"Natural Cures" They don't want you to know about

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posted on Aug, 13 2005 @ 10:15 PM
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Kevin Trudeau, the author of this new book is single handedly blowing the lid off the web of lies and deception of the drug industry, food industry, and government. If you've seen his infomercials you know what i'm talking about.

The book is titled Natural Cures They don't want you to know about. it's already one of the best selling non-fiction books of all time and more and more people are finding out about the conspiracy to keep everyone sick.

This thread serves to pay homage to Kevin Trudeau for being such a brave guy for standing up to the drug companies and the government and being such a successful guy at it! I've read the book and it was great. I already know that the only way to be healthy is to eat organic and detox. That's the basis for everything.

If you've seen ANYTHING in the media or on any websites that are trying to discredit Kevin Trudeau. You need to know that they are people who are working for the drug companies, FDA, or FTC. It's obvious that these people want to destroy him, but Kevin continues to expose the lies of the "SICK CARE" industry.

Please i'd like to hear your comments about Kevin, the book, and the whole sick care industry conspiracy!!!

[edit on 13-8-2005 by Solidus Snake]

mod edit: all caps in title

[edit on 8/19/2007 by Gools]




posted on Aug, 14 2005 @ 01:39 AM
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Yes the 'sicker' people are the less they worry about the needs of others. It's a great social control tool, speading sickness.

I used to have a homiopath who quit being a pharmacist because of the ultimate harm done by the industry. He was so good as a homiopath that folk from interstate would see him and the best thing was he didn't milk patients by only half doing the job but would ask about the whole family, pets and all, and treat them all in the one consultation then you wouldn't have to see him again 'till injury or bad lifestyle caused problems.

Saddly he was so popular that after his 5th child was born his wife made him quit to spend more time with his family.



posted on Aug, 14 2005 @ 01:50 AM
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posted on Aug, 14 2005 @ 08:02 AM
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Though he seems to make a lot of valid points, Kevin Trudeau doesn't come across as very credible. I first saw him back when he was hawking Coral Calcium from Iwo Jima, and was intrigued but ultimately unimpressed.

There is something contrived about his demeanor, he's just too glib and convinced and reassuring, everything said validating his claims, no doubt about it. Smack dab a wallop, I sure am happy and excited about this!

His book has me intrigued again, and I agree with the premise that we are not getting full access to the entire spectrum of health enhancing remedies and treatments through corporate medicine.

I believe that just as alternative, holistic, and herbal treatments are somewhat ridiculed and discredited by the mainstream medical establishment in an effort to protect its vested interests, Mr. Trudeau's perceived weaknesses have been seized-upon to ridicule and discredit him.

We can't have people losing confidence in managed health (sick) care now, can we? Can't have them turning to home remedies. How did we survive before pills became big business? An apple a day? Chicken soup? Do we really need all the pills?

We all as individuals need to take it upon ourselves to thoroughly investigate all our options for care, not just what the corporate doctor orders. And not just what smilin' Kevin is hawking this year. We need to take back our right to lead healthy lives by making good, fully informed decisions about our care without the driving force behind those we seek it from being corporate profit, instead of the common good, like it should.



posted on Aug, 14 2005 @ 08:06 AM
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Please, please, please disregard with prejudice anything Kevin Trudeau tries to claim.

Do you know what his book is?

It's a book riddle with factual inaccuracies and (this is the best bit), there's virtually nothing in there about how - even if we believe his claims - we can help ourselves...but there are of course methods of how to buy his own products in order to follow "his" ideas.

"Trudeau has also agreed to pay $2 million to settle charges that he falsely claimed that a coral calcium product can cure cancer and other serious diseases and that a purported analgesic called Biotape can permanently cure or relieve severe pain."

Why would he agree to settle those charges if they were without base?

The man is a blatant marketing fraud (a clever one - that's not in dispute).

Are you aware that the book constantly refers you to a website to get the full explanation for various topics? Once you get to the website you'll find that you need to pay a subscription fee. $10/month or $400 for a lifetime membership.

Yeah, he's all about conspiracies.

His own.

(fwiw, this is not a new publication; it's simply an updated version of the bunk he published a few years ago)



posted on Aug, 14 2005 @ 08:22 AM
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Its true that some natural cures work better than those from the chemical industry.

In a visit to the dentist, he noticed that I had a problem in the left salivary gland, and after some tests it was appointed a surgery for the removing of what looked like a salivary gland turned into some kind of fossilized organ.

While waiting for the surgery some one told me about a doctor who had a "natural" approach to health problems.

After a visit, it prescribed a diet for 15 days, then he send to France the recipe for my medication, and said that I should put some clay from a nearby region in the affected zone in my face once every day.

After some time I noticed that the hardness of the salivary gland was reduced and noticed that the gland was working (we have two little holes under the tongue, from where the saliva comes fro the glands into the mouth, and the saliva only flowed from the right hole before this).

When I received the notice from the hospital saying that the surgery could take place in the next months (it was not an urgent surgery), I was already cured, and to this day I have never had any more problems like that.

But that does not mean that all people who advocate natural cures are thinking of our good, and it does not mean that all the doctors who usually prescribe chemical solutions to our problems are only thinking about their income.

The family doctor that we had previous to the one we have now would prescribe what I thought was the best, once it prescribed some medications for a flu and some chicken soup, but unfortunately this doctor was involved in some religion organisation and the fact that he could not be a religious leader and a doctor led him to reduce the number of patients he could see, and after that he moved to another city.



posted on Aug, 14 2005 @ 08:23 AM
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At first, I wanted to listen to what Kevin Tredeau had to say (I am a student of nutrition and have been for 10 years) and the more I read, the more he raised my ire.
He is a fraud.
There are many passages in his book that say (and I am paraphrasing) "this is what I do", "these are the products that I buy" and it sickens me. He talks like everyone has the money to buy giant household water distillers and rows of fruit trees in their backyard.
This guy has made millions of dollars praying on peoples ignorance and, in my opinion, he is no better than the companies that he is rallying against.
I bought his book in the hopes that it would expand my learning.
What it did, was make me realize that I had wasted $20.
And that coral calcium thing... what a joke.
Coral calcium is chalk, mostly unusable by the human body.
Inferior calcium only accelerates bone loss due to its congretation in the human body, the body needs to eliminate the inferior calcium so it draws good calcium from bones (and muscle) in order to flush the bad calcium out of the body.
If you ignore all medical research, and endorse/sell the product anyway, you are just as bad as the "evil drug cartels" and "corrupt government officials" that you rally against.
And I would tell him to his face, given the chance.
People need to understand that nutrition is not a joke.
It is the foundation of what we are as human beings.
Everyone has to take responsibility for everything they do and everything they put into their bodies.
It is no one elses fault but their own.
The information is out there, just look for it.
Do not rely on anyone to do it for you.
Keep in mind that I am not a doctor, but I do know how to read.



posted on Aug, 14 2005 @ 10:28 AM
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If you even have read the book (I don't believe that you could have read the WHOLE book if you say there isn't any info on how to improve your health) and do the whole body cleanses then you are undoubtedly are going to improve your health. Remember Kevin mentions "in my opinion" numerously throughout his book.

Kevin Trudeau was once a billionaire business mogel who has been in the boardrooms and meetings of the worlds most powerful people. How can you deny his credibility?! He is blowing the whistle on all the corruption that the sick care industry is putting on us. He is filing lawsuits against certain individuals in the industry. Just so you know, he doesn't accept any adverstising so that's why you have to suscribe to his site in order for him to keep his site up. He knows the dirty business inside out and in my opinion he's authentic.


The whole homeopathic and naturopathic belief is that you need to let your body heal itself, because it is true that only your body can heal itself. So when you bring up that Kevin is a fraud, you're talking about the lies that the government tell you to discredit him. Think about it for a second, why would the Drug companies and government want someone like Kevin selling natural products that will cure diseases--exactly they sued him and tried to ban him forever from infomercials, but they made a big mistake in letting him promote a book. The FTC is censoring information to be put in his book, so you literally can't complain about the book if you say there isn't the info you're looking for, because he's being told what he can't put in the book and if he does he will get sued AGAIN.

The most important thing you NEED to understand is that ALL drug companies are only trying to increase profit and that most of the members on the FDA committee are on the payroll of the drug companies! To add to this, you have the corporate media who rarely ever tells the truth. Once you realize that, it's almost impossible not to think that the whole sick care industry is a fraud and that natural cures do in fact work better than anything in the world. You can't deny that people are getting cured of cancer and diabetes because there is in fact people being cured all the time outside of the United States but you've never going to hear about them. Remember doctors are only taught to prescribe drugs and surgery, not cure disease.


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posted on Aug, 14 2005 @ 10:49 AM
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I don't even know where to begin.



Kevin Trudeau was once a billionaire business mogel who has been in the boardrooms and meetings of the worlds most powerful people.



Yes, yes he was. And do you know why? Because he spent quite a few years fleecing money out of gullible people who want to believe in a cure. What he's done is cruel, it's heartless and it's downright unethical.



How can you deny his credibility?! He is blowing the whistle on all the corruption that the sick care industry is putting on us. He is filing lawsuits against certain individuals in the industry.


How can you take him seriously? He's blowing the whistle on nothing. Filing lawsuits? Please. If that's a measure of credibility, then he loses by default - have you seen how many lawsuits have been filed against him? Let's not even touch on the false claims he's already made, and already settled out of court.



Just so you know, he doesn't accept any adverstising so that's why you have to suscribe to his site in order for him to keep his site up. He knows the dirty business inside out and in my opinion he's authentic.


It's this simple: He is more than wealthy enough to keep up a website. Do you really believe that he charges such exorbitant fees to keep his website going? Come on.



The whole homeopathic and naturopathic belief is that you need to let your body heal itself, because it is true that only your body can heal itself.



Try telling that to a Type I diabetic.

Try telling that to someone with chronic hypothyroidism.

Whether or not you or Kevin wants to admit it, there are just some conditions that cannot be cured without intervention. That sometimes means medicines. Sure, the body can cure itself - but sometimes, it needs help in doing so.



The most important thing you NEED to understand is that ALL drug companies are only trying to increase profit and that most of the members on the FDA committee are on the payroll of the drug companies!



The important thing YOU need to understand is that you're being taken in by an unethical, fraudulent, very smart marketing genius who has made millions from people who are too eager to believe a book that's full of disproven claims than actually research the reality themselves.


You can't deny that people are getting cured of cancer and diabetes because there is in fact people being cured all the time outside of the United States but you've never going to hear about them. Remember doctors are only taught to prescribe drugs and surgery, not cure disease.


Are you somehow under the impression that we're all Americans who've never been outside the country, or who've somehow never researched outside of US sources? I was neither born nor raised in the US. Regardless though, please show me where these people are being cured of Type I diabetes, using natural products? Or is the rest of world suddenly in on the anti-Trudeau conspiracy too?

You've never attended med school, have you? It's actually hard to sit here and understand exactly why you're taking the word of one - ONE - invidual who has a notorious reputation for making hoax claims, and in the same breath you're declaring that doctors aren't being taught to cure, and that all drug companies are somehow involved in a conspiracy of this nature.

That just baffles me.

Do you think smallpox was eradicated by homeopathic means?

Do you think the drastically lowered rates of gangrene (for example) are because of herbal supplements?

Help me out here - I really do want to know how you're coming up with these conclusions.



posted on Aug, 14 2005 @ 12:00 PM
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Yes, of course there are many natural ways to heal or aid healing in the body.
That is not the point that is actually in debate here.
What is being debated (from my perspective) is a man who has a shady past in corporate dealings, who just takes already (mostly) public information, repackages it and sells it along with his opinions.
I personally do not consider that "research".
I am in no way denying natural methods to heal onself,
however, you do not treat a bullet wound with accupuncture.



posted on Aug, 14 2007 @ 10:29 AM
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....I think someone here protests a bit too strongly......

I don't mean to make a case for or against Mr. Trudeau. I have two of his three recent books (they were given to me, I didn't buy them) and I do think he has been "misrepresented" a bit in some of the posts. For example his colon cleanse......he tells you "google colon cleanse".....never mentions a particular one, never tells you anything specific. He typically mentions an issue and gives you key words to find the info yourself. He is peddling information which IMHO alone does not make him evil - it makes him a good entrepreneur. He has brought together, in one source, information that is commonly available if you care enough to take a look. He releases himself from liability constantly with phrases such as "I believe" and "in my opinion."

To say there is no conspiracy or mal intent on the part of the FDA, FTC, and government. Wake up. Trudeau is not proving anything, just providing the dots for each of us to connect ourselves.

......and for the record, my husband is a diabetic and after consulting a holistic nutritionist was able to control his numbers and get off of the liver damaging medication (not to mention the fact that he already had liver problems - which his doctor knows) in less than two weeks time. Only problem is, the insurance companies can't bill now for the test strips, solutions, meds.......
.....and he's healthier as a result of the regimen. He was also cured from Hep C (oops, sorry the AMA says you can't be cured from that) by taking supplements. What a pity because the interferon they prescribe is so healthy for us. His specialist asked him what he was doing.....

Maybe I missed it, but has anyone mentioned Mr. Trudeau claims intimate knowledge of Area 51? Maybe he should do a live podcast, I never see him actually take questions or put himself in any position to not be scripted. I doubt he would do it.



posted on Aug, 18 2007 @ 09:29 PM
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I couldn't have put it better...with ignorance and without critical judgment, people are easy prey to these types of quacks...



posted on Aug, 18 2007 @ 09:58 PM
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It all boils down to eating right and exerciseing. Nothing in this world comes easy. If you wanna have a healthy body you have to take care of it and put in hardwork with exsercise.



posted on Aug, 19 2007 @ 06:06 PM
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I don’t know a thing about Mr. Trudeau, but I can tell you from personal experience that homeopathic remedies are best for just about everything but trauma, the one thing western medicine is excellent at.



posted on Sep, 25 2009 @ 07:28 PM
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I recently emailed this to Kevin(below). There is a war out there for our minds and he is one of its biggest profiteers:

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Kevin Trudeau,

I am glad that you are getting some truth out. I am just disappointed and upset with how you are going about it. I subscribed to your podcast and really enjoyed when you spoke about the truth. Then I heard you sell one of your products about every 3-5 minutes. I don't want to buy anything. I can't buy anything. I also heard about GIN. Great, a community to help all "truthers". I saw the monthly due and thought, "what a scam artist". Not really a scam artist. A very, very greedy person. You always talk on your show about how it is all about the money. You speak about "them" and how that is all they care about. Then you continually sell your products on your show. You look for more and more money. I don't get people like you. What do you have?... 50 million?.... 500 million?.... You don't need any more money. You could have GIN have a due of $10/month and never sell another product and your life would still be smooth sailing until you died. I don't get it. Humans are never content. You speak truth, but you are still no better than the "Elite". They are trying to get every bit of hard earned money out of us and so are you. If you really care about getting the truth out, stop charging us an arm and a leg for it. This world is heading for a collapse and you aren't helping. When you learn that it is NOT about the money, I may respect you again and you will do some great things for humanity. Actually, the more we get away from this money grubing, consumeristic society, the better. I have deleted my subscription to your podcast. May you gain more and more riches by just telling people the truth while us peons can't even afford the healthy food you preach about.

Jeremiah


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posted on Sep, 25 2009 @ 08:02 PM
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Originally posted by Solidus Snake
Kevin Trudeau, the author of this new book is single handedly blowing the lid off the web of lies and deception of the drug industry, food industry, and government. If you've seen his infomercials you know what i'm talking about.


I havent actually read the book but I did read this thread by mopusvindictus which is quite intresting.
www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Sep, 25 2009 @ 08:18 PM
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don't bet the house on this guy

he is exactly the reason real alternative therapies and medicines get a bad name and will never break through or be recieved by the mainstream

he is a snakeoil slaesman on so many levels


a man who sells gold and every fourth or fifth piece he sells a fake gold nugget will ruin his reputation quite quick,,, won't he????

do you consider that gold seller trusyworthy,,,,, probably not


the same is true with trudeau,,,,, he uses the same scam as extenze,,, acai berry,,, cash for gold,,,, sells you something hooks you into an auto buy program and then won't answer the phone
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this is only his latest scam






posted on Sep, 30 2009 @ 06:58 AM
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Originally posted by Tinkleflower
Do you think smallpox was eradicated by homeopathic means?


I don't think it was eradicated at all. I think the name of the disease was changed.

www.whale.to...



posted on Sep, 30 2009 @ 09:32 AM
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Thanks for mentioning my thread... I appreciate.

I do quickly want to make something clear, while much of what Kevin says has a basis of truth. I agree with those that say he sort of sells lies.

For starters, I have a background in health and fitness and an fairly decent amount of academic time in Micro bio and Pharmacology.

I also, went for Tests, lost and lots of tests.

I repeated many times in that thread there is no cure, any one cure... many people u2u'd me looking for an answer like what Kevin gives _______ will cure________

Now way

I knew what was going on in my body because I had blood work, heck I even had a brain scan done lol

I might have chose self treatment but I couldn't know what to treat with out actual tests. Couldn't have been successful...

How do you KNOW if your shrinking a tumor or not with no tests done? For sure?

Can certain herbs work on Cancer

YES

But 90% of people who go this route will die unless they know what they are doing

Why?

Because they got the cancer in the first place for a reason, if you don't identify and "know thy self" and then "change thyself' nothing is going to work not Medicine not holistic in most cases.

You can't say that substance X______ will cure Cancer

substance X with out the lifestyle change will not work because the cause will still be there... In many cases like my thread says there are overall things you can do...One I recommend is detoxification via dry sauna, purge toxins, heat microbes out of the body, Cancer is usually triggered by an organism, parasite, or toxin build up....

So you purge...

Whats next, how is the tumor growing?

Well obviously it's cut off from the immune system, dead tissue, lack of circulation something preventing the body from working right...

Mostly Exercise can help with that

But not if you don't get serious about it, a walk isn't going to get circulation to a part of your body that's clogged or lacks blood flow proper or has damaged tissue or infection etc.... You need to really go at it... Most people wont do that

Then diet, healthy, immune building...not going into details, but diet/lifestyle... sugars cigarettes these things have to go... and thattakes discipline...

THEN... Substance X can actually get to the Tumor or disease etc... and it's useless otherwise...

and even then you have to know if substance x is even good for that type of_______ whatever you have going on.

So what Kevin does, I don';t agree with it

The principal is there, that there are natural things etc you can do...

But I did them with blood work and knew exactly what was going on in my body and it was multifaceted on every level...

Diet, exercise, specific meditations... very specific supplements... detox...

NO MAGIC BULLET

I disagree... with the person who said you can't cure diabetes... I sure as hell did!!!!!!

But I didn't do it with "Brocccoli" lol, I knew my body, i knew what was going on, I was honest with myself and i put effort in a real way and made many changes on many levels...

I used the services of an MD too



To take a moment, I rant allot about Obama care in here

Not because i'm a nut that thinks Granola and yogurt will keep me alive, but rather because I don't want to be Mandated treatments, I like to PAY my doctor, I sometimes need to ask very specific questions, or want very specific tests or yeah even medications...

But where would I be without blood work... Dead lol

I think trying to simplify holistic medicine make certain claims is wrong.

There are many factors, you should work with the right doc...

Hard to find but they exist

Kevin offers Magic Potions...kind of... I'm not into that, it's complex the human body.

And frankly, it takes allot of work

I recommend detoxing super heating of the body, calorie restriction and other things like exercise, removal of much Carbohydrates and definitely sugar etc, etc... and there are supplements like Resveritrol and pomegranate extract I take every day...

But I offer no answer for everyone, it's sad, sad, sad... Doctors in America don't work hand in hand with holistic practitioners and lifestyle coaches etc for a full picture and simply treat symptoms...

But if your sick and you don't know what your doing you need an MD to help and even then if you do know, you still need to monitor progress via an MD

People that say... TAKE X and cure Fatal disease Y

NOT really... not so simple.





















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