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Originally posted by goose
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Where is a link with a direct quote of her saying it? I think your opinions about her are based on misinformation. It can be plastered all over the tv and media but if no one has a direct quote of her saying it then I have to believe her when she says she did not say it. Where is the proof?
In her speeches and writings, Sheehan is direct and often blunt, a characteristic that has been noted by observers on both the left and right, and which Sheehan herself does not deny.[13]
There is controversy over an e-mail that Sheehan sent to ABC's Nightline allegedly containing various comments about Israel. A version of the email was posted to the "bullyard" Google group by "Tony" on March 18, 2005. [14] which allegedly states Casey "was killed for lies and for a PNAC Neo-Con agenda to benefit Israel" and he "joined the Army to protect America, not Israel." Sheehan claims that the email was modified by James Morris to support his own personal agenda. [15] [16] However, James Morris denies altering the email before sending it along to Nightline. And two other individuals, Tony Tersch and Skeeter Gallagher, received a copy of Sheehan's email directly from her. It was Tersch who posted the email he received to the "bullyard" Google group. [17] Sheehan gave a speech to the Veterans for Peace convention stating, "You get America out of Iraq, you get Israel out of Palestine".
You get America out of Iraq, you get Israel out of Palestine
Originally posted by goose
I am well aware that the There are a lot of mothers who have lost sons in this war joining her and many people speaking out against this war and have been from the beginning and their only agenda has been to stop the war. And all those who have spoken out from the beginning have been proven right. [edit on 21-8-2005 by goose]
Originally posted by Ox
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So.. That brings up this then, How many people (And you know I'm right on this) went and signed up for military service AFTER 9/11? quite a few.. Knowing that they were going to go to war.. Knowing that they were signing their lives over to a Bush.. ugh.. So.. I understand your very valid points.. I truly do and I'm agreeing with you.. But you have to admit.. That it's rather an absurd war to be fighting in the first place... There are going to be more and more extremists and terrorists each day.. just because of this war.... What is the world going to come to eventually?
Originally posted by Muaddib
Originally posted by goose
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Where is a link with a direct quote of her saying it? I think your opinions about her are based on misinformation. It can be plastered all over the tv and media but if no one has a direct quote of her saying it then I have to believe her when she says she did not say it. Where is the proof?
Let's get the full enchilada of what was said, what Sheehan claims and what she actually said.....
Excerpted from.
en.wikipedia.org...
I am sure you won't try to proclaim that Wikipedia is a "pro-bush" site....
Anyways, here is a transcript of what she said about Israel from one of the liberal sites...
You get America out of Iraq, you get Israel out of Palestine
Excerpted from.
www.veteransforpeace.org...
You can find it a bit further down half that page.
Originally posted by goose
I am well aware that the There are a lot of mothers who have lost sons in this war joining her and many people speaking out against this war and have been from the beginning and their only agenda has been to stop the war. And all those who have spoken out from the beginning have been proven right. [edit on 21-8-2005 by goose]
They have been proven right?.....about what?.....
I also know a whole bunch of people who disagree with Sheehan and they also had loved ones die in Iraq. i also know that most of Sheehan's family, including the father of the dead soldier said that their son was in favour of the war and president Bush, despite what some people keep claiming.
[edit on 22-8-2005 by Muaddib]
Originally posted by goose
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Yes I am aware she said that but not once does she say those exact words that her son died for Israel. You have proven me right thank you very much!
Originally posted by goose
As for being proven right that this war was based on lies read the downing street memo. And face the facts there were no WMD's found.
Yes a lot of people supported him when they thought the lies were true that there were WMD's and still sadly some support him because they see this as not supporting the troops.
The only IAEA visits to Iraq since Saddam kicked U.N. inspectors out in late 1998 have been two brief trips to verify the amount and status of Iraq’s declared stocks of natural and low-enriched uranium.[2] However, there have been troubling indications over the last two years that Saddam’s nuclear-weapons program has not only survived, but been reinvigorated. In a speech televised in Baghdad last September, Saddam told his nuclear energy officials that “the battle is your battle,” that Iraq’s enemies “will be defeated when their losses will be as huge as the gains they had hoped to achieve,” and that “the Nuclear Energy [Association] has a big duty in this field.”[3] Salman Zweir worked for 13 years as an engineer for the Iraqi Atomic Energy Commission before defecting to the West in late 1998. Zweir, who worked on the centrifuge uranium enrichment program, claims that Saddam recalled him and many other technical personnel to the nuclear-weapons program in the fall of 1998. Zweir refused, was imprisoned and tortured, and eventually escaped to the West.
Originally posted by Ox
You're right.. there was Unity in the USA after 9/11.. But every gung ho hill jack that had their daddy teach them to shoot when they were old enough to walk went out and joined.. There's nothing wrong with that..
Originally posted by Ox
but by fighting these "terrorists" they are creating more and more of them.. Would you fight for what you believed in? Yes.. yes you would.. and this is what these people believe ..
Originally posted by Ox
that Dubbya is nothing more than a common dictator.. which is true.
Originally posted by Ox
He's trying to steal these peoples livelyhood and beliefs.. which is true, by drafting a constitution FOR these people, and stealing their oil..
Originally posted by Ox
That's bush's agenda.. IF there is to be control and the USA IS to be the primary superpower in the world then dubbya needs these people and their extreme ways to FIGHT WITH HIM.. not against him.