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reply posted on 16-8-2005 @ 06:02 PM by suzy ryan
I believe the intent of masons on this forum is to belittle, insult, humiliate and scare anyone from bringing up any (even if only perceived by paranoid masons) anti-mason sentiments with anyone in their day to day lives. They don't have to know the person, their standing or achievements in the 'real' world to declare, to all who read these post, that those not pro-mason are mental, crazy, foolish, stupid etc. while demanding that people accept that they can and should be believed BECAUSE they are masons. Masons will always have generations of pro-mason books to throw at all who are only begining to question the true merits and purpose of this secret society. They troll for any anti-mason material and attack it as not credible, something only uneducated fools would even concider, let alone believe. They hijack threads with seriously legitimate subjects, like stopping organised child sex ring, and turn them into, pity the poor misunderstood mason, 'discussions' because how they feel they may or may not be perceived is sooooo much more important. I used the word,paranoid, above because even those who declare they are not anti-mason get attacked if their ligitimate questions could cast any doubt about the innocent benevolance of this secret society, which makes them appear paranoid or geuinely having something malevolent to hide, which they, straight up and down, deny. This is just a concidered opinion of one person who the pro-masons have continually, verbaly attacked so I don't expect any pro-masons to waste their time responding to it as I believe we have come to the point of agreeing to disagree. I'm just warning any new peole to this forum, who can't take personal insults to be very careful of how they word their questions to masons.



reply posted on 16-8-2005 @ 06:18 PM by moonchild
Originally posted by suzy ryan
I believe the intent of masons on this forum is to belittle, insult, humiliate and scare anyone from bringing up any (even if only perceived by paranoid masons) anti-mason sentiments with anyone in their day to day lives. They don't have to know the person, their standing or achievements in the 'real' world to declare, to all who read these post, that those not pro-mason are mental, crazy, foolish, stupid etc. while demanding that people accept that they can and should be believed BECAUSE they are masons. Masons will always have generations of pro-mason books to throw at all who are only begining to question the true merits and purpose of this secret society. They troll for any anti-mason material and attack it as not credible, something only uneducated fools would even concider, let alone believe. They hijack threads with seriously legitimate subjects, like stopping organised child sex ring, and turn them into, pity the poor misunderstood mason, 'discussions' because how they feel they may or may not be perceived is sooooo much more important. I used the word,paranoid, above because even those who declare they are not anti-mason get attacked if their ligitimate questions could cast any doubt about the innocent benevolance of this secret society, which makes them appear paranoid or geuinely having something malevolent to hide, which they, straight up and down, deny. This is just a concidered opinion of one person who the pro-masons have continually, verbaly attacked so I don't expect any pro-masons to waste their time responding to it as I believe we have come to the point of agreeing to disagree. I'm just warning any new peole to this forum, who can't take personal insults to be very careful of how they word their questions to masons.



Look, i dont know about the others masonic lodges in the world, and i wont guarantee what they do, but in those ive visited, and in mine, EVERYTHING that im reading here about masonry is wrong. We dont kill babies, we dont sacrifice virgins, we dont drink blood, we dont mind control people, we are not reptiles from the 4th dimension in disguise, we dont put fluor in the city water distribution system, we dont do ANY of the stuff that new age / conspiracist here are claiming we are doing.

It might be a question of understanding also. we might be doing ''black magic'' since we study and practice alesteir crowleys teaching, we might be doing demonology because we do have rituals made to summon entities. (like a moonchild is a sexual ritual intented to summon a sophomoric entity and it requires sexual secretions from both the female and male participants - of course we dont copulate openly in the lodge, after a ritual, we always go get a meal in a nice restaurant (in french we call this meal an agape) and those who wish to do it together will agree on it and go to one of the participants home.

Whats going on in masonic temples at night? Here in montreal, the lights are always on, and since the temple is located downtown, i often see people getting out of the temple at like 2-3am, what the hell where they doing ? nobody knows except them. But im convinced they were not raping young boys.

[edit on 16-8-2005 by moonchild]


reply posted on 16-8-2005 @ 06:33 PM by The Axeman
Originally posted by moonchild
we might be doing ''black magic'' since we study and practice alesteir crowleys teaching, we might be doing demonology because we do have rituals made to summon entities. (like a moonchild is a sexual ritual intented to summon a sophomoric entity and it requires sexual secretions from both the female and male participants - of course we dont copulate openly in the lodge, after a ritual, we always go get a meal in a nice restaurant (in french we call this meal an agape) and those who wish to do it together will agree on it and go to one of the participants home.


That is quite possbly the most ludicrous thing I have ever seen/heard a "Mason" say. I still don't believe you are what you claim to be, and your posts do nothing but solidify that idea in my mind.

Whats going on in masonic temples at night? Here in montreal, the lights are always on, and since the temple is located downtown, i often see people getting out of the temple at like 2-3am, what the hell where they doing ? nobody knows except them. But im convinced they were not raping young boys.


What's all this "they" this and "they" that? I would think, if you are a Mason, it would be "we" this and "we" that.

You give yourself away almost every time you post, you know that?

Suzy: ... *sigh* I can't even deal with you anymore...

Originally posted by eudaimonia
My point is move all masonic threads to BTS (Religion)

As I see it, there isn't much of a purpose disccusing freemasonry here on Secret Societies when Secret Societies itself IS conspiritorial.

And WILL cause inflamitory responses.


Who died and made you Queen of ATS?!

Here's a thought... Why don't you go somewhere else, if you're the one with the problem?! All you do here is bash Masons anyway! Why, whatever would you do if they went away? Then you'd have no one to insult and nothing to bitch about!!!

[edit on 8/16/05 by The Axeman]


reply posted on 16-8-2005 @ 06:41 PM by senrak
Originally posted by suzy ryan
I believe the intent of masons on this forum is to belittle, insult, humiliate and scare anyone from bringing up any (even if only perceived by paranoid masons) anti-mason sentiments with anyone in their day to day lives.


suzy,

Nothing could be farther from the truth. Those of us (Masons) who post here, generally do so to attack the bare-faced LIES that are so often posted here, regarding Masonry, by those who have NO IDEA what they're talking about. For instance, those who claim that there is an official "Masonic abuse of children" (which there isn't....hence, to say that is a lie...hence, we defend Freemasonry)


They don't have to know the person, their standing or achievements in the 'real' world to declare, to all who read these post, that those not pro-mason are mental, crazy, foolish, stupid etc.


No need to "know the person, their standing....etc. etc..." A lie is a lie. As Freemasons, we're standing up AGAINST the lies.


while demanding that people accept that they can and should be believed BECAUSE they are masons.


Common sense dictates that an actual MASON should and would know more about Masonry than some random non-Mason with outrageous claims about it.


Masons will always have generations of pro-mason books to throw at all who are only begining to question the true merits and purpose of this secret society.


Yes, those books contain something you'll find hard to understand. The TRUTH about Freemasonry...not the LIES you're continuously spreading about it.


They troll for any anti-mason material and attack it as not credible, something only uneducated fools would even concider, let alone believe.


No. We stand up for the truth and against lies and liars.


They hijack threads with seriously legitimate subjects,


It isn't "hijacking" when they're members of the forum with every right to post here.


like stopping organised child sex ring,


Which someone LIED about and said was "Masonic" ...when it is NOT.


This is just a concidered opinion of one person who the pro-masons have continually, verbaly attacked ...
...for lying about Freemasonry.


so I don't expect any pro-masons to waste their time responding to it as I believe we have come to the point of agreeing to disagree.


Personally I've disagreed with your lies since you started posting them.


I'm just warning any new peole to this forum, who can't take personal insults to be very careful of how they word their questions to masons.
I don't consider anything I've said to you, on-line or by U2U to be a "personal insult" I told you then, and I'm telling you now, I SINCERELY believe you need professional help. You continually try to use this forum as a support group. It isn't.

Freemasonry is OFTEN discussed here. It's OFTEN lied about here...and it's ALWAYS defended by those of us who are MEMBERS and KNOW the TRUTH.

'nuff said.
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