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Originally posted by Raist
I just came across a mason site that says the only secrets in masonry is the pass words and handshakes. Is this true? that would mean you could openly discuss your rituals and let ppl understand the "evil" as it's termed behind them. I would assume that the rituals might differ some what from area to area is this correct?
Originally posted by Mirthful Me
Originally posted by Raist
I just came across a mason site that says the only secrets in masonry is the pass words and handshakes. Is this true? that would mean you could openly discuss your rituals and let ppl understand the "evil" as it's termed behind them. I would assume that the rituals might differ some what from area to area is this correct?
You'll have to believe every true Mason on this site, for it is exactly what we have been saying all along. How many times has a Mason offered to answer any question, as long as it doesn't pertain to modes of recognition? The sad part is, instead of legitimate questions, only half baked innuendo and outright lies are perpetrated (pick any Secret Societies thread to bear this out). the detractors of Freemasonry will dismiss this with a casual wave of the hand, as they go to any length to dredge up the most ridiculous assertion.
I now bid this thread adieu, for it is destined for the same fate...
Forthright Monkeys, not just for telling it all anymore...
[edit on 14/8/2005 by Mirthful Me]
Originally posted by Raist
I merely was asking about each individuals rituals and oaths. I'm never said That I didn't believe other mason sites. But this is the first I've seen one say that they want masons to talk about every thing except passwords and hand shakes.
Sorry I ask, maybe I should go to the mason hate sites from now on.
Now back to my question(s) can you (masons) discuss your rituals and oaths with nonmasons? Or discuss symbols? Is there a site that has all the mason symbols and their meaning?
Originally posted by Raist
Even this site will not let me look into rituals though.
I still have yet to see a sight that holds all masonic symbols and their meanings either.
The best I found in this case was George Washingtons apron. Every thing else shows me nothing more than the same 3-4 symbols but mention a few. Even the aprons of which I've seen several do not tell me what every thing depicted on them means.
Is there no site that explain these things? I've went through pages and pages of searches and found little to no imformation regarding either. After over 25+ pages in my initial search plus links this was the best I had found so far and it's not entierly english. If you have better links I would much like to see them.
Originally posted by Raist
I just came across a mason site that says the only secrets in masonry is the pass words and handshakes. Is this true? that would mean you could openly discuss your rituals and let ppl understand the "evil" as it's termed behind them. I would assume that the rituals might differ some what from area to area is this correct?
I honestly would think they would have more information on this as most ppl do not join things without looking into them first. At least I've never joined any thing without checking it out first, maybe I'm the only one who knows.
Is there no site that explain these things? I've went through pages and pages of searches and found little to no imformation regarding either. After over 25+ pages in my initial search plus links this was the best I had found so far and it's not entierly english. If you have better links I would much like to see them.
Originally posted by umwolves123
a VERY noble reason i must say. trying to find out more about what they belonged to in order to better appreciate them. you seem to have the basis of intelligance....if you wish for MORE info then just the web could provide. you could always goto a local lodge and ask the actual masons there anything you want to know...they would most likely be more then happy to answer them as best they can. i know that's how I became a mason. i walked in and said i was there to learn about freemasonry and the guy i was talking to said "sure but only after dinner." and they insisted i stay for dinner and talk and were extreemly warm and welcoming. (no i wasnt poisoned Trolls). and noone even asked me to join they just said IT it seemed like something i'd be interested in to sleep on it and come back and let someone know.
So even if your looking for information and arnt' interested in joining go down there, ask anything you want to know. i think you'll find something incredible there.
[edit on 15-8-2005 by umwolves123]
Originally posted by Raist
The one I'm refering to at the moment is to the right of the womans head just below the compass and above the ladder.
And on the alter here.
As I posted before it reminds me of the scarab symbol notedly the second from the left in this.
Who used it as a sign of spontainious creation or some thing close to that.
For instance the all seeing eye to masons is the eye of the creator or God meaning watchfulness (like God watching over) pretty much. In some areas the all seeing eye is also called the eye of horus, which in egypt was also called Udjat and was for healing and protection.
Originally posted by Raist
I just came across a mason site that says the only secrets in masonry is the pass words and handshakes. Is this true?
that would mean you could openly discuss your rituals and let ppl understand the "evil" as it's termed behind them.
I would assume that the rituals might differ some what from area to area is this correct?
Originally posted by The Axeman
However, let me give you a bit of advice from someone who was once in your very shoes... Don't look up the ritual.
Why? Well, while you may not think so now, I gather from the tone of your posts that you may well wish to bcome a Mason in the future. If you do, you will not want to have ruined it by reading the exposes and such.
Originally posted by syntaxer
Being Christian and declaring another human your Wishful Master might very well buy you a 1st class ticket through those proverbial fiery gates of hell...
Ya just never know huh!..
Originally posted by AngelWitch
It's worshipful, it is used as per definition #2 below taken from dictionary.com
wor·ship·ful Audio pronunciation of "worshipful" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (wûrshp-fl)
adj.
1. Given to or expressive of worship; reverent or adoring.
2. Chiefly British. Used as a respectful form of address.
Originally posted by syntaxer
Yes yes, and thank you for clarifying the definition of "worshipful" as though it provides justification for committing a blasphemous sin. Please, Let us all worship our worshipful masters and perhaps we'll be seated at the right-hand of our most worshipful creator?
Creator -> Master -> Slave?