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Anyone ever try to catch their astral projection

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posted on Aug, 23 2005 @ 11:56 AM
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I am very skeptical when it comes to astral projections. However do to the overwhelming claims that it is possible I believe the phenomenon to an extent.

Has anyone ever tried to prove that it exsist though. I have an idea. Why doesn't someone try to catch their own astral projection. It would be simple all it requires is an air condition or very cold room a video camera capable of filming in infred and the ability to astral project. Here is what you do.

Get the room your projecting in very cold, now set your camera up facing were you will be projecting from and turn it on so it starts recording. After that project out of your body. The infred video should be able to see your astral projection because there should be some type of energy there and when your in a cold room the energy should be evident making the outline of your projection.

I don't know if this would work though. Can anyone think of other ways.

[edit on 23-8-2005 by iksmodnad]



fum

posted on Aug, 23 2005 @ 02:30 PM
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very very nice i should try that soon ive also been thinking of a way of catching a stral projection on tape but in a different why i belive that like human bodys a astral projection could cast a shadow so what if there was a lgiht pointed at where u were gann project from and there was a white paper back ground on a wall and u caught it on tape but yeah yours is worth trying



posted on Aug, 23 2005 @ 03:39 PM
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hmmmm, your logic makes perfect sense, someone must try and post their results, but one thing that ii thought about while reading this, lowering the temp. of the room would make it harder to concentrate, its no big deal but just somethig i noticed.


fum

posted on Aug, 23 2005 @ 03:46 PM
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also u might die if u make it so cold like an idiot and put -30 degrees thats just not smart



posted on Aug, 23 2005 @ 06:55 PM
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A common way people prove it to themselves is the card method. Take a deck of cards and shuffle it. Draw a card and without looking at it set it on top of something high like a bookcase or refridgerator. I put a card on my bookshelf last night. I am trying to learn to AP so when I get out I'll see if I can correctly identify it.

Unless anyone else can identify it? That would be exciting.


Can anyone tell me what card is on my bookshelf in my living room?



posted on Aug, 23 2005 @ 06:56 PM
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Once I learn to AP I am going to have an out of state friend put a card out for me. Then I will really know I'm doing it right.

[edit on 23-8-2005 by imas]



posted on Aug, 23 2005 @ 09:22 PM
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I don't think the infared idea will work, for the main reason that astral projections are said to take place on a different plane (dimension). The energy your astral body is composed of may vibrate at too high of a frequency for any technology to detect, but it is worth a shot anyway. Your body just goes to sleep and doesn't really undergo any changes, so your body shouldn't change temperature either.

By far, I think that the "projecting and seeing stuff you normally shouldn't be able to see" test would be the best way to prove it, at least unto yourself... not really to others unless you directly involve them. This shouldn't be confused with remote viewing, it should be done while out of body. You could project and see an object somewhere you shouldn't know, or go and visit someone far away and tell them what they were doing/talking about at a certain time (If you know where they live). If you are practicing in a group, you can try and astral project and meet up with other experimenters at a famous landmark like the pyramids etc; will work especially good if you only know them off the internet and the next day both of you can describe each other perfectly, and what you discussed.

Another possible, more scientific test would involve weight. It is shown that at the moment of death, a person loses about twenty grams of weight (besides urine and feces), and this is said to be the "soul". If you get a very sensitive scale that can be set up with the bed, you can observe if a small amount of weight is lost during astral projection. I believe that this one should work.

[edit on 23-8-2005 by Yarcofin]



posted on Aug, 23 2005 @ 09:36 PM
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Isn't there a device they use in hospitals that maps brain waves? Am I thinking of a cat scan? Has this ever been done while someone was OBE'ing??



posted on Aug, 23 2005 @ 09:45 PM
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I believe brainwaves of someone attempting an OBE has already been done. They think it happens in Delta State (Thus there is a TV show named after it), and also means that most scientists like to brush OOBE off as sleep/dreaming, since sleep also occurs on this brainwave level. Which is true in part, since your body must be asleep to AP, and dreams take place on the astral plane.

Beta = really active brainwaves (Awake and doing stuff)
Alpha = awake, but relaxing
Theta = drowsy/tired
Delta = deep sleep

I dunno if you need a catscan or not, I think there are just electrodes that can measure it too. Plus it might be hard to relax in a catscan =).

[edit on 23-8-2005 by Yarcofin]



posted on Aug, 24 2005 @ 02:55 AM
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Well I guess the brain waves are just physical and astral is beyond the physical realm.



posted on Aug, 24 2005 @ 03:13 AM
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the way I proved it to myself was...tada


ok I was sitting at home, in the Netherlands, and i was chatting with someone from England over MSN. well we spoke and he started about having this weird sensation up on the staircase and having the idea of being watched at 1am. I suggested to have a look and see who that ghost is.

I astral traveled over. I live in the Netherlands and had to "fly" out of my house, west, over the North Sea, towards Sout-west side of England into the house of this person I was chatting with.

Once there I saw many ghosts, but only 2 on the stairs. I described both, but one in particular had a meaning to the man on MSN. the ghost i described, the way it died, the timeframe i felt it had died in and such...he was freaked because I was talking about the father of his wife that died there excactely the way i told him.

then I also said..."Hey your wife has another kid in the oven doesn't she?" to which he became more freaked saying "HOW TO HELL DO YOU KNOW!!". when i asked...she's expecting it somewhere during March right? - he needed to go for a walk outside for some fresh air hehe.

at first i had no idea if what i was saying was correct. i was just saying stuff that came up in mind at that time. during that session there were minuts i didnt say a thing because i was trying to focus and get stuff clear. with the wife and another kid i thought i was just making a joke, but i was actually correct. that even amazed me :O

as to how to capture an astral projection. well if it would work the way described in the first post, shouldn't we be able to document ghostly activity in the same manner? as well as any other being that roams the astral realms? also we don't have our physical bodies then, just our astral body which vibrates at a higher frequency...wonder how that will work out.

but i think there have been ways to prove it, but not scientifically accepted yet. the obee'r is in one room and is allowed to go astral into the room next door. in that other room there are objects. one person will enter and will add or remove an object. the obee'r is expected to say what is going on and which object was added/removed.

no idea how that works. i can't see earthly objects myself, just energie patterns :S

[edit on 24-8-2005 by Enyalius]



posted on Aug, 24 2005 @ 09:56 AM
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Sorry Enyalius but I dunno if I consider that unbiased proof, because you went there with the hopes of seeing a spirit in the first place. This is different from going and seeing something that you have no previous knowledge of, it is more like "Hey come see the red ball in my room" "Omg I came to your house, and I saw a red ball in your room!" See? And then about the other part, you said you were just guessing. That doesn't really have to do with AP since you just said it came into your mind, not that you actually saw it when you were projecting to his house.

I am not saying that this isn't proof to you that it exists, but it is just probably not enough proof for someone skeptical about OOBE.

May I ask how you found his house though? Have you been there in real life before? Cuz it sounds like you manually flew there, when you can just think and be there much easier.



posted on Aug, 24 2005 @ 10:35 AM
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actually it is proof. he said there was ghost. you are correct in saying that i came just to see that. but i could NEVER have guessed the details of that ghost which were the same details of the father in law that died in that house.

as for the child. it was not so much "guessing". i did see his wife with something. what it was i had no idea so i guessed (first thought that came in mind) it was a child.



posted on Aug, 24 2005 @ 11:24 AM
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Originally posted by Yarcofin
Another possible, more scientific test would involve weight. It is shown that at the moment of death, a person loses about twenty grams of weight (besides urine and feces), and this is said to be the "soul". If you get a very sensitive scale that can be set up with the bed, you can observe if a small amount of weight is lost during astral projection. I believe that this one should work.
[edit on 23-8-2005 by Yarcofin]


Won't work, the weight is lost only at death, not during AP.



posted on Aug, 24 2005 @ 12:07 PM
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Won't work, the weight is lost only at death, not during AP.


Have you tried it? I guess we will have to try it and see =). While the astral body is still tied to the physical body with the silver cord and whatnot, there may still be a weight difference, since the astral body is no longer IN the physical body, only attached. My idea is that it would be sort of like tying a string to a rock, holding the string, and then standing on a scale. The weight of the rock won't register just because you are attached. But of course the astral body is not just a rock sitting there on the ground next to you, so I don't know. Experiments are needed for definitive proof or disproof.


fum

posted on Aug, 24 2005 @ 02:33 PM
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haha i got scared and i though that you ment a real oven i was like wtf she put a baby in the oven and the card trick is very good idea but i wont try anything yet till my 15 month rest period is over but ill find a way to catch a astral projection on tape or photo anyways i can infered night vision frequency reader anything



posted on Aug, 24 2005 @ 02:39 PM
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Originally posted by imas
Isn't there a device they use in hospitals that maps brain waves? Am I thinking of a cat scan? Has this ever been done while someone was OBE'ing??


This HAS been done absolutely! Many 'proofs' have been documented. You should read the Robert Monroe books....he worked for years PROVING its reality....he has an OOBE clinic in Virginia I think it is...called the Monroe Intstitute. They proove it there every day on an ongoing basis. You can go there and work with them. They use a sound technique wich is very conducive for OOBE.
www.monroeinstitute.org...


Asking if anyone ever tryed to CATCH theyre projection was an odd question.....your astral self is PART of you and thats like asking if anybody has ever tryed to catch theyre finger or arm....
....reading more fully I do see you meant in the video sense. I think the Monroe institute states the reasons why this is not truly possible........


I have no need to proove it to myself, its just a hard cold fact. Once however during OOBE I saw a pack of POKEMON cards way up on the back of my shelf I did not find to give my son for Xmass. Once I saw them and knew where they were, the following day I retreieved them and dusted them off and was able to give them to him for his birthday instead. I did not do this as a PROOF so to say....I had just seen them and then knew where they were, so I was able to fetch them down. man it was dusty up in there


Once I saw a friend break a vase that was old and from her Grandmother. She was so upsett she was crying. The following day I called to tell her how sorry I was about that mishap and she was freeked that I seemed to KNOW about it......so I guess that is also outside confirmation.



[edit on 24-8-2005 by theRiverGoddess]


fum

posted on Aug, 24 2005 @ 02:56 PM
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hmm i hvnt read on monroe institute but a few years back if not months that name was rining trough my head i dunno why i think i saw it on discovery channel but i feel like ive been there or at least heard of it and how do we know that old man wont try to rape us lol



posted on Aug, 24 2005 @ 02:57 PM
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The is proof of the astral dimension, or ''other'' dimension,

Im trying to remember whrere i saw it, because some scientists used a partical launcher to proof it, they managed to get particles into the other dimension,

ill go and search for the links...ill post as soon as i found them,



posted on Aug, 24 2005 @ 05:21 PM
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Originally posted by fum
hmm i hvnt read on monroe institute but a few years back if not months that name was rining trough my head i dunno why i think i saw it on discovery channel but i feel like ive been there or at least heard of it and how do we know that old man wont try to rape us lol


Robert Monroe has long since passed away even if his institute is still in full operation. it IS a CLINICAL setting.............and during OOBE you can choose at anytime to return. If my son calls out to me my body hears this and I pop back. You do have awareness of your bodys saftey or if danger is present. Your not a complete helpless zombie or anything



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