Petrodollar Warfare: Dollars, Euros and the Upcoming Iranian Oil Bourse, page 1
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Topic started on 14-8-2005 @ 02:19 PM by Gools
William Clark won several web awards in 2003 for his article entitled "The Real Reasons for the Upcoming War With Iraq: A Macroeconomic and Geostrategic Analysis of the Unspoken Truth".

In this latest article he discusses the real reason behind the upcomming war with Iran.



Energy Bulletin
Contemporary warfare has traditionally involved underlying conflicts regarding economics and resources. Today these intertwined conflicts also involve international currencies, and thus increased complexity. Current geopolitical tensions between the United States and Iran extend beyond the publicly stated concerns regarding Iran’s nuclear intentions, and likely include a proposed Iranian “petroeuro” system for oil trade.

Similar to the Iraq war, military operations against Iran relate to the macroeconomics of ‘petrodollar recycling’ and the unpublicized but real challenge to U.S. dollar supremacy from the euro as an alternative oil transaction currency.

... Saddam Hussein sealed his fate when he announced in September 2000 that Iraq was no longer going to accept dollars for oil being sold under the UN’s Oil-for-Food program, and decided to switch to the euro as Iraq’s oil export currency.

... original pre-war hypothesis was validated in a Financial Times article dated June 5, 2003, which confirmed Iraqi oil sales returning to the international markets were once again denominated in U.S. dollars – not euros.

It is now obvious the invasion of Iraq had less to do with any threat from Saddam’s long-gone WMD program and certainly less to do to do with fighting International terrorism than it has to do with gaining strategic control over Iraq’s hydrocarbon reserves and in doing so maintain the U.S. dollar as the monopoly currency for the critical international oil market.

Iran is about to commit a far greater “offense” than Saddam Hussein's conversion to the euro for Iraq’s oil exports in the fall of 2000. Beginning in March 2006, the Tehran government has plans to begin competing with New York's NYMEX and London's IPE with respect to international oil trades – using a euro-based international oil-trading mechanism.

The proposed Iranian oil bourse signifies that without some sort of US intervention, the euro is going to establish a firm foothold in the international oil trade. Given U.S. debt levels and the stated neoconservative project of U.S. global domination, Tehran’s objective constitutes an obvious encroachment on dollar supremacy in the crucial international oil market.


Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


Make no mistake, when the Petrodollar and dollar hegemony are on the line history gets made and Iran is now in the crosshairs.
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edit: source link

[edit on 8/14/2005 by Gools]


reply posted on 25-8-2005 @ 10:28 PM by Jeremiah_John
Of course Bush and Co. would like to kick Iran's teeth in for their economic ploys, but unfortunately they can't do anything about the situation except get hot under the collar. Military options against Iran are very slim.

Overt action - no chances.

1 - Unacceptable to US public which already has grave misgivings over Iraq debacle.

2 - Inability to secure any semblance of international backing for adventures in Persia after Iraq WMD BS. They wouldn't even be able to get laughing girl (Rice) to try and make UN case for it.

3 - No forces. US military totally committed in Iraq and Afghanistan.

This only leaves the availabilty of covert action. However, covert action has its inherent risks because Iran can retaliate covertly against US interests in Iraq and Afghanistan to a great extent. Iran has more inroads with Iraqis and Afghanis than the US has, the borders are wide open for smuggling weapons and materiale and agents. Essentially, Iran is able to hold the US hostage in the region.

Dr. Strangelove (Rumsfeld) is already claiming that Iran is covertly assisting Iraqi insurgents by providing AP IEDs (are they really improvised, then? 0_o). Whether or not this is truth or propaganda against Iran is unknown. However, if it's truth it's essentially a small taste of what Iran could deliver to US forces in Iraq.

Analysis: The US would like to deliver swift kick in the pants to Iran, however they are unable to do so at this time. Iran has all the cards in the game right now and as long as they play them right they can write their own check.


reply posted on 9-10-2005 @ 04:56 PM by kilcoo316
Uhm, does Russia and China (definitely China) not have LARGE agreements with Iran for oil/gas supply.

They would be mighty pissed if their supply was interupted or terminated...


Link for Iran-China
www.atimes.com...

same from different source

www.energybulletin.net...


An article really looking at the whole political manouvering post 2001 with US, Iran, Russia and China:

www.wsws.org...

Well worth a read (read on past the first bit, its not particularly relevant)

[edit on 9-10-2005 by kilcoo316]


reply posted on 14-11-2005 @ 02:52 PM by mbkennel
Oil in Euros versus US$.

I think it would make much less of a difference than people believe.

The Euro/US$ currency pair is extremely heavily traded and is the most liquid financial transaction in the world.

If you have capital, you could as a retail trader open an account at Interactive Brokers

and probably put on 20-50 million euro/dollar trades with a few clicks. They typically show "size" of 2-5 million on each side (bids and asks), but they are refilled
very quickly so real depth is larger still.

If you are bigger, and have accounts at major banks, you can do a billion with a phone call and half an hour.

Seriously---if an exchange prices oil in euros, then somebody could, and certainly would, extremely easily come up with a synthetic instrument which includes the crude (in euros) oil future combined with a paired dollar/euro forward/future. Also, the US$ denominated oil markets, in New York and London, will still be there, and there will be arbitrage between them.

(A forward is a currency transaction which clears at a future date, instead of now).

There are lots of things to worry about with oil. The currency it is priced in is not relevant as long as it is highly liquid and universally available. Both dollars and euros work here, they are nearly interchangable.

Consumers whose fixed prices are in euros (e.g. european oil refiners/consumers) would prefer euros. Those whose fixed prices more closely follow the dollar would prefer the dollar. So far Saudi Arabia fixes its currency to the US$, so they prefer dollars.

The other argument that pricing oil here and there will change the overall currency of reserves that people hold doesn't seem to be major either. Private institutions choose currencies to hold based primarily interest rates (who pays more), and this is the primary determination of currency trends. Central banks have other, political reasons and they are obscure, but for the most part the current policies support the dollar.

Interest rates will have more to do with the dollar than the currency oil is priced in, assuming it doesn't get priced in Elbonian goatshoes.


reply posted on 21-11-2005 @ 06:24 PM by Gools
Originally posted by mbkennel
The currency it is priced in is not relevant as long as it is highly liquid and universally available. Both dollars and euros work here, they are nearly interchangable.


I could not disagree more. It's fundamentally about power and control and the way the American economy is built.

One needs to understand the role of the "petrodollar" and "dollar hegemony" in the world economy to see why a challenger to the petrodollar will have far reaching consequences.

Some easily found background:

- Everyone accepts dollars in their reserves because you can buy oil in dollars.

- Every country that buys oil therefore needs dollars.

- The fact that all central banks keep US dollars inflates the value of the dollar beyond what a "free" market would assign to it.


Trade between nations has become a cycle in which the U.S. produces dollars and the rest of the world produces things that dollars can buy.

Nations no longer trade to capture comparative advantage but rather to capture needed dollars to service dollar-denominated foreign debts and to accumulate dollar reserves in order to sustain the exchange value of their domestic currencies. In an effort to prevent speculative and potentially harmful attacks on their currencies, those nations' central banks must acquire and hold dollar reserves in amounts corresponding to their own currencies in circulation. This creates a built-in support for a strong dollar that in turn forces the world's central banks to acquire and hold even more dollar reserves, making the dollar stronger still.

This phenomenon is known as "dollar hegemony," which is created by the geopolitically constructed peculiarity that critical commodities, most notably oil, are denominated in dollars. Everyone accepts dollars because dollars can buy oil.

The reality is that the strength of the dollar since 1945 rests on being the international reserve currency for global oil transactions (i.e., "petro-dollar"). The U.S. prints hundreds of billions of these fiat petro-dollars, which are then used by nation states to purchase oil and energy from OPEC producers... . These petro-dollars are then re-cycled from OPEC back into the U.S. via Treasury Bills or other dollar-denominated assets such as U.S. stocks, real estate, etc. The recycling of petro-dollars is the price the U.S. has extracted since 1973 from oil-producing countries for U.S. tolerance of the oil-exporting cartel. [the US - Saudi deal]

Dollar reserves must be invested in U.S. assets which produces a capital-accounts surplus for the U.S. economy.

Since it is the U.S. that prints the petro-dollars, they control the flow of oil. Period. When oil is denominated in dollars through U.S. state action and the dollar is the only fiat currency for trading in oil, an argument can be made that the U.S. essentially owns the world's oil for free. -
source - several good essays on this topic!


That capital accounts surplus created by dollar hegemony is currently offsetting the record fiscal and trade deficits of the US economy.

All of this means that the value of the US dollar is artificially inflated because of the FED's role as middle-man in the exchange of goods for oil and something called Seigniorage (the revenue derived from the issuance of currency - not sure I understand this bit).

The arrival of a new middle-man to end the monopoly enjoyed by the US is a very significant event.

The US is facing a global shift in economic power which is why I think the timing of the announcement the stop publishing M3 in March will facilitate intervention of the Plunge Protection Team to try and prop-up the dollar.

Does this description sound earily familiar?


The Pound Sterling was the primary reserve currency of much of the world in the 18th and 19th centuries. But perpetual current account and fiscal deficits financed by cheap credit and unsustainable monetary and fiscal policies to finance wars and colonial ambitions eventually led to the pound sinking.


That was before the oil based economy took over our lives.

The only thing propping up the US economy right now is the petrodollar and dollar hegemony IMO.

Whether or not the US succeeds in maintaining dollar hegemony with the existance of a Euro based oil exchange remains to be seen. (don't bet on it )

Wars are fought for such power and control.
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