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Towards the end of his life, Yarker was looking for someone to carry on the work of the A&P Rite in England, and decided on that person being Crowley. To this effect, he bestowed on Crowley, by post, the degrees of 33°, 90° and 95°; respectively, the Ancient and Accepted, Memphis and Mizraim. No evidence is available that the two ever met.
Grand Lodge
Although, unbeknown to him at the time of joining, all his affiliations were with unrecognized and irregular bodies
Originally posted by Equinox99
Wasn't Aleister Crowley a high ranking freemason?
He was a strict believer of Sex and magic.
He was in contact with Horus while at the Giza pyramid, which told him to write the book of laws.
Originally posted by Icarus Rising
If its bunk, why are you guys falling all over yourselves to debunk it? Seems to me you would be better served to blow it off.
Correct on both counts. There's no proof that Gnostics, Pike, Jacques de Molay, nor the Knights Templar practiced ritual abuse.
Originally posted by childabusereporter
"Some believe Masonry has promoted Gnostic thinking. Albert Pike (33 degree Mason) ties the Masons to Jacques de Molay of the Knights Templar.
Some people are also wrong in their beliefs. Even so, the Hellfire Club disbanded in 1766 and the Bavarian Illuminati disbanded in 1785. And there's no evidence that either practiced ritual abuse.
Some believe the Masons may have helped create the Hell Fire Club (Black Masses) and the Illuminati.
Some believe the KKK can be traced to a group made up of some Masons and derived rites and symbols from the Masons. “Many survivors of ritual abuse allege traumatic experiences associated with what they believe to be KKK activities, and many of these describe the KKK as a cult.” (Pg, 103, Noblitt and Perskin)
Whether or not any of those men were Masons is debatable. Even if they were, so what? Did the Golden Dawn practice ritual abuse? Does the Mafia?
Some people believe the following were Masons: Aleister Crowley (alleged ritual human sacrifice, O.T.O., Golden Dawn), Dr. W. W. Wescott (Golden Dawn), Karl Kellner and Theodore Reuss (O.T.O.), alleged MAFIA connection, Mazzini."
You've got a lot of "some people believe" in all of that. No actual out-and-out accusations? No charges filed? No convictions? Seems like a bunch of hot air...
Ann-Marie Germain, 1993 thesis, discusses alleged Masonic Ritual Abuse. “Understanding Ritual Abuse” a study of 33 R.A.’s, (from R.A. Project, 431 Auburn Blvd #215, Sacr, Ca. 95841), survivors name two groups they believe perpetrators belonged to, Masons (27%), Knights of Columbus (9%), other groups mentioned were: Rosicrucians, Eastern Star, Shriners.
“Deviant Scripturalism and Ritual Satanic Abuse Part Two: Possible Masonic, Mormon, Magick and Pagan Influences” by Stephen Kent, (Pub. in Religion )
Originally posted by eudaimonia
Not really. It is harder to find the perpetrator(s) of an SRA victim than a bank robber because SRA is done in secrecy.
Originally posted by JoshNorton
Correct on both counts. There's no proof that Gnostics, Pike, Jacques de Molay, nor the Knights Templar practiced ritual abuse.
Whether or not any of those men were Masons is debatable. Even if they were, so what? Did the Golden Dawn practice ritual abuse? Does the Mafia?
Originally posted by Equinox99
reply to post by JoshNorton
Well, do you blame people for bringing forth these arguments?
Originally posted by Equinox99
Something shrouded in secrecy and from ancient times isn't going to always be perfect and dandy as you hope.
Originally posted by Equinox99
Do you seriously think every freemason lodge practiced what they say is the face value?
Originally posted by Equinox99
What you are trying to defend is freemasons being perfect and only a networking group since the start.
Originally posted by Equinox99
You should know by now how human work to push their own agendas and fatten their own pockets.
Originally posted by Equinox99
Are you seriously suggesting that every masonic lodge is perfect, and only social networking goes on behind closed doors when the leaders get together?