Surely the only book you really need is the bible...

Well I imagine that the bible will be more than enough if you give it to the religious right.

But because it can not look "too religious" I guess they will bring all these self proclaim experts in the matter to under the strict supervision of Religious groups to chose the text to be used.

Occurs is money to be made after all.

The whole idea behind this whole ID in schools crap is money and business period. It's not about the religion. The real creationism lobbyists don't give a crap about the religion when push comes to shove. It's about money and what's in it for me.

Period.

I've just described the whole conspiracy. We can safely close down this forum now and focus our attention on more productive forums on this website...

Originally posted by TheBandit795
I've just described the whole conspiracy. We can safely close down this forum now and focus our attention on more productive forums on this website...


After all my hard work researching for this I will be very sad if you did.

But again you are right since the statements made by the president on early aug. the religous groups and publishers has been busy printing material for the new curriculum class.

It is money to be made after all.

Before you close it down, I just wanted to mention that I had none of these books in school and I still grew up believing in ID or Creationism because my parents taught me that.

I honestly don't think the ultimate goal is to teach ID, because people who believe in ID can teach it at home. I think it's to infiltrate the schools (and therefore the government) with religion. It's just one step in the overall plan.

Kind of like pushing the idea that killing a pregnant woman should be seen as killing 2 people. See, that means the 'baby' is a person and therefore feeds the agenda of making abortion illegal.

I think both of these 'steps' (among many others, I'm sure) are just part of the bigger plan to mesh religion and government.

Good job on the research, marg!

It's a joke People!!! And I don't own the place, so I won't do something like that.

But in a way I mean it. It's just one agenda, and they have people screaming yay or nay at each other for it. It's sneaky and it's also very selfish.

Once you're screaming at other people about evolution/no evolution; liberal/conservative etc.. etc... You are nothing but a pawn and a puppet that refuses to see the conspiracy behind it all, and who is having influence and power over you.

Are thy accutually teaching it in schools, im 13 and going into 8th so is my earth science teacher going to be teachnig this or is just a maybe???

Originally posted by TheBandit795

But in a way I mean it. It's just one agenda, and they have people screaming yay or nay at each other for it. It's sneaky and it's also very selfish.

Yes is an agenda but no only for the education system but for the Government also.

If you look at who is behind all these fanatical issue you will find the same groups and same people financing it, the moonies, Christian coalition and others.

This is not new it started since the 80's, but now they are pushing the issue.

silentlonewolf, yes that is one of the other books that will be taking in consideration for teaching ID in schools, now take in mind that this books has been around for a while, so it tells that these people has known that eventually the issue was going to be pushed and a compromised was to be achieve but the final ok came from the man himself Mr. Bush.

More importantly than what books will be used if ID is taught.....will the refutations of the basic propositions of those books also be taught?

Nygdan

Onces Id gets through the door of the school system we are going to have a wide array of books on topics that will span not only ID but also other topics in relation to science.

Everything will be challenged in the science curriculum and it will be plenty of religious group backed writers and "experts" to write exactly what they want.

You don't need to much brains or expertise when it comes to make your own study base on opinion.