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700 Club's Robertson Wants Chavez Assassinated

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posted on Aug, 22 2005 @ 11:01 PM
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I can't believe the things that come out of this man's mouth sometimes. For a good Christian he seems to enjoy praying for death and suffering of others. How would we react if another religious cleric was to call for the assassination of our president???

mediamatters.org...


You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it. It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war. And I don't think any oil shipments will stop. But this man is a terrific danger and the United ... This is in our sphere of influence, so we can't let this happen. We have the Monroe Doctrine, we have other doctrines that we have announced. And without question, this is a dangerous enemy to our south, controlling a huge pool of oil, that could hurt us very badly. We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability. We don't need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator. It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with.


Pat Robertson calls for assassination of Hugo Chavez
Reverend Pat Robertson says U-S should kill Venezuelan president

No wonder Chavez is getting paranoid and preparing for war with the US...
This is very dangerous language on the part of Pat Robertson.
Tensions only continue to increase...

Venezuela vows to help Castro repel US 'lord of war'
South America’s New Militarism


[edit on 8-22-2005 by worldwatcher]




posted on Aug, 22 2005 @ 11:33 PM
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I'm rather surprised no one is commenting on this story as of yet, Pat Robertson will surely face alot of heat for his comments, because this story is making it onto the national media. As a religious leader, I think his statements are way out of the ballpark and people of the Christian faith should know that is not the way a leader of a peaceful religion should speak. One could say that Pat Robertson is just the same as the other religious fanatics that started this war on terror.



posted on Aug, 22 2005 @ 11:35 PM
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Originally posted by worldwatcher
One could say that Pat Robertson is just the same as the other religious fanatics that started this war on terror.


That what I thought when I heard the story. How is he any different then a Mullah screaming for the death of (whoever)



posted on Aug, 22 2005 @ 11:38 PM
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This is the same man that keeps praying to God to give "them" another seat on the supreme court. Considering it is a lifetime appointment I guess he wants a justice to die.

The far right christian wing is really getting as crazy as the far left.

Time for the middle to take back the country and put these people on mute.

Oh and I think my God has a little rule about "though shall not kill". It doesn't say "though shall not kill, unless you feel you have a reason".



posted on Aug, 22 2005 @ 11:51 PM
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Uh, I don't hear any complaints about Chavez's work at causing insatbility in the Central American region, and nobody cries one tear over the fact that he supports the continued Communistic attack against Colombia. Maybe none of you remember the "love" spread throughout the Americas and Africa by Chavez's friend, Castro, either. We seem to pick and choose our love, don't we?

Don't get me wrong, I believe Robertson is as Myopic as many people here are, just from another angle, but I know people in Central Amercia who would be better off without Chavez's influence in that region, and one dead guy with the possibility of a better replacement is better than a LOT of dead guys.

Knocking off the enemy is ok, it just depends on the person and if you consider him an enemy, right?

Just some silly thoughts, take them or toss them, I just presented them; a possible alternative way of looking at this, is all.



posted on Aug, 23 2005 @ 12:57 AM
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Granted Chavez isn't the most appealing SA leader and he should be very careful. Remember the Banana Republics, Chile, Noriega and Peru; it's not like we haven't influenced our friends south of the border.

I guess what astonishes me is for a "man of God" to essentially call for the assination of the leader of another nation.

I remember when our clergy used to ask us to ask ourselves "what would Jesus do"

It's a brave new world; welcome to the monkey house.



posted on Aug, 23 2005 @ 01:09 AM
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Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
Uh, I don't hear any complaints about Chavez's work at causing insatbility in the Central American region, and nobody cries one tear over the fact that he supports the continued Communistic attack against Colombia.


They can hang Chavez (and Castro too) up by the thumbs and skin them as far as I am concerened, I just have a problem with our religious leaders calling for anyones death. Isnt that the kind of crap we are fighting against?



posted on Aug, 23 2005 @ 01:11 AM
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Robertson first calls for a prayer for a supreme court justice death


He said the the USA should leave Taylor, of Liberia alone [because of his[Robertson's] business dealings there]

Now this, Chavez is a dully elected leader of his country.

Why do people keep sending this guy money, he is fake, his show is fake, and if you are moved by there message, well if the shoe fits....wear it



posted on Aug, 23 2005 @ 01:17 AM
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Robertson did not call for the death of a Supreme Court member, you are misquoting him, LDF.

Amuk, is it ok for you or me to realize that we and Central America wouldbe better off if Chavez got wacked, but ol' Pat isn't allowed to realize that? I don't believe it is the same thing as Imams and Mullahs calling for the heads of Americans wherever they are found, no is it? No, it isn't. Roberston is also speaking on behalf of himself, not on behalf of God, nor is he suggesting that in doing this, the assassin would be guarranteed a place in heaven with a few dozen tramps and an endless supply of rot-gut!



posted on Aug, 23 2005 @ 01:23 AM
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Don't expect much reaction from our Sweet Neo Cons. Because, while Hugo Chavez is an aborrent leader with delusions of grandeur which usually result in hyperbolic fits of grandstanding, he's also a democratically elected leader of a federal republic.

He was relected president with over 60% of the popular vote. He defeated a recall with nearly 58% of the popular vote. The system worked, because the PEOPLE of Venezuela chose him, whether we like it or not.

Venezuela is a democracy, just not our KIND of democracy.

Which is probably the most disturbing implication of Pat Robertson's statement. He's using his pulpit to call for the assassination of the democratically elected leader of an ALLIED nation. Indeed, they are an allied nation, because they supply us with 1.6 million barrels of oil PER DAY.

But hey, we're living in a day and an age where the Rev. Sung Myung Moon can OWN the Washington Times, finance the religious right, AND supply North Korea with arms, and it's never reported.



posted on Aug, 23 2005 @ 01:24 AM
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Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
Robertson did not call for the death of a Supreme Court member, you are misquoting him, LDF.


true



I don't believe it is the same thing as Imams and Mullahs calling for the heads of Americans wherever they are found, no is it? No, it isn't.



No but its uncomfortable close for me. As a newly converted heathen (bet that caught you off guard) I expect better of our side. I thought our holy men were susposed to be concerened about our souls, not the enemies of the state.



Roberston is also speaking on behalf of himself, not on behalf of God, nor is he suggesting that in doing this, the assassin would be guarranteed a place in heaven with a few dozen tramps and an endless supply of rot-gut!


Now we are talking


Wheres Venezuela?????



posted on Aug, 23 2005 @ 07:53 AM
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while Robertson may not be speaking for God in that one case, he does claim to be a representative of the Christian God and is a leader of people, many who do give his words credence. He should know better than to say stuff like that.

And no assassinating Chavez is not a good idea, regardless of who is thinking it. Don't you realize we're creating another Fidel through stupid policy and rhetoric. We should be doing whatever we can to build on relations with Venezuela not alienate them into becoming our enemies.



posted on Aug, 23 2005 @ 08:35 AM
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Originally posted by worldwatcher
while Robertson may not be speaking for God in that one case, he does claim to be a representative of the Christian God and is a leader of people, many who do give his words credence. He should know better than to say stuff like that.

And no assassinating Chavez is not a good idea, regardless of who is thinking it. Don't you realize we're creating another Fidel through stupid policy and rhetoric. We should be doing whatever we can to build on relations with Venezuela not alienate them into becoming our enemies.


Absolutely! And, Robertson can't have it both ways - he can't spew in the media and then try to say "those are just my personal ideas" and then walk into the White House and offices of high-ranking Senators and Congressman and say "I'm here to represent the millions of Christians".

I also agree that while he may not yet have achieved the full blown mullah-as-terrorist-recruiter status, he does seem to be sliding in that direction. Still, so few American voters keep up with what's going on in their own country, never mind the rest of the world, that you can expect that the money will just keep flowing to him and his ilk - the same money that will then be channelled to the far-right political campains. The "Swift Cross Veterans for Back-door Theocracy".



posted on Aug, 23 2005 @ 08:36 AM
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This doesn't really surprise me, considering the source, I mean, he's obviously living in his own world.

But I'm a little concerned about people defending him. He's the founder of the Christian Coalition of America and he was a presidential candidate! He's a spokesman for the Christian Extremists and a 'high-ranking operative' of the Christian religion. He does NOT speak on behalf of himself any more that any extremist leader does. He has a responsibility that comes with his position.

This isn't the same as you or I mentioning our opinion. He addressed his followers on TV saying, "We should do this".



Robertson has made controversial statements in the past. In October 2003, he suggested that the State Department be blown up with a nuclear device. He has also said that feminism encourages women to "kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians."


He's a nut ball! loony-tunes!
What's scary is how many people across this nation are thinking, "Yeah, assassination... That's a good idea... And if Pat Robertson (who talks to God) says it's the right thing, then it must be ok..."



posted on Aug, 23 2005 @ 11:12 AM
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Originally posted by worldwatcher
I can't believe the things that come out of this man's mouth sometimes. For a good Christian he seems to enjoy praying for death and suffering of others. How would we react if another religious cleric was to call for the assassination of our president???


This is exactly the point. Other countries are not allowed to make any statements regarding the so called 'leader of the freeworld' and his tyranical and ignorant wars. Any call to assinate this man would be perceived as a call to terrorism.

Another thing - since when does the US, other than the CIA, who did a lot of damage there (Nicaragua, El Salvador, etc) care what happens in Central America unless it is convenient for them?

Btw - Venezuela is in SOUTH America and if Chavez wants to stop selling oil to the US and fight for the rights of workers in his democratic utopia why does it matter to any of you? He is an ELECTED official. Look at the puppet governments installed in Chile, Ecuador, Peru and Argentina. How many governments have collapsed? How many presidents have been assassinated? How much aid do these countries receive? How much of their natural resources are being sucked up and exploited by the US? Do you know or do you care about any of this? Or do you only care when the hype hits near home?

He is the PRESIDENT of his country. You have no right to ask for or condone the assasination of someone who is not YOUR elected official.

He is a man with bigger balls than Bush - so go and review your geography, your politics and your internal policies and stop worrying about what some Venezuelan president is doing in his side of the world because you didn't care a few years ago.

Worry instead about what this nut Roberston is saying in the name of christianity or whatever garbage he spouts.

Really - lay off the policing of the planet. Unless of course you are laying the groundwork for declaring war on Venezuela. I don't know why socialist governments are such a threat to you. I really don't understand.



posted on Aug, 23 2005 @ 11:38 AM
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I won't go into the obvious malady of one of this nation's Christian Leaders calling for yet another murder.....you staunch "Christian Conservatives" can sort your own house - or not.
But I will focus on the tried & true aspect of the NeoCon-hybrid-fascist model = staying on message from multiple sources, so that it becomes common perception.

Did anyone miss Don "Don't call me Dracula" Rumsfeld start skipping down the merry lane of calling Chavez & Venezuela a clear & present danger?

Rumsfeld faults Venezuela for buying 100,000 AK-47s

US Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld on Wednesday criticized Venezuela's reported efforts to purchase 100,000 AK-47 assault rifles from Russia, suggesting that Venezuela's possession of so many weapons would threaten the hemisphere.

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"I can't imagine what's going to happen to 100,000 AK-47s," Rumsfeld said at a news conference in Brasilia, the capital of Brazil, which shares a border with Venezuela. "I can't understand why Venezuela needs 100,000 AK-47s. I personally hope it doesn't happen. I can't imagine if it did happen it would be good for the hemisphere."

Rumsfeld appeared with Brazil's vice president and defense minister, Jose Alencar, who declined to offer similar criticism of Chavez. Alencar would only say that Brazil respects the right of self-determination of other countries.

Venezuela says its military has about 100,000 troops, plus 30,000 reservists. The US is concerned that the weapons are intended for domestic militias or foreign guerillas.

www.taipeitimes.com...

The sheer lunacy of calling the outfitting of an army with old weaponry....of a sovereign nation....with a democratically elected leader...a threat, is so transparent that the other figure on stage simply had to act like Rumsfeld farted & he politely "didn't notice".
Of course, via terroist felons like Otto Reich, the US has been trying to overthrow Venezuela for some time now.

It used to be that the Department of Defense planned for military contingencies, while the State Department engaged in international diplomacy. But no more-- which is another clear indication that we've turned perhaps irrecoverably from a Republic into an Empire...

In any case, Rumsfeld is tromping through South America, painting democratically-elected Hugo Chávez as a threat to, um, democratically-elected governments, or something.

Shorter Rumsfeld translation: Give us the god-damned oil.

And the presidential candidate preacher is back home burying the lines.....those between church & state.....those between moral & immoral....those between Christian and ChristConFascist.....and that used-to-be-thick-line-that-is-hair-thin these days = Sense/Sensibility vs. Fanaticism


On Chavez: Folks, get educated. There are folks making comments about Chavez as if he's some under demon in Hades.....he's not. We're fed a VERY slanted perception of him because of our interests in that country's resources & our on going tinkering with their inner workings.
It will take a Chavez in this country some time soon, given our current vector, to dismantle the oligarchy and restore the Republic.
Given the love of gun barrel diplomacy some of the board shows, I just can't wait to see their offspring forced into military service in support of this empire solidifcation.......the unsavory part is that we'll all suffer, not just these fools.



posted on Aug, 23 2005 @ 11:38 AM
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Well I got this littler piece of news by my husband he was the first to hear in the news and woke me up with it.

It seems that Mr. Pat thinks that he runs the Republican Party, anybody can call Chavez anything they want but I am sure he is no one thing and that is afraid of the US and President Bush.


Now that said lets go back to Mr. botoxed Pat, it seems that he has gotten bolder and more opinionated lately, for a man that blamed "God and American" for 9/11 I guess you can expect anything coming from his mouth.

Did somebody said he is Christian?
Yes he has a very difference and twisted brand of Christianity.

To think that this man onces wanted to be president, I wonder what his wish is today.

I bet that is to run the Republican party from behind the lines.




[edit on 23-8-2005 by marg6043]



posted on Aug, 23 2005 @ 11:41 AM
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Thomas Crowne called us Myopic. No name calling is allowed.



I think Robertson is ready for retirement. His elevator no longer reaches the top floor.



posted on Aug, 23 2005 @ 12:02 PM
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Originally posted by Amuk



Roberston is also speaking on behalf of himself, not on behalf of God, nor is he suggesting that in doing this, the assassin would be guarranteed a place in heaven with a few dozen tramps and an endless supply of rot-gut!


Now we are talking


Wheres Venezuela?????


You'd never make it alone; I'd better go woth you to keep you from making a wrong turn in Nicaragua!

Man, a redneck and a hillbilly off to do black-ops work in a country they can barely find on a map. That'd be worth the price of admission and an overpriced bag of popcorn to see on the big screen!



posted on Aug, 23 2005 @ 12:04 PM
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Robertson is a fruitcake. Where does a supposed "man of God" come across calling for the murder of another human being?

And another thing... he does not represent God here on earth. He allies himself with Charles Taylor for his own personal gain, regardless of the human cost in Liberia.

Where the hell does he come across trying to influence SCOTUS nominations?

Why do people fall for such a clown as Robertson? Can't they see he is nothing more than a charlatan?

I personally don't care if Chavez and Castro are doing the wild thing down in Havana, as long as it doesn't affect the US.

Don't get me started with these "religious" wackos.




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