Originally posted by suzy ryan
O.K. now I get it. ......

[YAWN]

C'mon Suze,

That's NOT what you started with. You made the outlandish claim that it was Organized Freemasonry, which is ridiculous.

Why can't you come up with something new. It's pretty obvious since you had to dredge this thread up from two or three days ago that the rest of us are growing quite tired of it.

No I didn't senrak. But I would like to know if all those year plus old threads shouldn't be responded to or if it's just this topic that has to be silenced. So I have a life between fighting my way onto the P.C., does that mean I can't review threads I was involved in?

Originally posted by suzy ryan
No I didn't senrak. But I would like to know if all those year plus old threads shouldn't be responded to or if it's just this topic that has to be silenced. So I have a life between fighting my way onto the P.C., does that mean I can't review threads I was involved in?

No suzy, it doesn't mean you can't "review" them. "Review" anything you like, but for the sake of the other members PLEASE don't dredge up year-old + threads and start posting about them again. Rule of thumb: if it's not on the first page, typically it's OLD news.

By the way, you've mentioned Satanic ritual abuse several times. I'm not necessarily sure it's a "conspiracy" per se, but I've done some research on Satanism and I DO believe it exists, so please don't think I don't.

What is NOT true is that organized Freemasonry is a part of it. That's the part I wish you'd not post here because Freemasonry and Satanism are two VASTLY DIFFERENT things.

...that's all I ask.

Thanks!

Thanks Senrak. Could you please add your belief that SRA does exist to to the thread, SRA, Real or Fake?, it's still on todays board. Thomas Crowne shouldn't be the only respected poster to help put an end to the "false memoury" accusations thrown at those who find the courage to speak out.

Originally posted by suzy ryan
Thanks Senrak. Could you please add your belief that SRA does exist to to the thread, SRA, Real or Fake?, it's still on todays board. Thomas Crowne shouldn't be the only respected poster to help put an end to the "false memoury" accusations thrown at those who find the courage to speak out.

Er... you might want to read senraks post again suzy. He say's he believes that Satanism exists, not SRA. I don't think that one necessarily follows the other.

Originally posted by suzy ryan
Thanks Senrak. Could you please add your belief that SRA does exist to to the thread, SRA, Real or Fake?, it's still on todays board. Thomas Crowne shouldn't be the only respected poster to help put an end to the "false memoury" accusations thrown at those who find the courage to speak out.

Just a question.

Do you truly believe that every single case of "reported SRA" is true?

Originally posted by suzy ryan
? Why are those who defend a certain secret society also so quick to state that SRA doesn't exist when they already claim to be unaware of it or the ORGANIZED CHILD SEX TRADE?

SRA and an organised child sex trade are not the same thing.

Why are those who have come across organized child sex abuse and simply want to raise awareness of it and THE CONSPIRACY TO KEEP IT "UNPROVEN" concidered by some to be lying just because they won't provide identifying details to an audience that includes some so obviously unsympathetic, insulting and determined to push the" false memoury" lie as their answer to anyone raising the issue?

So because I (for example) dispute SRA, I'm unsympathetic and insulting?

Suzy, with all due respect, are you reading the posts fully? Most people here will acknowledge that child sex abuse communities/rings exist. Ok? What's being clarified is the notion that child sex abuse and SRA are the same things. They're not.

More to the point, the issue at hand is whether there's a Government/Masonic/Satanic sex abuse ring.

It would be an interesting study to discover how many people who were part of the pedophile rings were also masons.

I recently heard Nick Bryant, author of the upcoming book (to be published apx. 4/2009) _The Franklin Scandal_ speak. He has researched pedophilism - a lot of it done by the famous and wealthy - for five years. The book can be pre ordered at TrineDay.com

If I can get hold of him, I will inquire as to whether he is aware of masonic connections
with pedophile rings.

Nice thread necromancy, dude.

If anyone can demonstrate any Masonic connection to pedophilia, I'll eat my boots.

The thread is a furphy. The whole concept is as ridiculous a false position as if I'd started a thread titled "Candlestick Makers' involvement with Pedophilia".

It's an insult to anyone with a modicum of intelligence.

Bahahahahahhahahahhahhaha.


Of COURSE the Mason's(not all) are molesting little children.

I mean hell, they tell us there is no secrecy behind masonry...but wait, you have to have known a member of the society for a year?


Bahahaha, no one knows about masons, and no one ever will. They spill out whatever they want you to hear. Bottom line, don't bother arguing with them about it because I've already had like...a 7 page argument with them. They state there is no Bavarian Illuminati *ANYMORE* when the sole purpose of the Illuminati was to be SECRET. Weishaupt RECRUITED masons after his start of the Illuminati. No one ever heard of the Illuminati afterwards, failed experiment or purpose reached?

Wouldn't be surprised at a large number of masons molesting children.

Originally posted by Revolution-2012
Wouldn't be surprised at a large number of masons molesting children.

Why wouldn't you be surprised? Is it:

a.) because there is some kind of evidence for it?

OR

b.) because it aligns with your negative prejudice?

I suspect it is the latter.

Originally posted by Revolution-2012
I mean hell, they tell us there is no secrecy behind masonry...but wait, you have to have known a member of the society for a year?

And what the hell does this mean? You have to know a member for a year for what?

Originally posted by EarthShine
It would be an interesting study to discover how many people who were part of the pedophile rings were also masons.

It would certainly be quite revealing, although I'm not sure how such a study could be conducted. One could probably find out if convicted sex offenders were freemasons, and if the percentage was statistically significantly higher than the percentage of freemasons among the male adult population then further study might certainly be merited.

Probably about 2-3% of the adult male population are freemasons - this would be the benchmark.

But why freemasons in particular? Wouldn't it be just as valid to investigate statistical correlations between pedophilia and certain food groups or additives consumed, or perhaps pedophilia and attendance at boarding school, or even pedophilia and interest in certain types of TV programs - all of which would seem to be more constructive lines of inquiry.

Originally posted by Revolution-2012
I mean hell, they tell us there is no secrecy behind masonry...but wait, you have to have known a member of the society for a year?

What jurisdiction requires you know a Mason for a year. The Grand Lodges in the US don't require this.