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reply posted on 5-4-2011 @ 09:07 PM by ilian51378
I personally believe that Bob is telling the truth. I have watched his interviews numerous times and I just have the impression that he is legit. Obviously, he is a physicist and knows much more on the subject than the average Joe. Also, one thing that I cannot recall is him saying that he has degrees from the above mentioned schools. I only remember him mentioning that he attended there... But then again, I might be recalling wrong. I just reason things a bit and it makes sense to me that he must have acquired that knowledge somewhere... About the ease of erasing his Los Alamos records, I assume it is easy and it was done as from Los Alamos they were denying that he was ever employed there, until the phone book in question came about... after that was presented to them, they strangely recalled that he had some position there! Now, I can imagine how easy it could be nowadays to erase someones identity in the computer world, but it would be close to impossible to track all of the paper documents and destroy them. That is where the culprit was, the phone book came out... Now, about the polygraph tests, none of the three identified Bob as a liar.Two of the tests showed he was telling the truth and one was announced to be inconclusive. To me that is good enough result to believe he was telling the truth when they asked him the questions. Lastly, I would like to mention that I remember watching some UFO documentaries and reading on the subject where I found out what other scientists thought of Bob as a true or fake physicist. As far as I remember, most of them said that what he is saying makes sense and they could not discard it as nonsense. With that said though, they also said that they could not confirm that what he claimed was true. In any case, those scientists could not discard Bob as a hoaxer! Anyway, I believe him.


reply posted on 6-4-2011 @ 11:15 PM by speed_demon
Felt I would add my two cents in this thread. As far as Lazar goes, I am up in the air. I would love to believe him, but there are alot of things against him. First, he cannot provide any evidence to prove/corroborate his story. This is very strange. There has to be something somewhere that would prove he attended these schools or had some sort of clearance. If he had planned on letting the truth out why did he not keep at least a small thing, a security badge, sliver or clothing. There are so many small things that would not be noticed if they were "missing". The fact that no one will come forward and he will not release any names is damning on his end. He will not release names due to the fact that those people would then be at risk, and those that know the truth about him will not come forward due to the risk involved in corroborating his story. As far as the technical stuff, I have no clue because I am not an engineer or a scientist. Wish I could understand how these craft he described worked because then we could all come together and try to build this thing. Why has no one taken on the task of trying to recreate anything he described? That would either make or break his story.
As far as the government not putting him in jail or doing anything about him leaking information. Honestly, if the anything happened to him it would be suspicious. No matter what happened it would be investigated to the last detail due to his high profile character. The government is doing something about it, we just do not see or know about it. Everything that happens to him is behind the scenes, out of public view and most likely his view as well.
The one thing you have to remember is this. The government does things we know nothing about, things we will know nothing about until many years later and other things we may never know about. Just because this man cannot prove his story to the finite detail does not mean that there is not some truth to what he says. Yes, I think some of what he says is overly exaggerated, however, in that exaggeration is the truth. Read between the lines, and break down the details. The truth is in there we just have to weed out the BS that is tangled in with it.


reply posted on 6-4-2011 @ 11:30 PM by mbkennel
Originally posted by ilian51378
Lastly, I would like to mention that I remember watching some UFO documentaries and reading on the subject where I found out what other scientists thought of Bob as a true or fake physicist. As far as I remember, most of them said that what he is saying makes sense and they could not discard it as nonsense.


I'm a physicist and I think he was spinning BS. He's a little bit better than your scientifically illiterate hoaxer, but clearly he's no serious physicist. It's just a good sci-fi story that a moderately educated technical undergraduate could create.

The notion that Edward Teller (who was unquestionably an extraordinary physicist) would choose him to be involved with such a critical project is rather preposterous.

Put simply, his story showed remarkable unawareness of the immense physical implications and difficulties of how actual physical gravitational engineering might work. Any real physicist would quickly home in on the central areas and be curious about some truly key questions---and successful answers would only come from the sustained effort of exceptionally knowlegable and dedicated experimentalists and theorists.

If he were a substantial scientist and decided to "spill it out" he could have given a far more detailed and sophisticated explanation of the principles that others who had some notion about the subject might consider plausible.
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reply posted on 8-4-2011 @ 09:13 PM by SamSeed
Super bismuth"It's like magic."
This latest scientific breakthrough, however, provides significant credibility to Bob Lazar’s claims rather than discrediting his claims. Bob Lazar’s Element 115 discs used to make the wedge for the “Sport Model” Flying Disc Anti-Matter Reactor would have to have been the isotope of Element 115 containing the magic number of 184 neutrons, therefore, having an atomic mass of 299. The nuclear configuration of this isotope of Element 115 would be identical to the nuclear configuration of the only known stable isotope of Element 83, Bismuth, 83Bi209, containing the magic number of 126 neutrons, except that the Element 115 isotope would have one more energy level completely filled with protons and neutrons. 82 protons and 114 protons are magic numbers for protons because 82 protons completely fill 6 proton energy levels and 114 protons completely fill 7 proton energy levels. The 83rd proton for Bismuth is a lone proton in the 7th proton energy level and the 115th proton for Element 115 is the lone proton in the 8th proton energy level. 126 neutrons completely fill 7 neutron energy levels and 184 neutrons completely fill 8 neutron energy levels. Refer to the Nucleon Energy Level Table for Bismuth and Element 115, below, for the nuclear configurations of Bismuth and Element 115. This stable isotope of Bismuth, Element 83, has very unique gravitational characteristics. Refer to the Henry William Wallace Patent: U.S. Patent 3,626,605, “Method and Apparatus for Generating a Secondary Gravitational Force Field.”

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reply posted on 24-4-2011 @ 01:34 PM by GunzCoty
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And lets not forget the W2 that proved he worked for the .....? Navy?
Damn i can't remember off-hand sorry. But they denied he was ever there and then he showed the W2 lol
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