Well Mr. seeker of truth i had relagated myself to ignoring you. However since you called me a coward in another thread, i have to make sure to not
give you that impression again. Don't get me wrong, i don't mind the debate but when you start out belittling people who don't share your
world-view or pretend to be something you're not i usually go the other way. I was civil and courteous with my posts prior to dealing with you, or
so i thought, but you went on the attack..., so here we are.
(maybe have only one glass of Hater-ade in the morning with your cheerios...just a thought, unless you're usually foaming at the mouth?)
Originally posted by truthseeka
First off, your tree doesn't include dogs anywhere in it. It also doesn't include the canines that artificial selection on foxes will give rise to
(a team of researchers has attempted to reproduce the artificial selection that produced dogs from wolves using foxes. After many generations, they
have produced descendants of foxes that, similar to dogs, exhibit pedomorphism, exhibit phenotypic variation not seen in wild foxes, exhibit tail
curling, which is also not seen in wild foxes. Thus, these organisms (fogs, I guess:lol are showing traits similar to that in the domestic dog.
First off it's not my
tree but, whatever let's see what the site i linked too
has to say about the common ancestry of dogs. Of course
i'm sure you didn't go ranting without checking the source. I mean how ridiculously ignorant would that be? Not you, not a "truthseeka", i just
can't believe that. Let's go check eh.
To reiterate, all non ATS quotes will be from the source i originally linked (u.n.o.) for the poster who was looking for an example of evolution in
creationism...(it's their "tree" after all, but you knew that obviously)
Ok dogs(canines), what do "they" say:
Within the mammalian families, such as the canine, you have sub-groups of species called genus. There are many species of fox, many species of wolves,
and many of coyotes. Microevolution is the small changes which occur within a fox population, and even fox speciation. However, it is macroevolution
which is used to define the long term development that eventually produces groups of uniquely canine species. For our purposes; macroevolution is the
entire evolutionary history of any kind.
Even gave ya a pic ('cause Lord knows you won't check the source for yourself), perhaps you misunderstood what you were looking at, i hope i've
cleared that up for you. That site, nwcreation.net and yes even Rren, believe that dogs and wolves share a comon ancestry.... let's move on shall
Moreover, the jackal branch should be placed near the wolf and coyote branch, as these are wolf-like canids.
"near" the wolf and coyote branch", got a link or a pic or can you elucidate on what you mean by "near"(that makes the "tree" i posted
inaccurate). I looked through the canine phylogenetic trees online (non-creationist sources) and well l'm not following you here or seeing your
point, could be me though...admittedly.
And, the most laughable part is that hyenas are even included. They're more closely related to cats than dogs.
I thought that DNA studies showed that dogs "branched" off from wild canids like hyenas, coyotes, jackals, wolves etc. I'm no expert so i'm not
arguing here but asking, are you saying that hyenas and coyotes do not share a common ancestry? (perhaps lineage is a better term there).
My fault, but don't post ridiculous phylogenetic trees like that. My bad, that's not even a phylogenetic tree; it looks like a tree some
creationist made up...
You really come across as a tool guy...just FYI you might want to work on your people skills. I didn't write that phylogenetic tree nor would i
that i could. The poster asked about evolution from a Biblical standpoint and i used that source to show him/her that.
- If that's what you need to do in order to make a point or make yourself feel intelligent, you may
want to consider the myprepubecentmusings.com forum boards if there is such a place. Either way i'm done with ya...good day sir.
Oh i see skep is doing another hit and run on an origins thread. Skep meet truthseeka i have a feeling you guys will become fast friends.