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space has the properties that it can be warped crushed folded and stretched by interacting with objects of large mass
yes it is it works perfectly which means its accurate, it was used to make predictions and then tested to see if it was right, it is its proven
Originally posted by spy66
Ok. This is just a theory from Einstein. Not yet proven.
can you prove that?
The only thing big masses can do is affect mass that already is within space.
is the earth bent and folded? the moon? you? apples?
It only bends and folds the matter not space.
everything is a theory atoms, gravity, becasue a thoery is a working proven model of whats happening, you dont understand the differance between 3rd and 4th dimensions, dont understand what a scienctific theory is but still try to argue them when you know nothing about them
Prove me something that is not just a theory.
why cant it? prove it with more then just badly and misued scientific words
Space cant be just a 3d dimension. How can it be that!
why does 1 dimension need all 4 when the very deffiniton of the dimensions them selves limit how many are available?
If one dimension has all 4. Space needs at least 4.
3 in to 1 are we talking about the holy trinity here?
A 3d dimension is just a reference between three dimensions within the one. So tell how space can be a 3d dimension.
how can that be? if space is still expanding how can it already be infinate? if it were infinate it would have no where left to expand would it?
The dimension space is infinite.
naaa im just gonna bombard you with qeustions and see what kind of mashed up dodgy logic falls out it will be more fun
Unless you can prove it to be something else!
yes thanks for asking how are you?
Ok.
And can you find one thing that dose not have all 4 dimensions. Length. Width. Height and Depth within them !
thesaurus.reference.com...
Main Entry: depth
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: distance down or across
Synonyms: base, bottom, declination, deepness, draft, drop, expanse, extent, fathomage, intensity, lower register, lowness, measure, measurement, pit, pitch, profoundness, profundity, remoteness, sounding
Antonyms: height
Main Entry: antonym
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: word with opposite meaning to another word
Synonyms: opposite, reverse
Antonyms: synonym
Originally posted by spy66
Man you dont even understand your own pictures.
and a cube is a 3 dimensional object
What you have here is not a third dimension. It is a cube.
why? dimensions are the lowest required amount of axis to plot out the shape
Where more then three sides are defined. So to have this cube you need at least 4 dimensions.
9?
This cube of yours has 9 dimensions thats including the depth.
its a cube which means all sides are equal really you only need to measure 1 side and all the rest are identical
You cant use that picture to tell me that, by having three sides you know the other three automatically.
not really you can do it with anything
You can only do that if the matter has a existing shape. Like you used this cube.
How many dimensions dose a ball have! With your theory you should only be able to draw a circle.
why?
And nothing else. Because what do you have to do to give it depth like a ball. Your going to have to ad at least one more dimension to the three.
ill show you mine if you show me yours
Originally posted by spy66
I would really like to see that 3d thing of yours. In real life.
no if its just a flat image without depth its 2 dimensional
Because if this thing of yours dont have at least 4. it will just be a picture on your screen.
a piece of paper is 3 dimensional but can be used to represent 2 dimensional shapes but it is still really 3 dimensional just like everything else, its called pretending so children can start to understand the concept
Can paper just be 3d. Length. Height and Width!
no
How do you determine the real shape of that piece of paper!. How do you determine the other sides! Dont you need more information.
did you even attend school?
Meaning dimensions lol.
no its a measurement of the maximum possibe volume that shape could take up if placed inside a grid
You cant do that unless you have the piece of paper in you hand right.
Meaning a dimension is just a shape of a matter.
no youve been saying 3 dimensional objects are really 4 dimensional and they arnt becasue 4 dimensional objects can only exist like 2 dimensioanl objects in theoretical maths not in the really real world
That is all you have shown me to this point. And that is what i have been trying to tell you.
not until you show me how a cube is 4 dimensional using but length width depth and height but also some how 9 dimensional at the same time
So how do you know that space is 3d. can you show me that with a good picture as well!
en.wikipedia.org...
Three-dimensional space is a geometric model of the physical universe in which we live. The three dimensions are commonly called length, width, and depth (or height), although any three mutually perpendicular directions can serve as the three dimensions.
In physics, our three-dimensional space is viewed as embedded in 4-dimensional space-time, called Minkowski space (see special relativity). The idea behind space-time is that time is hyperbolic-orthogonal to each of the three spatial dimensions.
a dot isnt a dimension
Originally posted by spy66
But just to break the news to you. A 3d has all 4 dimensions. A 3d must have at least 4 dots. Draw them up and see for your self. So its actually a 4d and not a 3d.
no a simple dot theoretically is 0 dimensions as an infinatley small dot requires no measuremnet(its theoreticall too)
You need 4 dots to complete the 3d's. And one dot is a dimension in it self.
what infinate dimension? dimensions are man made constructs to help us understand the universe there are not infinate dimensions of space as we have not created them
within the infinite dimension.
well i can understand dimensional axis better then 8 year olds so as yet your not telling me anything except you dont understand it
Maybe this will tell you something because nothing else dose.
no they are measurments required to calculate the maximum possable volue the object could fill in a grid
The 3d's are just the lines between the dimensions. And as i told you before. They are a reference to the other dimensions.
none ffs
Now can you ell me what dimension space is! LoL
en.wikipedia.org...
In physics
Spatial dimensions
A three-dimensional Cartesian coordinate system.Classical physics theories describe three physical dimensions: from a particular point in space, the basic directions in which we can move are up/down, left/right, and forward/backward. Movement in any other direction can be expressed in terms of just these three. Moving down is the same as moving up a negative amount. Moving diagonally upward and forward is just as the name of the direction implies; i.e., moving in a linear combination of up and forward. In its simplest form: a line describes one dimension, a plane describes two dimensions, and a cube describes three dimensions. (See Space and Cartesian coordinate system.)
[edit] Time
Time is often referred to as the "fourth dimension". It is one way to measure physical change. It is perceived differently from the three spatial dimensions in that there is only one of it, and that we cannot move freely in time but subjectively move in one direction.
The equations used in physics to model reality do not treat time in the same way that humans perceive it. The equations of classical mechanics are symmetric with respect to time, and equations of quantum mechanics are typically symmetric if both time and other quantities (such as charge and parity) are reversed. In these models, the perception of time flowing in one direction is an artifact of the laws of thermodynamics (we perceive time as flowing in the direction of increasing entropy).
The best-known treatment of time as a dimension is Poincaré and Einstein's special relativity (and extended to general relativity), which treats perceived space and time as components of a four-dimensional manifold, known as spacetime, and in the special, flat case as Minkowski space.
no you listen your basing your god dun it isnm on the fact you know next to nothing about science but throw infintiy and dimension around like you know what they are
Originally posted by spy66
Noobfun. Listen!!!!
My real question is and was. Who created space.
you started the track i followed and then when it became obvious you didnt understand the dimensions your talking about i lead it that way inm the hopes you would realise just how much you dont know so to say with 100% certainty anything would be false
Don't go of track by trying to tell people what a dimension is.
we believe it was formed by the singularity known as the big bang, and no its not somthing from nothing its somthing from somthing becasue science cant yet find away to look what was there before the singularity and were honest enough to admit that and to speculate is pointless
Just try to answer my question. You can measure a dimension Okay! But what made it!
why should science waste its time disproving things, it proves what HAS happened and when thats compared to creationist accounts they just dont match
Because if science can prove creation wrong you should be able to tell us.
Because as the OP states Top Ten Scientific Facts : Evolution is False and Impossible. To prove evolution you first have to tell us this part. What created space and matter.
Tell us what the source is and where it comes from.
the creation of space has nothing to do directly with inhereted genes, random mutations in the genetic code, natural selection or speciation
Originally posted by spy66
Thanks for a good answer noobfun. I really liked this one.
the creation of space has nothing to do directly with inhereted genes, random mutations in the genetic code, natural selection or speciation
Okay so you imagine you can have matter and life without space is that what your telling us! That's quite fascinating and new to me
as the universe is essenially and expanding sphere all 3 maxiumum point measurements are that same, becasue of the speed of light its impossible to be 100% accurate but we can work out the minimum size it could be, its over 156 billion light years across but that only accounts for 90% of the universes age so it will be larger were just not sure how much larger
Can i ask you how big the dimension space is. Since you can measure it by 3d ! Can you tell me how big the three D's are!
a little over 156 billion light years
Since it ain't infinite as you tell me. You must have the numbers
why must i?
If space ain't infinite you must know what's on the outside of space. I would like to know what that could be
what a silly statement
Whats the difference between Who and What. If not just a name. I call Who or What for God like most people do. What do you call Who or What! Science!!!
becasue theres STILL no evidence for one
If you dont know any of this how can you deny a creator!
the absurdity
Originally posted by spy66
I just see you trying to win a argument at all cost.
well i know about it and i know what we dont know aout it and the internet links show just how little you do know about it
And you try to lecture me on something you know nothing about by using Google. That's about it.
becasue it isnt
You have not come up with one solid explanation to anything that i have asked for. You dont even see that your dimension crap is a formula for matter.
Even thou you showed it with images and even a YouTube video. You dont know the difference between space and matter. That's about all you have proven so far.
You dont know more about science then you know about God.
Originally posted by spy66
If you draw a circle. And put a Dot on the top of it. And one Dot in the middle. And one at 90 degrees of the center and top. You have a 3d. But to get the depth you need to put in one more. So if you put in one more Dot 90 degree of the top and center Dot. You get Depth. And walla 4 dimensions.
Originally posted by spy66
How many dimensions dose a ball have! With your theory you should only be able to draw a circle. And nothing else. Because what do you have to do to give it depth like a ball. Your going to have to ad at least one more dimension to the three.