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Secret implants and former Australian Prime Minister Harold Holt murdered

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posted on Aug, 30 2005 @ 12:19 AM
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[A former Australian Navy Diver claims on website that our former Australian Prime Minister, Harold Holt was murdered. This is not all either. This site also has CT-Scan images up there of this man's throat showing implants in him. I am absolutely shocked at the clear proof of these images and that these implants could be only what I would call, the mark of the beast. This is an absolute atrocity to even think of doing this to a person. Check out the site www.haroldholt.net... and please give me some of your opinions on this, because whatever your belief, you would have to agree that this goes against humanities rights and our freedoms and is just so very wrong.or=Red]Text Red
Gambate4freedom




posted on Aug, 30 2005 @ 12:31 AM
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I looked at the CT scans, but without specific knowledge of what a normal CT scan is supposed to look like, I found it impossible to see the implants he was talking about. Although I did observe the features he described, I am simply unsure as to whether or not they are natural or artificial. Perhaps somebody here on ATS with greater familiarity with CT scans can enlighten us? Failing that, my friend is a radiographer, but it would take some time to contact her, since she lives in Sydney and is usually fairly busy and I live in Brissie and am equally busy.

But who do you think killed him? The CIA? Why would they go to all the trouble of killing the leader of an allied nation simply because he would not allow US bases on Australian soil? Or, to put it another way, why do it in this fashion? Holt disappeared in 1967, so I presume that the US bases were to have been used by the Americans as part of their operations in Vietnam. If you were going to assassinate Holt, why not make it look as though Vietnamese operatives, or some other Communist group was responsible? To me this would make more sense, since it would rally Australians behind the war effort and make the introduction of US bases a certainty, as well as probably leading to an increased Australian commitment to Vietnam.

Sorry, but until some real, tangible evidence is forthcoming, I am going to accept that Harold Holt probably just drowned.

[edit on 30/8/05 by Jeremiah25]



posted on Aug, 30 2005 @ 04:55 AM
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Jeremiah 25 - in response to your reply

All I can say, is that if you cannot see what a 10 year old child could, in this CT-Scan, which includes a wire running from the hole in the back of his neck towards the spine, then it is this type of ignorance that allows the people to do what they do.

I would also question that your reply is of either misinformation or disinformation.

Either way, I am still amazed at how some people will wait for a professional to give them the obvious. I suppose too, you'd expect the Intelligence Agencies to say: Yes, we did that to him - before you believe --- As if!!!

It is time people open their eyes and take a good look at what is around them, because Jeremiah, for anyone to believe in a GOD, a Creator or the Supreme Master, this is nothing but outright evil and against all his Laws of Creation. I'll leave you with this Biblical quote: Publish and conceal not --- Jeremiah 50:2

Gambate4freedom



posted on Aug, 30 2005 @ 06:41 AM
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All I can say, is that if you cannot see what a 10 year old child could, in this CT-Scan, which includes a wire running from the hole in the back of his neck towards the spine, then it is this type of ignorance that allows the people to do what they do. I would also question that your reply is of either misinformation or disinformation.

Hey, calm down. I am not attacking your post in any way. I've never been very good at interpreting X-Rays or CT scans. The wire and the hole and the implant might very well be just that. All I am saying is that I personally cannot see it, but I also said that I don't really have anything to compare it to, so I don't really know what to look for, what should be there and what shouldn't. I'm sorry if you think I'm ignorant, but I haven't really had much experience with viewing and interpreting these kinds of images, is all.

As for the disinformation, well I don't really know how to convince you that that isn't what I am trying to do. I'm open to the possibility that something more sinister may have happened to Harold Holt. But as I said, I simply do not believe that the evidence supports such a theory. I could be wrong, it would not surprise me. What I said about the motives of the CIA was purely my own opinion. I happened to think it was a fairly logical conclusion, but I understand if you disagree. You are entitled to your own opinion, as I am to mine.

Of course if his death was manufactured, then it was truly an evil act. All I was doing was offering an alternate point of view. Surely here at ATS, of all places, we can discuss different theories without calling each other ignorant.



posted on Aug, 30 2005 @ 07:42 AM
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In 1967 Harold Hold had lot of problems here in Australia.

There were rumours about his sons marriages, his brother had just died, he was facing a hostile senate over the possible abuse of VIP aircraft , and protests against our involvement in Vietnam were growing. He was also facing a possible challenge to his leadership.

What was going in his favour, however was a strong alliance with the USA and a breaking away from our traditional ties with England.

I have studied Australian political history at length and have never found anywhere that Harold Hold refused or did not want American bases on Australian soil.

What is documented at this stage in australian history is Holt's refusal to allow the BRITISH further bases on Australian soil, due to them pulling out of Malaysia/Singapore, in contrast to earlier promises to remain. In response to this, Australia at this time was re-positioning itself as America's ally , not Britains.

It makes no sense studying the history of the time to say that Harold Holt was opposed to american bases when a year before he died he had Paul Hasluk , the Minister for External Affairs, sign the agreement to set up these bases. Admittedly it might have been public front, but I have seen no evidence to prove this.

As for where he went missing - Cheviot Beach is known here as a dangerous beach anyway. There are strong undertows that can easily pull you out to sea. Basic beach safety we are taught in Australia when it comes to surf beaches is to " swim between the flags" - the lifesaving clubs put up flags where you can swim while they watch you and if you are in need of help the idea is to raise your hand and they come pull you out of the water.

Cheviot was not a patrolled beach. The beach at Portsea, which was patrolled at the time , was closed due to the rough conditions. One of his companions on the day reported the undertow he felt while going into the water at Cheviot and decided for his own safety not to go out further. Holt ignored it and was possibly swept out to sea. I live about an hours drive from where Holt disappeared and I know first hand the conditions of this beach. I've swam there when on holidays and in summer. The undertow on calm days is strong enough, on rough ones there is no way I would chance going swimming here. And there is absolutely no way I would EVER chance swimming here when a patrolled beach not far away is closed.

Please see the following article for a report on the conditions and eye witness accounts of the conditions at Cheviot beach. Eye Witness accounts

I dont know about the implant in the CAT scans this guy provides. I admit I am not in the medical field and cant read a CAT scan. But I do find the claims he makes to be far fetched in the light of historical events.

Why kill Holt, who was trying to foster relations with the USA ? Gough Whitlam, Prime Minister of Australia 1972-1976 was increadably vocal and almost anti-american regarding the bases and he wasnt killed. It could be argued that his dismissal was engineered because of his opposition, but that's a conspiracy theory for another thread.


for further reading of the political climate in Australia at the time please see the links below.
Australian National Archives - Harold Holt
Australian National Archives - Harold Holt's disappearance

As a post script - the ironic upshot of all this is that they named a swimming pool after Harold Holt. It still exists too.

[edit on 30-8-2005 by mulberryblueshimmer]



posted on Aug, 30 2005 @ 03:06 PM
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I had a good look at the site and couldn't really see any evidence for either the "murder" or the poor bloke's "implants". He says he was involved in the killing of Harold Holt but doesn't present any evidence other than saying he was. It is not even clear what the "implant" is meant to do or what it has to do with anything else.

I'm in no way qualified to say so, but I do fear for the mental health of the guy who set that site up. I hope he is OK.



posted on Aug, 30 2005 @ 03:18 PM
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Originally posted by mulberryblueshimmer
As a post script - the ironic upshot of all this is that they named a swimming pool after Harold Holt. It still exists too. [edit on 30-8-2005 by mulberryblueshimmer]


Aussie humor for you.
Harold Holt Swim Centre

Sanc'.



posted on Aug, 30 2005 @ 06:08 PM
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From what i gathered reading the site, the implants would have been used to silence him by the powers that be to coverup this alleged crime/assination of the prime minister. Implant tech has been around for 50+ years as has the practise of radio wave manupulation of the human brain. Basically if a government wanted someone to be labelled mentally unfit and labelled dellusional or in his case intentionally zombified out, the black op means is there.

A klystron is a specialized vacuum tube (evacuated electron tube) called a linear-beam tube. The pseudo-Greek word klystron comes from the stem form κλυσ- (klys) of a Greek verb referring to the action of waves breaking against a shore, and the end of the word electron. Klystrons are used as an oscillator or amplifier at microwave and radio frequencies to produce both low power reference signals for superheterodyne radar receivers and to produce high-power carrier waves for communications and the driving force for linear accelerators. It has the advantage (over the magnetron) of coherently amplifying a reference signal and so its output may be precisely controlled in amplitude, frequency and phase.

All governments are involved heavely in pychotronic research and development. If this persons story is true, i wish him luck in winning the case and i hope some justice will get served.



posted on Aug, 31 2005 @ 01:28 AM
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I really am thankful for everyone's reply, yours too Jeremiah 25. Yes, it is absolutely each and every individuals right to express their opinion. That's the beauty of having your own mind, and I do understand that everyone has there own perspective on what they see.

I guess that in all honesty, when I found this site and saw the images there, it scared me. What I find even scarier is that this type of deception is happening and most people out there are oblivious to it. I just believe passionately in a person's right to freedom and that if they have done this to control someone against their will, especially a person's thinking, this is a truly heinous act against humanity. Thanks again for everyone's opinions.



posted on Aug, 31 2005 @ 01:41 AM
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That's the beauty of having your own mind, and I do understand that everyone has there own perspective on what they see.

Hmm, if you genuinely believe that the CT-scans show some form of implant, perhaps you should consider showing the picture to a professional radiologist. They may be in a better position to tell you exactly what the objects may or may not be. As I said, I can show the pics to a friend of mine who is a radiologist, but it may take some time so you may be better served acting on your own initiative.

Alternatively, fanatical_radical1974 seems to be quite well versed in this particular phenomenon. Perhaps he would agree to share some more detailed information with you concerning implants and their applications and reality.

It's good that you feel so passionately concerning rights and freedoms. Too many people are apathetic towards such things. Keep it up.



posted on Sep, 1 2005 @ 01:21 AM
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"Basically if a government wanted someone to be labelled mentally unfit and labelled dellusional or in his case intentionally zombified out, the black op means is there." fanatical_radical1974


Thankyou for your comments, I found them to be both refreshing and rewarding that someone else sees and has knowledge of this type of thing. It has made me feel relaxed as when I saw the image, my feelings were of fear that this type of thing was possible and when trying to discuss this with others, I was viewed as being paranoid.

This man mentions that this left him unable to write or speak with clarity for almost 30 years and this horrified me because what it still comes down to is that if they can do this to a person with the malicious intent to control or silence them, what have we to look forward to in the future then with advancement of technology.

Once again fanatical_radical1974, I am so grateful for your comments although I do admit what you have written is well above my comprehension. I hope that you may reply again with a simpler explanation so that I may try to understand more clearly. It would be much appreciated.



posted on Sep, 1 2005 @ 11:13 PM
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In response to taking my own initiative to have the CT-Scan viewed by a professional, I searched through a number of other site’s and found a website designed by John Williams, who has used this man’s CT-Scan image and states “shocking and important evidence of the existence of electronic implants”

Mr John Williams is a former Senior Electronics Design engineer; Professor of Computer Science (NMSU]; Electronics Weapons Design engineer(Navy, Air Force); and Health Physicist(NIH) and so I have no doubt that he is very experienced in this area and in identifying what he sees.

As shown by what Mr Williams has written on his site, he agrees that there is one 'object' which is in the spine at the jaw level; the hole in the back of the neck shows a 'wire' running down towards a second 'object' located between the trachea and the spine; there is yet a third 'object' below the jaw and Mr Williams also states he sees other strange objects, and asks the reader do they also see these other strange objects.

To have a further look for yourself or anyone else who may be interested in doing so for more information, you can check this out on www.consumertronics.net...

I know that there will always be doubting thomas' but I find it very hard to dispute visual evidence and deep down we all know we are denied the truth from our Governments.



posted on Sep, 3 2005 @ 12:40 AM
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I take this opportunity to thank all those who have added to this discussion and may I add by saying:

It amazes me that the Internet is full of mind control websites and if I may refer to the posting on this section of the forum, like Cathy O’Brien she writes about what she knows and gives names of the people involved. I do believe in what she is saying; however her evidence are names and events and people accept this as fact. I would also like to point out that she has commercialised her experiences.

Given what Mr Simmons has on his website I think that these are very important facts that should be taken into account: 1. The CT-Scan images showing illicit objects in his throat, 2. He was a former Navy diver, 3. His high security level as mentioned in his documents and 4. As mentioned in the newspaper article on his site it refers to him as a Manchurian Candidate. --- then on top of all this, a 38 year controversy of the disappearance of an Australian Prime Minister, which makes his account of events very plausible and credible.

Also you will notice his site has no copyright nor has he turned it into a commercial venture allowing people to use his evidence.

The sceptics should think why is it that Mr Simmons has been allowed to operate in this/his protected space when these are the people who can dispose of anyone around the world and drop buildings that defy the laws of gravity.

Let's hope we have more people like him who come forward, to allow us to see the evil that is happening around us.



posted on Sep, 3 2005 @ 01:29 AM
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Originally posted by sanctum

Originally posted by mulberryblueshimmer
As a post script - the ironic upshot of all this is that they named a swimming pool after Harold Holt. It still exists too. [edit on 30-8-2005 by mulberryblueshimmer]


Aussie humor for you.
Harold Holt Swim Centre

Sanc'.


love it

Harold holt was suppossededly drowned or taken by a shark,Billy Connelly talked about this and said "we had Thatcher,just think of all those sharks out there doin nothin.



posted on Sep, 18 2005 @ 09:52 PM
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As this posting is almost exhausted, there are a few things I would like to say. My intention for this post was in the hopes to show and allow others to see for themselves just how twisted and deceitful this world has become when 'they' can interfere, manipulate and control a humans thought patterns and body functions through mind control and implants.

To me, this CT-Scan image is one of great importance when it comes to the rights of humanity and our freedoms and I am disappointed to say the least that people do not see the implications of what this means for the future of humanity.

What was done to this man was more than 30 years ago and it just goes to show how far advanced in technology 'they' are. How many others have 'they' experimented on in the past without success and simply disposed of them like a lab rat, they killed themselves or were simply written off as mentally unstable.

We talk about denying ignorance and the importance of speaking Truth. Well the fact is that the Truth is put there in front of us every day to grab a hold of and what do we do with it?

Yes, you all have a right to your views and opinions on this or anything else, whatever that may be. That is your choice but each and every one of you might want to stop and think, those views and opinions you have may be the last of your freedoms because when 'they' decide "FOR THE SAFEST AND SECURIST PROTECTION OF YOUR ASSETS AND PERSONAL RECORDS IN AN EVER GROWING UNSAFE WORLD, THE ONLY WAY TO DO THIS IS TO IMPLANT EVERY MAN, WOMAN AND CHILD WITH THE BIO-CHIP"

Bio-chip, Verichip, Digital Angel, whatever name 'they' put to it, it is the biggest load of crap I have ever heard. I honestly hope humanity wakes up very soon to the sinister motive behind this. Perhaps, this is going to be one of the greatest tests of mankind ever known!

I do hope that there are those of you who do see the importance of this matter and to those who do, I say Stand Firm for Freedom and Truth, and may you be given strength.



posted on Sep, 18 2005 @ 11:05 PM
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How do you NOT NOTICE that you were knocked unconscious, had your throat surgically opened up, things added to it, and it sewn back up? The placement of these things would have to be precise, so it's not like they could just open his mouth shove them down his throat and hope they got to the right spot. There would have to be cuts and stitches. How do you NOT notice that???

[edit on 18-9-2005 by Zaphod58]



posted on Sep, 19 2005 @ 02:51 AM
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"FOR THE SAFEST AND SECURIST PROTECTION OF YOUR ASSETS AND PERSONAL RECORDS IN AN EVER GROWING UNSAFE WORLD, THE ONLY WAY TO DO THIS IS TO IMPLANT EVERY MAN, WOMAN AND CHILD WITH THE BIO-CHIP"


Your no lone ranger in your concerns of these things being developed, there are many people here on ATS who share your same concerns.This thread however is tyeing Harold Holt to the same technologies which is very debatable for my opinion.

So don`t be totally disheartened the main topic and concern of your thread is and should be the Veri Chip,Bio Chip,Angel Chip.

www.verichipcorp.com...

www.biochipnet.com...

www.digitalangelcorp.com...

Revelation KJV


13] And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
[14] And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
[15] And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
[16] And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
[17] And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
[18] Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.




[edit on 19-9-2005 by gps777]



posted on Nov, 25 2007 @ 05:32 PM
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I know its a fairly old post, but it needs updating.

-:- The diver Gary Simmonds was forced to move his web site to www.harold-holt.net

Personally, I think his claims were marred by having an opinion rather than stating the facts as he knew them. While feasible, that a navy diver be involved in clandestine operations, would they be told the reasons for them... nahhh!

Shame he is not able to prove in some way his involvement on the night.

As to the operation, again inconclusive.



posted on Sep, 20 2008 @ 12:42 PM
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Study the police reports. There are too many inconsistancies. Who the # was Alan Stewert? He has been noted to have three different professions.

CIA - task force 157. Micheal hand, bernie Houghton.

Australian conspirortors - Sir Peter Ables, Malcom Frazer and there is a lot more

There is a lot more factual evidence as well through national archives. Have you got the balls to unravcel the biggest assination since JFK

Regards from a friend theaat knows all



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