Kitsunegari, I never said that you did not know what is going on there. I'm sure that you do, since like me, you have friends and family involved. My remarks are to those who are not paying attention and not reading between the lines. This is much bigger than what is being reported in the news.

Mod Edit: to remove insult

[edit on 3-9-2005 by kinglizard]

Mizar and Family are Safe and Well

I just got off the phone with Mizar, he is doing well. It's him, his mom and dad right now. His sister left yesterday to head to another state.
The water never made into their house, so they were not affected by the flooding. He is well stocked and armed, they have all the supplies they need and feel safe and will be staying put.

Mizar is in West Bank Parish of Jefferson county which he says is unaffected by the chaos seen on the tv. Only issues is phone and electricity and he says workers have been working on the electricity problem in his area and he thinks he may get power soon. His actual location is in Harvey which is very close to the border of Marrero.

He mentioned that fellow ATS members interested in military aircrafts would have a field day, he can't even begin to count the number of black hawks he has seen. He said he was furious about the speech Bush gave yesterday.

I asked him about looting, as I mentioned above, him and his dad are armed... he said there were no major incidents in his area that he heard about, only that on Wednesday there were some guys supposedly going around siphoning gas from cars...so he and his dad kept watch in their front yard.

I filled him on info that he has not heard since his concerns were about if any other storms were on the way and about what we are hearing about the situation on tv. He feels the media is only showing the worst and that all of Louisiana and the surrounding areas of New Orleans is not as bad as seen on tv.

I'm just finally relieved to hear from him and to know that him and his family is safe. I also expressed to him the concern that the entire ATS community had for and that we're all wishing them well. I will stay in touch with him and keep you posted of any new developments.

In regards to Mizar, I'd like to mention my cousin Johnny contacted us yesterday. Unfortunately, he evacuated to Mississippi with his two toddlers and his 9 year old. (guessing ages, not 100%). He contacted my uncle John the day before yesterday in desperate need of money. My uncle John paid for plane tickets to transport the kids out here to Chicago, while Johnny is going back to New Orleans. He's going to secure his house and to help in whatever way he can. His family is safe, so he and his wife are going to ensure the safety of other families.

I ask for your prayers for him and his wife. They're two people trying to help out in thew city. Another aunt of mine is moving in with us if our neghbor, who is trying to sell their house, may take her in rent free. There's still another family member we haven't heard from who was living on a house boat in New Orleans. If he didn't get out of there... Well, we don't have much hope.

Thank You WW. Please send our love to him. I am glad he is safe, but does he realize there is little left to cling to? Do they have plans? do they realize that NO is not going to rebound too quickly from this?

Sorry - still worried about them

That's excellent news worldwatcher!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Although it seems like people who've actually come from the inner city of NO say it's worse than what's being reported. Anyway, glad they're still alive.

Originally posted by Relentless
Thank You WW. Please send our love to him. I am glad he is safe, but does he realize there is little left to cling to? Do they have plans? do they realize that NO is not going to rebound too quickly from this?

Sorry - still worried about them

They say its going to take anywhere from 32 to 80 days from 2 days ago to get the water out of NO..

So just to get the water out wont be at most till Nov or something.
Then the rest well thats going to take forever.

This is going to be a long task ahead of everyone. I hope we stand united in this on whatever goes down. not like on 9/11 where were were united for a week and went back to business as usual.

Good to hear from mizar, also sounds like they've pretty much got everybody out of NO now so also god news.

Thanks WW. I'm so relieved to hear that Mizar and his family is ok. Thakn you so much.

Great news! Thanks WW for keeping us informed.

thanks so much worldwatcher. i know everyone was concerned about mizar, glad he is ok. i would also like to apologize for the insults in my last post on this thread, my aunt got to this thread and wanted to give a piece of her mind. SORRY mr conspiracy!!!! you are entitled to post what your take on the situation is, no matter what that view may be. no hard feelings i hope?

sorry for the immature reaction to that!
--Kit

Somehow I dont think so. Because it will bring the TRUTH out.

No chance for an independent inquiry.

Like I said, the plan is to get rid of New Orleans and have the entire area for a military complex.


Anyway... lets talk about a game of POKER !!


On Thursday, it was a "desperate SOS"

On Friday, Mayor Nagin declared help was arriving "too doggone late!"

One police officer in New Orleans, Deputy Commander Riley said: "We expected a lot more support from the federal government. We expected the government to respond within 24 hours. The first three days we had no assistance." He told APF that National Guard troops sat around playing cards while people died in the stricken city after Hurricane Katrina. He launched a bitter attack on the federal response to the disaster: "We have bodies all over the city. A federal mortuary team was supposed to come in within 24 hours. We haven't seen them. It is inhumane. This is just not America...The guard arrived 48 hours after the hurricane with 40 trucks. They drove their trucks in and went to sleep. For 72 hours ( 3 days !!!) this police department and the fire department and handful of citizens were alone rescuing people. We have people who died while the National Guard sat and played cards." Mayor Nagin blasted Bush: "Now get off your asses and let's do something and fix the biggest goddamn crisis in the history of this country," he said in remarks aired on CNN.

Was the delay deliberate ?

Congrees is going to investigate this matter.

"I'm going to ask that question again," Senator Nelson said. "Do we have enough (troops), and if we do, why were they not deployed sooner?"

Several states ready and willing to send National Guard troops to the rescue in New Orleans didn't get the go-ahead until days after the storm struck - a delay nearly certain to be investigated by Congress.

Rapper Kanye West raising the racial element, took the government to task, claiming "George Bush doesn't care about black people."

He ripped the President during the live broadcast, declaring America is set up "to help the poor, the black people, the less well-off as slow as possible."




[edit on 3-9-2005 by mr conspiracy]

Does anyone know how Metairie fared in the hurricane? It's part of New Orleans. My Aunt and Uncle live there and I have not heard anything concerning their livlihood. I thought it would be somewhat easy to find out since my Aunt is the Legislative Assistant for Diana Bajoie, the District 5 Senator. I called her office in Baton Rouge, and never got a call back.

If you have any info about that part of town, please U2U me. My thoughts to everyone in the zone of destruction.

I have a strong feeling that a HUGE investigation will follow due to world wide public pressure.
This will be a non partisan inquiry demanding to know why FEMA failed.
The citizens of every major city are now wondering what would have happened to us?

The legal ramifications of these massive systematic failures causing negligent manslaughter will turn the leadership of this country upside down.

Originally posted by worldwatcher
Mizar and Family are Safe and Well

Well played old chap.....well played...

*breathes a sigh of relief*

Originally posted by junglejake
while Johnny is going back to New Orleans. He's going to secure his house and to help in whatever way he can.

I heard earlier on local NO news that the Mayor was talking about people not being allowed to go back in untill they drain the water.. refer to above post of mine. Clean up all the debri's and so on and make it somewhat safe for people to go back into to get thier things. and to secure it.

If giving the most extreme case that would be not for a while. the 1st post I made takes it up till Nov so I guess 2 or 3 months after that if they hussle thier asses and clean up fast.

Sorry to bring back news, its just how it is.. sorry man.. He will prob be sent back I think.

Heh. Will Bush allow congress to investigate. I'm guessing you haven't read the Constitution lately, Bush has no say if congress wants to investigate, and congress will be investigating. If they don't, we need a changing of the guard and a whole new legislative branch. You and I can do that through our votes and letters.

This event has really sickened me, though...What we need to be doing now is assessing the situation and correcting potholes in the operation. Far, far, far too many people are playing the blame game instead. "Well 6 months ago, this person didn't do this!" "30 years ago this person started to do this!" Go F yourself, there will be plenty of time to correct actions from the past in the future. Right now, we need to focus on what can be done, and how. These political hacks, I myself was included at one point, need to just shut up and figure out what can be done NOW. Yesterday will be addressed after the crisis. Today, we have to address today.

I may be a little cranky, tho ...Only had 3 hours of sleep and was woken up by one of those political hacks (Republican, in this case) so he could complain about political inaction years ago.

Originally posted by worldwatcher
Mizar and Family are Safe and Well

I've been lurking for several days, saying a few prayers and waiting to hear this good news!

Thank you for your updates worldwatcher!

Thanks for the update on Mizar, Worldwatcher. That´s the best news I had for weeks.

I hope they can manage now, after all the damage... I am looking forward to his posts when he gets power again...