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Originally posted by Harte
No, he's talking about some mathematical analyses done by Fred Hoyle, whom I disagree with but have immense respect for. The man was a genius, after all.
Originally posted by Simon666
Originally posted by Harte
No, he's talking about some mathematical analyses done by Fred Hoyle, whom I disagree with but have immense respect for. The man was a genius, after all.
Well, creationists often refer to astrofysicist Fred Hoyle to prove themselves correct, may I say that an astrofysicist better doesn't try to do calculations (a qualitative saying or summary of facts okay) regarding a field of science that isn't his own, especially if the calculations are statistical? I probably don't even need to mention that Fred Hoyle invented the term 'big bang', but was very opposed to the idea? Indeed, he developed the "steady state" theory for the universe. [url=http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/abioprob/abioprob.html]
evolution by random mutations and selection has been proven antiscientific from the hard science and pure logic basis (see L. Spetner "Not by Chance" and F. Hoyle "Mathematics of Evolution", also F. Hoyle "The Intelligent Universe"; also about Hoyle at www.panspermia.org...).
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Hoyle to claim that the protein histone-4 could never be produced in small steps. Why? Histone-4 has a chain of 102 amino acids and the structure is extremely conserved in all eukaryote species (16). Bovine histone-4 differs in only 2 positions with peas! And that means extreme functional constraints must exist (17). Histones are necessary for chromosome condensation during cell division. The traditional neo-Darwinian step-by-step method must fail claims Hoyle, because it implies 100 non-functional steps. The alternative: a jump of 100 mutations of exactly the right kind would be highly improbable. The histone-4 case is in fact a case of Michael Behe's Irreducible Complexity long before Behe published his Darwin's Black Box, since the hand-written version of Mathematics of Evolution was 'published' in 1987. Hoyle is an Intelligent Design Theorist 'avant-la-lettre'. What makes Hoyle different is that he doesn't talk about 'the supernatural' and the 3-letter word. Hoyle indignantly rejects Neo-Darwinists' "retreat in the unknowable and untestable" (p103), when they claim that histone-4 historically had a different function and so could evolve stepwise. Hoyle would be right if evolutionists just claimed it without doing research. But the question is open to further investigation. Evidence can and has been collected. Histone-precursors can be found in ancient bacteria Archaea (5). However the origin of histones is far from solved. This is not reported in the textbooks. It isn't even mentioned, let alone recognised as a difficult problem (7). On the other hand: does Hoyle seriously believe that histone-4 came hidden in a meteorite and incoporated itself into every eukaryotic cell? Is that itself not a "retreat in the unknowable and untestable"? More generally speaking: why does extraterrestrial evolution escape the problems that evolution encounters on Earth? More time? More space? Favourable conditions? Tell me!