Originally posted by FarFromDanK
thanks alot for your carefully put information..i have a couple questions for you
do any of these beings travel in flying saucers/spaceships?
You know--I really have no clue--I think that the 'Belial' spirits are literally earth-bound--I think they lost their 'flying' privileges when
they 'gave up their first estate'. More specifically, when they chose not to take the mandated route by the Creator (born first in flesh in order
to be reborn spiritually), thinking, perhaps somehow, that they could 'cheat' by remaining in spirit form and 'steal the inheritance' of the
Earth. I think that there are Belialian spirits and 'Sons of Belial'--the sons being the offspring engendered by the fact that these spirits are
I'm going to go pretty deep here. In Genesis, when Cain killed Abel and his lifeblood spilled into the earth--this is hugely significant--for blood
is the vehicle of the human soul--created by the union of the 'mother' source of the earth and the spirit-seed of the Father (the breath of life).
Remember, God created Adam from the clay then breathed into his nostrils making him a living soul. Well, when Abel's blood spilled, in the original
Hebrew we have some deeper implications other than just the earth 'receiving' that blood. Another possible translation of the word used is
'bought' or 'purchased.' [Genesis 4:10-11] This makes more sense, in the grand scheme of things. We (the human race) became purchased slaves of
death (which is inherently being entwined in the cycle of carbon based life/death/compost/life/on and on) and our soul/blood was trapped somehow in
the earth/flesh. When Jesus died on the cross, his blood spilled into the ground and this paid that long-standing debt and redeemed our human souls.
It also rectified the statement Cain made: 'Am I my brother's keeper?' He was! And he didn't guard his brother 'as the pupil of his eye,'
instead he let envy overcome him and take his brother's life. And Christ said 'No greater love is there than a man lay down his life for his
friends.' These friends He would not hesitate to call 'brethren.'
I could go on, but maybe we can a bit later down the thread. As for the question of UFO's--I live 70 miles south of Roswell, New Mexico. I have
always had a gut feeling that there was indeed a crash involving some sort of unknown life form in a craft not created by earthly means, back in 1947.
I have done a considerable amount of looking into those times, as well as some other significant events--such as the one in Socorro NM in the
1960's involving the policeman who sighted a craft and beings--on the ground and lifting off. I do think there is something to all of it--and I feel
sure it is connected with the Belial-types, the fallen ones. However, I do not think it is them, exactly--maybe something they somehow created or
caused to be for their nefarious purposes. If so, then I do think it has something to do with tricking the world into thinking that those earthbound
fallen spirits are our Creators and are up there, not trapped here among us with far less authority or future than they'd like to present to us.
IOW--I think that all this about the aliens creating us is a ploy by the Belialians to get us to pursue our source in the opposite direction of God.
I think they are doing very well with it, too, if that's the case.
I think that mankind is beset on all sides, in all possible modes, by this faction, for the purpose of fooling us into 'giving up our birthright.'
Those who reject materialism and power (Illuminati) can be had through religion (the worship of the image of the beast--who is man's created god).
And those that reject religion will be netted through this alien stuff. So a few fall through the cracks--the religious call them 'new age' and the
alien seekers call them 'christians', and the Illuminati disregard them unless they get in the way (then they are thrown in jail under trumped up
official sounding charges, like treason or insurrection--read up on the poet Ezra Pound if you get the time.)
You see--Samael tricked Adam into giving up the management (so to speak) of the world by getting him to disobey God. Samael had already lost his
chance, then stole ours through Adam. Or actually, predeluvian humanity. Our inheritance was won back through Jesus. But since the 'day of
redemption of the purchased possession' has not yet arrived--there is still chance, on some level (either their minds only or perhaps for real) of
this being forfeited, once more, by some or all of humanity. I do feel confident, however, that there is a fail-safe built in this time, and things
have been won even if they don't appear to be won. Perhaps it is the illusion of the chance which will be the 'coup de grax' in the battle between
the Belials and the Law of One.
I think if they could still 'fly' they would not need something as mundane as a 'flying saucer.'
and also are there other civilizations on other planets?...or is all this chaos just happening on earth
Not material civilizations--Earth is the third planet and the third dimensional battle ground. And the intrinsic quality of material existence is
chaos--order being the opposite.
Think about these 'opposites':
law of One..Belial
another question i have is about the human form..were did this form start,did it start on earth or is the human form..the original form of the
I think it was surely the spiritual decension into the beasts of the earth--the true and literal 'fall'--the fall from consciousness and also the
condemning factor in the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrha. It wasn't homosexuality that caused those cities to be judged as 'wicked' by the LORD
(not God the Father, but the LORD God whose name is I AM) -- it was bestiality! The word 'sodomy' is truly defined as such--unnatural acts in
also who is going to bring judgement to these sons of belial...will there be some sort of space war between the law of one and the sons of
belial ,also known as the war in heaven between michael and the dragon..??????
That judgment has already taken place, actually. Once more 'Cain' killed 'Abel'--the 'tender of the field' hung the 'keeper of flocks' on the
cross--crucified in humiliation like a common criminal. And in doing this, went from probationary status to the status of actually judged.
Right before the crucifixion, Christ tells the disciples:
Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my
Father is greater than I.
And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.
Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.
Then, a bit later:
Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I
depart, I will send him unto you.
And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
Of sin, because they believe not on me;
Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;
Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.
I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
In Luke, we find:
And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.
And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.
Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.
The power was manifested and Satan lost his place above--his 'first estate.' And at the moment the wheels were set in motion for the crucifixion
(on the earthly level/plane, that is--above it was always going to be) Satan's probation was violated and he was judged as guilty.
Ironically enough, he was then allowed to carry on, in full force (in the form of christianity), the same spirit of religious observance of God (as
opposed to true obedience and adoration/worship) that led to the envy at the root of the first murder. Cain worshipped God as he saw fit--now as was
seemly to God--Abel, though, truly sacrificed to God (giving one of his living flock--whereas Cain gave of the crop that was God's in the first
place--no sacrifice to him and no offering to God.) and Cain is the father of religion, lies, and murder. The 'mark' so many fear from the
'antichrist' is also directly rooted back to Cain and his exile to Nod. [Genesis 4:15]
is michael really melchezidek..i think he is
In a sense--yes. On the other hand--no. I'll save this for a later post--its really deeeep.
so jesus died as an example for us...our inner body is connected to god..and our physical body is connected to the earth plane
As an example, among other things--including the debt involving soul/blood/earth as well as truly forging 'the way.' By going first--and at the
moment of death the 'temple veil' was torn in two--this veil also represents our skin and the divider that, up until that moment, lay irrevocably
between mortal man and God the Father (true Spirit). And our true natures were hidden because of this veil--we were blind but now we have had our
sight restored....will we choose to use our true vision or continue to rely on our fleshly eyesight? That's the million dollar question.
was jesus really the only son of god?
No--but He was the first, and as such will always be the principle heir and 'head of the household,' so to speak. He is our LORD as well as our
brother and I think He is responsible both to us and for us. He is the 'first begotten from the dead.' He was the first one to complete the
mandated cycle of first flesh then spirit. And only by being fully invested with God's complete character/nature (spirit) could He accomplish this.
He was 'free of sin' because He was the first soul to understand Himself as inherently spiritual instead of carnal (fleshly.) He was 'sinless'
because He was free of delusion--this is why He alone is 'the way, the truth, and the life.' Because the pure spiritual path is narrow and only
through the route He forged (dying in order to enter true life) can we join the Father--only by believing that the resurrection was not a fairy tale
mankind can we release our minds from the chains of thinking death is a boundary instead of a threshold. We are to 'believe on His name' --which
was Yehoshua, legitimately--meaning 'I AM' (YHVH -- but NOT 'yahweh' that's man-made, too) 'saves.' OR 'the self-existent one rescues'. If
we believe in the resurrection, then we believe that God the Father is greater than all things and that is the real underlying message in the
bible--not christianity and not judaism but that God the Father saves us from death.
what does the term son of man mean?
Sometimes, in the bible, man' is indicative of angels, not humans... Daniel and Ezekiel were called 'sons of man' in their conversation with
those sent by God. 'Son', in Hebrew, means 'builder of the family name.' Son of man also means just that--a son of man.
And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the
This 'man,' this Angel--is Israel--'who prevails with God.' Don't confuse Israel with the Jewish people--Israel is an angel's name--like
Michael, Gabriel, Raphael, Uriel, Penuel, even Samael. 'El' indicates a manifestation of God--Michael being 'who is like God', Gabriel 'strength
of God,' Penuel
(same as Peniel
) is 'vision of God' or 'who sees God' (Penuel being the one Jacob was said to have wrestled with all night long
before receiving the new name of Israel in the morning--he had become 'who prevails with God.'), and Uriel meaning 'light' or 'fire of God.'
Remember many of the true prophets of God also had 'el' names: Samuel meaning 'asked of God,' Daniel meaning 'judgment of God,' and Ezekiel
which also means 'strength of God.'
There is tradition that says there is an angel named 'metatron'--but I personally have a hard time believing that as truth--it just doesn't go with
the rest, and God is all about order and consistency, without fail.
what about the winged dragons..who are they...the locust palgue of revelations..who are these locust who are coming from the bottomless
pit...is the bottomless pit a vortex..or stargate..and are the locust really the reptillan dracos..the locust palgue is an alien invasion..by the sons
I think that these must surely all be manifestations of the Belialian spirit--the 'seraphim' in the bible are said to be 'serpent-like
angels'--the reptilian nature is one of cold blood, remember--something which must borrow warmth from the heat of the sun. God is light and is a
consuming fire--therefore the 'warm' nature is of God and the 'cold' blood is of the earth.
why is jesus called the lamb
Because He was the Passover Victim--and the first passover was the shadow to His fulfillment on the cross. When the children of Israel came out of
Egypt, it represented the future freeing of mankind from the slavery/servitude of sin. If the blood of the lamb is on the doorway, the angel of death
passes over the dwelling and all inside are safe.
why are the 7 seals the years of 2001-2007..which means we are currently in the 5th seal(2005)
Who said that? The 'seals' in the book of Revelation represent God's outworkings toward the plan for rescue mankind. The four horsemen, contrary
to overwhelming popular belief, are NOT bad things--these are direct representations of both the 4 spirits of God (represented as the watchmen in
Zechariah) as well as manifestations of God's leadership of His people--the white horse represents YHVH, the red horse represents Christ, the black
horse represents the Holy Spirit (judgment) and the pale horse is the angel of death. The angel of death works for God, don't forget--every entity
ultimately is in God's employ--even Samael--what he did was for the purpose of our learning, his mistakes prevented our own. The 'saints under the
altar' are the prophets and apostles sent by God to speak the word of truth, then the 144,000 are those of true Israel, sealed right before the time
of silence lasting 400 years before Christ was born. The seventh seal is the final step in the plan. Remember on the cross, He said 'it is
And then, the great star falls and turns the waters bitter like wormwood. This
is Satan and the bitter waters are the waters of life, made bitter by the lies of religion.
the locust plague is in the sixth seal(2006)??????
I haven't quite got the specific symbolism figured out about the locusts--likely demons? I know that scorpions=death and serpents=deception.
The thing about the book of Revelation
is that it is told from the side of reality that is God's--not ours. And in order to somehow
communicate things of an intricate truth complete beyond even a point of reference to the human, carnal mind--certain symbols are used in order to
convey to our material minds these things of a spiritual nature. These symbols are consistent with both the preceding scriptures as well as what God
really does send to our mind (at least for me this is true, and I know God is consistent and human nature is also consistent, in its own limited way).
The things spoken of in that last book are 100% literal but are completely represented in a symbolic fashion. If that makes sense. They must be
understood literally, yet in a totally symbolic fashion. It seems like an oxymoron, but it really isn't. What it is, is amazing,
water=the source-pool of human life--not the clay but the liquid that can become blood (living soul)
(the water into wine at the
wedding is the transformation of mortal souls into sons of God/sons of man)
star=a 'prince'- a brilliant son of God
Numbers 24:17 I shall see him, but not now: I shall behold him, but not nigh: there shall come a Star out of Jacob, and a Sceptre shall
rise out of Israel, and shall smite the corners of Moab, and destroy all the children of Sheth.
heads='captains'--leaders of the 'host' (host=army)
sword=the word of truth
1 Peter 1:24 For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof
captivity=the mortal experience/human lifetime
beast=animal of flesh and blood (including mankind)
Most importantly, it is crucial to remember that on God's side of things, what we call 'death' is actually the entrance to 'life' and what we
consider to be 'living' is really 'dead.'