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Originally posted by Chasrac64 They claim this was the Caucasian race? Does anyone else have any Ideas on this?
I also thought that The Indian Race was here for along time. I always believed that these were the Lost Tribes. I dunno why I feel this.
Originally posted by FallenFromTheTree
One of my good friends has a fine collection of arrowheads and other native American artifacts.
The Smithsonian has verified some of his findings as stone cutting tools, a rare stone tomohawk head and some beautifly detailed arrowheads officially dated as far back as 10,000 years ago.
Originally posted by Chasrac64
I dont think it sounds like a racist site at all. Ed you have to study the word " Adam" It means " Ruddy, to blush in the face. David was said to of been described like this in the Book of Samuel. Ch.16 verse 12. They said he was " Ruddy"
Who do you think These " Beast " like people were in the Bible?
I have never heard it put this way before, so I thought it would be an Interesting subject.
I have heard that " Adam= Mankind, but never seen it put this way Ed.
Good point. fallen, never thought about this! so maybe this is just a church doctrine your saying because the Kings in them days were the rulers of them days. very good point.
Originally posted by FallenFromTheTree
We have to remember that the church used the holy texts to teach the masses.
I honestly believe that specific details of this manner proclaiming superiority of one race or tribe over another were added by the church to justify the acceptance of slavery and servitude.
Originally posted by Chasrac64
I ran across this on the Internet. Some are saying that" The Adam "that was formed is only 6,000 yrs old.
There were other Men on the Earth before this Race was created? They claim this was the Caucasian race? Does anyone else have any Ideas on this?
Also I ran across a verse in the Bible. Jer.31 verse 27 I will qoute what it says here.
" Behold, The days come, saith the Lord that I will sow the house of Israel an the House of Judah with the seed of MAN an with the seed of BEAST"
Jonah 3 verse 8 " but let MAN an BEAST be covered with sackcloth an cry mightily unto God.."
Who were these people that were" Beast? "There are many other places that are mentioned in the Bible.
If this is so then the " Flood" was not globel, an this would explain some of the Early Man bones found.
Also theres the " Missing Link" could maybe all this fit together?
Who were these people that were" Beast?
Jews look like Arabs.......at least the middle eastern ones do.
fallen from teh tree
were added by the church to justify the acceptance of slavery and servitude.
The Bible implys strongly that earlier and purer DNA made it possible for humans to live for 3-500 years, but the purity was corrupted one way or another to drasticly shorten our life span.
Originally posted by Chasrac64 Ok, How about the Adam that was formed in an Image of Elohims, were these like Aliens? The Ones that came down from Heaven? So this mean I have like Alien or Angel whatever you all call these things that came down? could have been huh? would this explain the Missing link? where Darwin when you need to ask him a few things?
Originally posted by Chasrac64Amorites an the Hitties? does anyone know? Ed you seem to know the Bible pretty well, who were these groups?
AMORITES A people who occupied part of the Promised Land and often fought Israel. Their history goes back before 2000 B.C. They took control of the administration of Babylonia for approximately 400 years (2000-1595), their most influential king being Hammurabi (1792-1750). Their descent to Canaan may be traced back to 2100-1800 when their settlement in the hill country helped to set the stage for the revelation of God through Israel.
Abraham assisted Mamre the Amorite in recovering his land from four powerful kings (Gen. 14), but later the Amorites were a formidable obstacle to the Israelites' conquest and settlement of Canaan. They preferred living in the hills and valleys that flank both sides of the Jordan River. Sihon and Og, two Amorite kings, resisted the Israelites' march to Canaan as they approached east of the Jordan (Nu. 21:21-35); but after the Israelite victory here, Gad, Reuben and half of Manasseh settled in the conquered area. These two early victories over the Amorites foreshadowed continued success against other Amorites to the west and were often remembered in both history (e.g., Deut. 3:8; Josh. 12:2; Judg. 11:19) and poetry (Num. 21:27-30; Ps. 135:10-12; 136:17-22). West of the Jordan, the Amorites lived in the hills along with the Hivites, Hittites, and Jebusites (Num. 13:29; Josh. 11:3); but specific identification of Amorite cities cannot be certain since the term "Amorite" is used often as a very general name for all the inhabitants of Canaan, as is "Canaanite" (e.g. Gen. 15:16; Josh. 24:15; Judg. 6:10; 1 Kings 21:26). Five city-states in south Canaan formed an alliance instigated by the king of Jerusalem (Jebus, Jebusites) and intimidated an ally of Joshua, i.e. Gibeon. These "Amorites," as they are called in the general sense, were defeated by Joshua's army and the Lord's "stones from heaven" (Josh. 10:1-27). Amorites also were among those in the north who unsuccessfully united to repel the Israelites (Josh. 11:1-15). Later, two other Amorite cities, Aijalon and Shaalbim, hindered the settlement of Dan near the Philistine border (Judg. 1:34-36).
Amorite culture laid at the root of Jerusalem's decadence, according to Ezekiel (Ezek. 16:3,45); and Amorite idolatry tainted the religion of the Northern and Southern Kingdoms (1 Kings 21:26; 2 Kings 21:11). Despite the Amorite resistance and poor influence, they were subjugated as slaves (Judg. 1:35; 1 Kings 9:20,21; 2 Chron. 8:7,8). Their past hindrance is a subject of derision for the prophet Amos (Amos 2:9,10). See also Canaanites; Jebusites; Babylon; Syria; Sihon.
Daniel C. Fredericks
Roy L. Honeycutt
HITTITES AND HIVITES Non-Semitic minorities within the population of Canaan who frequently became involved in the affairs of the Israelites.
Hittite and Hivite peoples of Indo-European origin, identified within the population of Canaan (as "sons" of Canaan) in the Table of Nations (Gen. 10:15,17), seemingly infiltrated from their cultural and political centers in the north and settled throughout Palestine. Although the history and culture of the Hittites is being clarified, a problem exists with the so-called "Hivites," a name of unknown origin without any extra-biblical references. That they were uncircumcised (Gen. 34:2,14) would suggest an Indo-European rather than Semitic origin. The more acceptable identification therefore would be with the biblical Horites (Hurrians) whose history and character are well-known from extra-biblical sources and consistent with role attributed to them in the biblical text. The Septuagint reading "Choraios" (Horite) for the Massoretic "Hivite" in Gen.34:2 and Josh. 9:7 suggests this identification (see Horites; Hurrians).
Hittites in the Bible Hittites appear among the ethnic groups living in urban enclaves or as individuals in Canaan interacting with the Israelites from patriarchal times to the end of the monarchy (Gen. 15:20; Deut. 7:1; Judg. 3:5). As a significant segment of the Canaan's population, these "children of Heth" permanently became identified as "sons" of Canaan (Gen. 10:15). In patriarchal times, the reference to King Tidal (in Hittite Tudhaliya II) in Gen. 14:1 is a possible link to early imperial Hatti. In Canaan, the Hittites established a claim on the southern hill country, especially the Hebron area. As a result, Abraham lived among this native population as a "stranger and a sojourner" (Gen. 23:4). He was forced to purchase the Cave of Machpelah from Ephron the Hittite as a family tomb, specifically for the immediate burial of Sarah (Gen. 23). Esau's marriage to two Hittite women ("daughters of Heth ... daughters of the land") greatly grieved and displeased his parents (Gen. 26:34,35; 27:46).
The geographical reference to "all the land of the Hittites" (Josh.1:4) on the northern frontier of the Promised Land may indicate a recognition of the Hittite/Egyptian border treaty established by Rameses II and the Hittites under King Hattusilis III of about 1270 B.C. Moses' listing of the inhabitants of the Promised Land included the Canaanites, Hittites, Amorites, Hivites, and Jebusites (Ex. 13:5), a situation that was confirmed by the twelve spies sent to explore the land. They reported that Amalekites occupied the Negev, the Hittites, the Jebusites, and Amorites lived in the hill country, and the Canaanites were concentrated along the Mediterranean coast and the Jordan Valley (Num. 13:29; Josh. 11:3); thus the Hittites were doomed to displacement by the infiltrating and invading Hebrews (Ex. 3:8,17; 23:23; 33:2; etc.).
Devastation and pressures from the west by the Phrygians and the Sea Peoples brought another Hittite population to Canaan about 1200 B.C. Ezekiel recalled that Jerusalem had Amorite and Hittite origins (Ezek. 16:3,45). David purchased a threshing floor from Araunah the Jebusite (2 Sam. 24:16-25) whose name may suggest a Hittite noble status ("arawanis" in Hittite meaning "freeman, noble"). Later, the account of David's illicit love affair with Bathsheba indicates that Uriah and possibly other Hittites were serving as mercenaries in David's army (2 Sam. 11:3,6; 23:39). The Hittite woman among Solomon's foreign wives was probably the result of a foreign alliance with a neo-Hittite king of north Syria (1 Kings 10:29-11:2; 2 Chron. 1:17). Hittites together with other foreign elements appear to have been conscripted to forced labor during Solomon's reign (1 Kings 9:20-21).
Languages of the Hittite World Records of the Assyrian trade colonies in the "Land of Hatti" suggest an earlier sub-stratum of linguistic and cultural development in the vicinity of Kanesh. This non-Indo-European language also found in texts from the Boghazkoy archives has been called "Hattic." It appears to have been at least one of the languages spoken in central Anatolia before the coming of the Hittite-Luwian branch of Indo-Europeans.
For several hundred years Kanesh was the primary center of Anatolian affairs. Its role as a major Assyrian trading colony provided access to the Mesopotamian cuneiform system of writing. As a result, "cuneiform" Hittite became the "official" language of the empire (about 1600-1200 B.C.) for its historical annals, laws, and international treaties and correspondence. It was a spoken language only within the vicinity of Hattusas, the capital and center of Hittite officialdom.
Speakers of an Indo-European language appear to have arrived in Anatolia from the north shortly before 4000 B.C. and gradually spread southward. These northwestern Anatolian settlers between 4000 and 3000 B.C. spoke an early form of Greek. The impression in Central Anatolia is of a generally peaceful spread of influence and language from the south and to a lesser extent from the west of Indo-Europeans whose ancestors recently had arrived from southeastern Europe. As a result from 3000 to 2000 B.C. much of Anatolia was occupied by various Indo-European elements who spoke closely related languages that included Hittite and Luwian (the Arzawans). However, soon after 1800 B.C., the kings of Kussara on the eastern frontier of Indo-European Anatolia assumed control. They conquered Kanesh and other central cities and established their capital at Hattusas. Their language, by this time clearly an archaic form of Hittite, was written in a hieroglyphic script. The iconography of this hieroglyphic script clearly suggests western origins. Hieroglyphic Hittite continued as the principal spoken language throughout the imperial and neo-Hittite periods to about 700 B.C.
Hittite Old Kingdom The growing pressure of the Hurrians about 1780 B.C. forced a Hittite consolidation and the eventual establishment of their fortress