There have been many books concerning handwriting and signature analysis over the years.

There are also many jobs (CIA, FBI, Banks) that utilize handwriting analysis as a reliable tool.

Consider that when you sign your name you are essentially putting all you think of yourself at that particular moment down on paper. You are signing who you are.

Do we incorporate how we percieve life when we sign our names? Can our state of mind be reflected and interpreted in our signatures?

From an early stage in life we are nearly all taught:

1) Up is positive, good, heaven.
2) Down is negative, bad, hell.
3) We read/write left to right, so left is the past.
4) Right is the future.

How much do you know about handwriting analysis?
Does where a person dot their i really relevant?

Consider this, and give it a try with people around you:

Were people taught that the first letter of their last name carries through to the second letter?

In other words, when a person signs their last name, does it carry through, or did they lift the writing utensil and put it back down on the paper to finish their name?

9 times out of 10, if a person signs their family name/surname/last name, and their is a break in their name, then they come from a broken home.

In other words:
If their last name should carry through, uninterupted, but doesn't ....
The odds are they come from a broken home.

Give it try, look at how the people in your life sign their name.

I wonder how much more you could know about a person, simply by "reading" their handwriting or signature ......

It's an interesting point.

However, my signature is messy, and always different to some extent due to it's unorginization. It's no neat signature. does this mean I'm thick, or does it hold some other meaning...

Big letter in your signature and big signature usually means big ego slant of handwriting can deterimine optimism and negativity and sloppy illegible handwriting can indicate a streak of individuality and also a sense of arrogance. Small handwriting can mean uptight, neat, organised, anal...

As for deviant, criminal behaviour, I think usually experts are looking at other things like slashes, dots, underlines and other marks as troubled ppl tend to have this in their writing.

I'm not an expert but we had a person come to one of my courses and she did a reading of some of our handwriting samples. Was kind of fun as she didn't know us - she read us and then the class had to deterimine whether she was on track or not. Those are the ones I remember off the top of my head.

Originally posted by nikelbee
Big letter in your signature and big signature usually means big ego slant of handwriting can deterimine optimism and negativity.........

I've read that in a few books. Although left handed people tend to have their tops of letters further to the left, it is said that letters that lean towards the left indicate an individual may have difficulties keeping up with the changes in their lives, and in worse case scenarios: may be suicidal.

Also, where a person dots their i, j, etc, is an indicator if they think more about the past, future, or the "here and now"

Yeah..interesting picture there.

The only thing I ever look for when checking out a person's handwriting is violent slashes or dots mashed into the page. Anyone with that much pent up agression is a ticking time bomb, and I don't want to be around them when they go off.

Then again..Ted Bundy's handwriting looked normal, the only clue to his anger was a heavily crossed lower case 't', and these things called resentment lines off the back of some of his letters...all his other letters were light and rounded, gentle curves, totally unbeffiting a man who can murder 30+ women.



On a lighter note, check out Paris Hilton's signature for a clue as to the size of her ego. The 'P' looks engorged, easily 4 times larger than the next letter, it's insane. So, sometimes this stuff is right on.

Interesting field, though I get the impression that the interpretations are a bit slap-dash, a bit manufactured. The depths of a person can never be known, not to the world, not to their loved ones, not even to themselves. There's a lot going on in our heads, way too much for a simple signature to reveal.

[edit on 21-8-2005 by WyrdeOne]

Excellent Thread Esoteric...Im glad you started this

Very interesting timeline in that Hitler link. You can really see the degradation in his mental state, all the way up till '45, when his signature is little more than a blob of ink. Very cool to see the connection.

Good link, thanks for posting it.

WyrdeOne

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Thanks for the input!!

If you look at my previous posts I did mention down is negative.

Look at Ted's loops below the "baseline"!!

His lowercase y's and loops that fall below, sometimes even fall below the writing of the line under it!!

Huge negative baggage.

Interesting, very interesting.

Also the consistant way it rises higher as a whole, also indicates a godlike status, as though he reserves the right to judge others with the pain he's endured or put himself through.

I'm sorry I can't remember the name of the book, but in the late eighties I read a book that used Abraham Lincoln's handwriting.
You could see reflections of his physical problems in his handwriting.
You could see how his handwriting changed from his lawyer days in Illinois to his presidency, to the civil war, to his son dying, to his wife being accused as a spy ......

My point is you can literally see the differences he made with his signature and handwriting throughout life changing events in his life. It was a great case-study.

I had an uncle that used to do this for the government, and it was his stories that got me interested in the study.

There are different methods, and different interpretations, and it is not always 100 % correct, but my personal experiences tell me the odds are good that I'm seldom far off center. Although, I do make some mistakes.

For instance:
Sometimes when a person's parents break up when they are still 5 years or less, and they are now in their late teens or older, the last name does not have a visible break in it. Sometimes the pen has been lifted, then put back down, but superimposed over the previous digit. And, sometimes it just carries through, uninterupted, but pressure variences.

At any rate, these contributions are great!
I have an affinity for learning about such things, and you guys are definatley contributing. Thanks.

This is interesting the art of looking at people's hand writing is an old one and I can't remember what they call it, it is used in alot of profilers work when they research bad # like Spree Killers and Serial Killers that we like to guard ourselves from.

I've noticed that through the years that there are certain types who seem to share the same hand writing , there are different cerebralised somatics involved in how we write, not all the time though as that would imply that we are nothing more than stereotypes within a socialised human zoo!

I've wrote to quite a few people who all have the same handwriting, I must admit I am a snob towards people who make messy hand writing, it so emits a very dark undercurrent but then looking at how I engage my Grammar and my English I don't execute a very good grasp of how to properly apply the art of the English Language.

Has anyone ever studied Art Brut or the Hand Writing of say Serial Killers or Dictators, they imply quite different styles. There is something to Graphology or Graphonomy, alot of people use it before they go on dates - it would probablly tell alot about someone's personality at that stage of time.

I would hesiate that you could fake graphology if you were apt to its models and methods just as people can fake through Lie Detector Tests by using Eye Accessing Cues and Biofeedback (like wiggling their toes or relaxing or thinking of contrary things).

Now Hitler was an interesting Special Needs Case, he was Psychotic due to his Amphetamine and Mescaline Uptake. He saw daemons and was said to lose it by banging on the floor maybe to Banish his Daemons. He was also said to have an Incestuos Relationship with his Niece I think, and have affairs.

At that time the top echelon of the WW2 Nazi's were so Doped Up by their own Doctor's (half the elite were on Speed or Herion) that Psychosis reigned supreme as it always does in Fascist Dictatorships, esp the Military Junta's.

I never read much about Ted Bundy to me he refected the Darkside of the American Yuppie Dream, in a way "American Psycho" may have captured this Zeitgeist.

Have you ever forged Hand Writing like when you have to, it is almost like invoking that person when you attempted to take time off school all those years ago, I've done it I'm sure others have. I must admit we seem to copy alot of out hand writing styles from our parents and peers at school. You can model your hand writing on others you want to synch in with.

People who write with small handwriting tend to have one or more of the following personality traits:

1) Conservative (like to save paper at least)
2) Intelligent (more information crammed in the same area)
3) Humility (view people and ideologies as grander than themselves)

I thought i would pull this thread out of the bowels for another go-around.

Many years ago I had a class in handwriting analysis... The details have fogged with time, but some basic principles I recall.

You really cannot tell very much from just one signature. Most people have a canned signature that is written by rote, as if your hand is already trained in the movements. A quick signature alone is of little value. Some experts claim you can tell something, but they are just shooting from the hip.

It takes a larger handwriting sample. And as the first post said, it only indicates your thoughts and feelings at the moment it was written. If you had a fight with your spouse that morning your writing will be slightly different than if you had a pleasant morning. So to have any measure of accuracy you need several samples over a period of days. You also have to allow for overall health and any physical limits. An old broken finger that did not heal right can effect your writing, as well as arthritis, carpal tunnel, COPD, or a host of other conditions.

It is still a less exact science than you see on TV.