Far be it from me to interrupt my favorite sport, RINO hunting, but I had to jump in here.
Originally posted by JoshGator54
And to label him a "prospective presidential candidate" is just wishful thinking.
Grady is right. Right now EVERYONE is a potential candidate, and Chuck Hagel is doing the smart thing. He's distancing himself as far away from the
Bush camp as possible. He's recognizing moderate republican fears of a new Vietnam occuring on their watch.
Originally posted by JoshGator54It is just like all these polls we have been seeing lately with McCain, Giuliani, and Arnold as the
leading Rep. candidates. They are crazy, half of the people who voted for Bush think he is not conservative enough,
Nonsense. There are exactly 4 million evengelical voters who think Bush isn't conservative enough, and that's about it. There is such a creature as
a moderate Republican, and many of them are simply fiscally conservative and socially liberal. They probably account for half of your base, I
wouldn't be so quick to drive them out with pitchforks.
I mean, would you care to explain to me how conservative, further to the right than Bush, actually wins a presidential election in the United States?
If your logic were sound Pat Buchanan would have been a contender. So would Ralph Reed. So would Pat Robertson.
Certainly, that particular candidate will carry conservative states like Utah and Idaho and the deep south, but they lose Florida, Pennsylvania, Ohio,
Iowa, possibly New Mexico and other moderate states. They lose women voters, 18-36 voters, and if you were crazy enough to throw in the SS reform,
then you lose seniors too.
Go look up the word "Demographics", and then get back to me.
Originally posted by JoshGator54 thats what got him in trouble with the social security debate.
What got George Bush into trouble over SS, is the false notion of trying to change it in the first place. Social Security is the third rail of
American politics. Nobody, anywhere, ever, in the last 50 years, from either party, has successfully managed to run a campaign, or even a platform, of
major Social Security changes.
Senior Citizens, a major demographic (There's that word again) of the GOP, turned on Bush the minute they assumed that would lose 12 cents in
benefits. Republican politicans turned on Bush the minute they thought they would lose seniors citizens to Democrats.
Running in front of the Social Security Ball is guaranteed to end in nothing less than an unmittigating disaster
