΧ 8.8 Κ 8
-Θεσσαλία
Πνευμα επαναστατικόν Ηπείρου κ.τ.λ.
(δυο λαβ ορα στοιχ. (δεν φαινεται))
-θορυβος εις 6
-θορυβος εις(μαλλον αναφερεται στη Θεσσαλια διοτι έχει ένα τόξο που δείχνει προς τα εκεί)
-κινησις βασιλέως θορυβος και ολολυγμός!
-τριας
-παρενοχλησις
ορα στοιχ.5;
-ρομφαια οξεια
-δυτική Ευρώπη(τεσσερα)Α
τα φυλλα και τα πλήθη
συνοδοι των εσπερίων
(ΟΡΑ ΣΤΟΙΧ.Ζ 7 3 7 )
-πλέεις και αποπλεεις εις τα οπίσω
ορα στοιχ.3
-θορυβος εις
στοιχ.6.6.3.6.
-ΠΕΡΣΙΑ ΚΑΙ ΛΟΙΠΑ
-Βασιλέως ορα στοιχ.β
-Αραβία κ.τ.π. μετανοειτε
-Αυτός μόνος ορα στ.1
-εκστρατεία ρομφαία κ΄κηρυξις ευαγγελίου(ορα στοιχ.9)
-ελέησον ημάς
-τρεις αγιω...(δυσδιακριτο)
-επιστρέφει ο βασιλεύς και εγκαταστένεται
ορα στοιχ.11
-οτι εβασιλευσεν κυριος ο θεος ημων ο Παντοκράτωρ
κ΄αγαλλιομεθα κι...
Δοξαν αυτω
-χαρά και αγαλλίασις γενική
ορα στ.12
-Ενίκησεν...η ρίζα Δαβίδ
αγιος ο Θεός
-Ρώμη και λοιπά μια ποιμνη,εις ποιμήν
(ΟΡΑ ΣΤΟΙΧ...)
-άπαντες εμού παρίστανται
βασιλείς και στρατιώται
πλούσιοι και πένητες
-αναστασις νεκρών.
-πορεύεσθε απ'εμού οι καταραμένοι
-δεύτε προς εμέ οι εκλεκτοί του Πατρός μου
-.....τον Θεόν και δότε δόξαν
Αυτ'ω οτι ήλθεν η ώρα της κρίσεως αυτού
-συντέλεια και....κ΄νέος κόσμος
-ήγγικε γρα η Βασιλεία των ουρανών
.....

και εντός του κύκλου γράφει
ΚΩΝΣΤΑΝΤΙΝΟΥΠΟΛΙΣ
-ρομφαία σιδηρά παταξη τα έθνη
-σφαγή τρομερά,εκδίκησις,εμφύλιος πόλεμος
-αρεστός εστί υμίν ουτος,Ανδρίζου Ιωάννη και νίκα τους εχθρούς σου
-Στώμεν,στώμεν ειρήνη υμείν,αρκεί η εκδίκησις αυτή επι τους απειθείς
και παρηγόρια
-Έγειρε αναστάς εκ του μνήματος.
Κύριε ελέησον,Κύριε ελέησον,Κύριε ελέησον.
-ΣΥΝΤΡΙΜΜΑ ΜΕΓΑ
-ΒΑΒΥΛ

ΚΑΙ Ως ΕΠΙΚΕΦΑΛΙΔΑ Ο ΤΙΤΛΟΣ ΕΙΝΑΙ
ΥΨΩΣΙΣ ΣΤΑΥΡΟΥ στοιχ.3.3. κ 3
ΚΩΝΣΤΑΝΤΙΝΟΥΠΟΛΙΣ

ΟΙ ΤΕΣΣΕΡΙΣ ΠΛΕΥΡΕΣ ΤΟΥ ΧΑΡΤΗ.1)ΙΔΟΥ ΛΟΙΠΟΝ Ο ΥΨΙΣΤΟΣ ΘΕΟΣ ΕΙΧΕ ΠΡΟΑΠΟΦΑΣΙΣΜΕΝΑ ΔΙΑ ΝΑ ΓΝΩΡΙΖΟΥΝ ΟΙ ΜΕΤΑΓΕΝΕΣΤΕΡΟΙ ΠΙΣΤΟΙ ΟΥΣ ΤΩ ΙΔΙΩ ΑΙΜΑΤΙ ΕΞΗΓΟΡΑΣΕΝ.2)ΔΙΑ ΚΥΡΙΟΥ ΤΩΝ ΔΥΝΑΜΕΩΝ ΑΠΕΦΑΣΙΣΕ ΚΑΙ ΤΙΣ ΘΕΛΕΙ ΑΝΑΙΡΕΣΕΙ Η ΧΕΙΡ ΑΥΤΟΥ.3)ΣΦΑΓΙΑ ΑΛΛΗΛΟΙΣ ΑΙΜΑΤΗΡΑ(ΠΑΙΔΕΥΣΙΝ ΚΑΙ ΤΑΠΕΙΝΩΣΙΝ ΚΑΙ ΕΞΟΛ/ΣΟΥΝ ΜΕΡΟΥΣ ΑΥΤΟΥ.4)ΔΙΟΤΙ Ο ΕΞΟΛΟΘΡΕΥΤΗΣ ΗΛΘΕΝ ΕΠΑΝΩ ΕΙΣ ΤΗΝ ΒΑΒΥΛΩΝΑ.ΜΕΤΑΒΟΛΗΝ ΚΑΙ ΕΓΚΑΤΑΣΤΑΣΙΝ.ΜΙΑ ΠΟΙΜΝΗΝ ΕΙΣ ΠΟΙΜΗΝ.ΧΑΡΑ ΚΑΙ ΑΓΑΛΙΑΣΙΣ.




I tried to be as accurate as possible.

used contemporary common language....its not too far fetched to
hold that your above reference of Jesus saying
"...I am the Alpha and the Omega..."
might rather have been, also in the Greek, 'Alpha and Tsampi'
which is more in the mystical, magical realm, which is more in line
with the discourse that Jesus was verbalising at the time??

St Udio, Alpha and Omega is the beginning and ending letters of the word "Αγαπώ", the greek verb for love!

(sexual love would be ερωτας, while brotherlike love would be αγάπη)

Ntinos, I can't thank you enough!

Your English is excellent for a secong language!

Αγαπώ.........Love.
Did not even cross my mind....
I remember reading an article about the missuse of the word....''Αγαπώ''

Thanks again
God bless
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helen

Your English is excellent for a secong language!

Thank you Helen!

"for he is approved by you, man yourself John and defeat your enemies"!

This verse above from the MAP ...IOUANIS/John in English (prophecy from various prophets and Saints have prophesied that before the end of the world a man will be chosen by God his name starting with I and ending with S.....

St. Andrew the Fool-for-Christ writes: "When his reign [that of the last Orthodox emperor] has ended, the beginning of sorrows will set in. Then the son of iniquity will arise and reign in this city for three and a half years, and cause such wickedness to be done as has not been committed since the beginning of the world. He will decree that fathers should lie with their daughters and mothers with their sons and brothers with their sisters, and whoever refuses to do so will be punished with death. The stench and abomination will rise up before the Lord, Who will be bitterly angered, and He will command His thunder and lightning to smite the earth. Many cities will be burned down, and men will be paralysed with fear."[220]

A fool for Christ is titled as such because .......quote///the essence of this exploit is in a voluntary acceptance of humiliation and insults in order to achieve the height of humility, meekness and goodness of heart and by this to cultivate love even for one's enemies and persecutors.
It is a life-and-death struggle not only with sin, but with the root of sin - pride in all its secret displays.
A fool-for-Christ (yurodivy) is determined to follow the crucified Christ and to live keeping completely away from all earthly comforts...

"Fools for Christ" are saints who acted very strangely in public in order to hide their virtues. Many did strange tings, like running around half dressed in rags, even in the winter, or wearing no clothes at all. Many times they had spiritual gifts of discernment or prophecy. Their podvig (spiritual struggle) is not fit for many, and only was possible because of their deep humility. Two well known "Fools for Christ" are:

* St Xenia of Petersburg
* St Basil (for whom the Great Cathedral in Moscow is named, and who was the only man able to rebuke Tsar Ivan the Terrible, and live)

Back to the MAP of the end......

Constantinople”
- Iron Sword of Chastisement chastises the nations
- Great slaughter, revenge, civil war
- for he is approved by you, man yourself John and defeat your enemies!

Constantinople will be freed by the Russians in a war with Turkey(as many other prophecies have said)
The Gospel will be preached throughout the world ......
Great Slaughter .......Turkey will be no more....Islam will be deafeated...(as many other prophecies point to this)

Rome and the rest, one flock, one shepherd.

As was the beginning ONE FLOCK, ONE SHEPHERD.......refers to the Early church..

(Ntinos, please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong ).....

the almighty God and glory give to Him
that the time of judgement has come
end of the world, and new world
For the time is close for the Kingdom of Heavens

Time of Judgement begins when Jesus Christ and His sign appears in the heavens.....The SIGN of the CROSS.....
A new world .......His kingdom shall have no end........the 1,000 yrs is NOW(not a literal number) as this was denounced as hearesy at the Second Ecumenical Coucnicl (that's the one that finished the Nicean Creed on which all Christians base their faith on)
The traditional teaching is that the thousand year reign refers to the Church Age where Satan is bound because he can no longer decieve man by hiding the Gospel or good news of the Lord Jesus Christ our God.
For “blessed is the man that hath not walked in the counsel of the ungodly” (Psalm 1.1).
And thrice blessed is he “who reads and those who hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written in it; for the time is near…” (Revelation 1.3).

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helen

[edit on 9/9/2005 by helen670]

Helen, the "end of the world, and new world" probably refers to the world after the judgement, not the chiliast idea.

Hi/
Thought I would bring this up again as the prophecies related in this thread are coming out.
Russia
The Balkans
Turkey and the Kurds.
Albania
make what you will of it.

helen