found out the book is going to be made in to a film, surprise surprise catholics and christians are not happy. they say they will allow the film to be made and not kick up a fuss as long as they 'change the plot'.

one question: since when did catholics and christians rule the world?

so nothing anymore is aloud to be different or have a different view of the jesus story. christianity doesn't own jesus nor his legacy, they merely follow it. the bible is a work of fiction, as is dan brown's 'the da vinci code'.

what's the conspiracy? it's the conspiracy to try and carry on witholding any sort of truth or other ideas that might make sense of the jesus story. obviously christians and catholics feel threatened by this book, yet why would you feel threatened unless there was something to hide.

your thoughts?

Obviously they think that there are some aspects that could alter or widen peoples perception on certain aspects that the church feels that threaten them. I never like the ideals of church and it is because it is so super imposed that what they say goes.

I would follow Dan Browns book before I'd follow the Bible. But theats my opinion. This is part of the reason I hate religion. It causes more problems than it prevents.

I'd love to see the look on these peoples faces if we could just PROVE the bible to be false. All hell would break loose then... but for the Pope to realize his whole lifes Legacy was a waste... as was every persons Sunday Morning.

I'd love to see the look on these peoples faces if we could just PROVE the bible to be false

If you think that look would be wild, then you should've seen the look on my face when I found out the bible was true!

was it that split second expression on your face when you realised it was all true then, and not a gradual experience over time?

you didn't pull an orgasm face did you...

Shauny, there is truth out there, and it is the word of GOD.
There is a farce out there, and it is the davinci code. It is yet another attempt by people like you to twist and pervert the BIBLE to further your own agendas. I would like to present a challenge to you or anyone else on this site.........
Disprove the BIBLE, disprove JESUS.
No man or woman in history has ever been able to do so.
So I challenge you shauny.

I don't understand the fuss. The book was fiction. The research behind the book was mostly proven fraudulent. I enjoyed the book! I enjoyed reading HBHG, too. It doesn't mean that I believed it.

The same holds true for the New Testament and most all modern translations of the whole bible - except that there wasn't any research that went into it.

The movie, if it's well made, could be very entertaining. That's what movies are meant to be.

I don't believe in the bible. Do I believe jesus was the son of god? No. Do I believe that Jesus actually existed? Yes. I believe he was a living, breathing person, but no more of a heavanly being than you or I. Maybe I have science and such to blame for my views and opinions in religion. But the fact that I believe Jesus was mortal is what would make me believe the DaVinci code before i do the bible. But that does not mean that I believe the DaVinci code.

The same holds true for the New Testament and most all modern translations of the whole bible - except that there wasn't any research that went into it.

Are you insinuating that the Bible is fictional?

I don't believe in the bible. Do I believe jesus was the son of god? No. Do I believe that Jesus actually existed? Yes. I believe he was a living, breathing person, but no more of a heavanly being than you or I. Maybe I have science and such to blame for my views and opinions in religion. But the fact that I believe Jesus was mortal is what would make me believe the DaVinci code before i do the bible. But that does not mean that I believe the DaVinci code

Then take my challenge.

Then take my challenge and prove it true. No one has done that either. For if they had, I wouldn't be making an argument here.

I bet I can come a lot closer than you can.
Billions of people throughout history have died in the name of Jesus Christ. I don't think anyone has ever died in the name of Davinci.

Whether or not people believe the Bible to be true is not the issue here. It is about a group of idiots who are all bent out of shape over hollywood producing a piece of fiction. Sheesh. What will they do next?

Dan Brown was wrong. Jesus was "gay". Since he loved John, And allowed him to lean on his "hairy" Chest. And Judas betrayed his ex-lover with a kiss.

Originally posted by deesw
Shauny, there is truth out there, and it is the word of GOD.
There is a farce out there, and it is the davinci code. It is yet another attempt by people like you to twist and pervert the BIBLE to further your own agendas. I would like to present a challenge to you or anyone else on this site.........
Disprove the BIBLE, disprove JESUS.
No man or woman in history has ever been able to do so.
So I challenge you shauny.

''people like you''... what do you mean, ''people like you''? athiests? people who read books other than the bible?

the new testament is just a 'twist and perversion' of the jesus story, just as much so as the da vinci code.

i can't 'disprove' the bible just as much as you can't 'prove' it. i can't 'disprove' jesus fed 5000 people with a few fish, some bread and a can of coke, yet you can't 'prove' it. so if it can't be proven then it's not 100% fact or truth. why should it be up to me to disprove something that can't be proven? the fact that almost all of the bible cannot be 'proven' means that i do not need to 'disprove' it. by all means prove it to me, but telling me you have a relationship with god through jesus isn't proof.

Originally posted by deesw

The same holds true for the New Testament and most all modern translations of the whole bible - except that there wasn't any research that went into it.

Are you insinuating that the Bible is fictional?

I think the entire NT is pretty good historical fiction. In other words, a lot of the names and places and a few of the major events are true but, after that, it's mostly a retelling of some legends with quite a bit of embellishment. Can I prove it? Not as well are many other scholars who have worked most of their lives in this area. There are Christian scholars whose work has shown that a good bit of these stories didn't happen quite the way they are laid out in the Gospels but that does not shake their basic belief. Then, there are non-Christian scholars who have been less kind.

Bear in mind that none of these scholars and researchers are trying to attack the Christian faiths - they are simply trying to reach historical accuracy with sincere research that reaches far beyond what is written in the bible.

You do know that there are books other than the bible, right?

Two works of fiction. Ones got boring people and lots of sheeple. The other's got crazy action and an ugly naked man.
I'm actually looking forward to the movie. I was a bit dissapointed by the casting of tom hanks. But oh well.

Originally posted by deesw
Shauny, there is truth out there, and it is the word of GOD.
There is a farce out there, and it is the davinci code. It is yet another attempt by people like you to twist and pervert the BIBLE to further your own agendas. I would like to present a challenge to you or anyone else on this site.........
Disprove the BIBLE, disprove JESUS.
No man or woman in history has ever been able to do so.

Hey buddy, shouldnt you be praying for us right now? Like for us not to go to hell or something? Get to it!

So I challenge you shauny.

Anyone who responded to that need to smack themselves square in the face with a banana.
Troll alert!

a christian friend of mine told me she was so excited when she learnt about 'bible codes', basically because she believed it. then only reason she believed it is because bible codes are trying to say that there really is a god and mysterious power. when it comes to books on that subject christians will choose to believe it etc, yet when something comes out saying the bible is wrong...burn it!!!