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Bush Refuses to Acknowledge Mother of Fallen Soldier

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posted on Aug, 10 2005 @ 08:22 AM
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Cindy Sheehan, mother of Army Specialist Casey Sheehan (killed in Sadr City, Iraq, April 4, 2004) has set up camp outside Bush's Crawford ranch. She wants to speak to the president. As an American, and as a parent who's son gave the ultimate sacrifice, she has every right to petition the president. Unfortunately, and unsurprisingly, he chooses to ignore her. He sent out two of his lackeys to talk to her rather than be a man (forget commander-in-chief) himself and face her. Not only is he a world-class liar, but he is a coward of the highest order.

He honors our troops and their families so long as the cameras are rolling. They are nothing but fodder and prop to him. It's beyond disgraceful.

He may have to face her yet. According to reports, members of Gold Star Families for Peace (GSFP) and Military Families Speak Out (MFSO) are traveling to Texas to join the protest. It will be interesting to see just how much coverage, if any, the media will give to this situation. It oughtta be front page news.



Military Families to Join Cindy Sheehan in Crawford
US Newswire

Tuesday 09 August 2005

Gold Star and military families from across country on their way to Texas.
Crawford, Texas - More members of Gold Star Families for Peace (GSFP) and Military Families Speak Out (MFSO) are traveling to Texas to join the protest outside of President Bush's ranch in Crawford, Texas, where he is vacationing for the month of August.

Starting today, Gold Star families from Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Arkansas and other states whose loved ones have died as a result of the war in Iraq will be joining one of their members, Cindy Sheehan, at the protest. Ms. Sheehan, whose son Army Specialist Casey Sheehan was killed in Sadr City, Iraq on April 4, 2004, has been in Crawford since August 5th, demanding a meeting with the President. These families will be joined by military families with loved ones currently serving in Iraq or about to deploy or redeploy to Iraq. All of these families are coming to Crawford, Texas to share their stories about the personal costs of the war in Iraq and add their voices to the call for a meeting with President Bush.
www.truthout.org...




posted on Aug, 10 2005 @ 10:27 AM
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Good, hopefully when the protest gets bigger news coverage will go there live and she will be able to broadcast live the fact that when she was tehre by herself he refused to meet with her...

That is so typical of today's politician... They don't give a #e about american people, it's about minions and elitism... This isn't the America that I know and love.... Like I said before, I wish I was back in Washington's time. Even today's people know of this but still vote republican and democrat, both are funded heavily for favors, and both are machavallian.

I too blame the American people for allowing this and continuing the insanity of voting for either or. I guess one could also argue you get what you vote for therefore deserving of it (lesser of two evils still gives you evil)
And phony selfish corrupt aholes.



posted on Aug, 10 2005 @ 12:24 PM
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I get the feeling that the Whitehouse will let this play in the media, to distract the American people from U.S. Federal Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald's work.




“That lying bastard, George Bush, is taking a five-week vacation in time of war,” Cindy Sheehan told 200 cheering members of Veterans for Peace at their annual convention in Dallas last Friday evening.

She said in Dallas that if he sends anyone else to see her, as happened when national security adviser Steve Hadley and deputy White House chief of staff Joe Hagin did later that day, she would demand that “You get that maniac out here to talk with me in person.”

As the veterans in Dallas rose to their feet, Sheehan said defiantly, “My son was killed in 2004. I am not paying my taxes for 2004. You killed my son, George Bush, and I don’t owe you a penny...you give my son back and I’ll pay my taxes. Come after me (for back taxes) and we’ll put this war on trial.”

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[edit on 10/8/2005 by Sauron]



posted on Aug, 10 2005 @ 12:54 PM
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I'd like to show you something here.

1: Dated 06/24/2004

Bush, Sheehans share moments

2: Your link


Does anything strike you as odd that someone would do that.

As for the "lackeys", do you mean national security adviser Steve Hadley and deputy White House chief of staff Joe Hagin?

Those are some high ranking "lackeys" that went and spoke with her for 45 mins.

This woman seems to be fooling people, but there is more to it that a Bush bashing event.



posted on Aug, 10 2005 @ 05:46 PM
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Why would she put so much time and effort into this... Obviously she got a whiff of something after she shared glorious moments with bush...

Are people not allowed to have a change of mind in this country?

What she keeps asking about is those downing street memos.. Of which weren't in the media ever.

Sure she met the prez and everything was great, but i'm guessing she had lingering questions, was researching and became shocked and stunned about holes in this adminitration's explanations of events....

And she won't let it go, obviously her son is dead, she thought he fought for a good cause in the beginning, and now she's not so sure...

How is this grandstanding? She got more press when she met with the prez, no media is paying her attention now... although but slowly gaining momentum. This is a real american imo... Good for her for questioning the government and not cowering over and letting these important questions go. Good for her. And good for her for researching conspiracy theories ect.



posted on Aug, 10 2005 @ 08:46 PM
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“That lying bastard, George Bush, is taking a five-week vacation in time of war,” Cindy Sheehan told 200 cheering members of Veterans for Peace at their annual convention in Dallas last Friday evening.


Do you have an official transcript of that?



posted on Aug, 10 2005 @ 08:51 PM
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The comments attributed to Sheehan in the above article do not sound like her from what I've read.

Being in the media, I can assure you all, no one is using that story as a diversion. They're ignoring it, if anything.

That article mentioned above sounds like a smeer to discredit her. That's why I'd like to see an official transcript from the host organization or another credible media outlet.

You know what I wanna do? I'd like to take 2 weeks off and drive down there to Crawford to check it out myself. If I could find someone from around here, I'd have myself a front page story. It'd definitely be worth my time off the clock.



posted on Aug, 12 2005 @ 05:00 PM
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Originally posted by EastCoastKid
The comments attributed to Sheehan in the above article do not sound like her from what I've read.


I think she could have said that. She's pretty POed.




You know what I wanna do? I'd like to take 2 weeks off and drive down there to Crawford to check it out myself. If I could find someone from around here, I'd have myself a front page story. It'd definitely be worth my time off the clock.


I would SO love that!

The media isn't totally ignoring it. It's getting more press (and more supporters) every day.

Reuters
Atlanta Journal
AP



posted on Aug, 13 2005 @ 10:19 AM
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So the 'right' is after Cindy, but what about Rove and gang why aren't they in the news? are they all plaining to move to some country that does not have extradition


The Savaging Of Cindy Sheehan
By Matthew Rothschild
The Progressive

The shameless savaging of Cindy Sheehan continues.

Bill O'Reilly says she's a tool of "far left elements."

The New York Sun echoes the charge, evidently reading the same rightwing talking points.

In an editorial on August 11, it says Sheehan "has put herself in league with some extreme groups and individuals."

This is old-style McCarthyism, straight on down to the red-baiting.

The editorial quotes Sheehan about some of the groups she's involved with, including Code Pink, Veterans for Peace, and Military Families Speak Out.
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Snip~~
The invective toward Cindy Sheehan seems to know no bounds. Phil Hendrie’s “ignorant cow” line drew some criticism at the posting site, but it also attracted the following remarks:
“In a more civil society, we’d toss her ass in jail for giving aid and comfort to the enemy.”
“This woman deserves nothing more than a swift kick in the ass.”
“The only pain I hear from this woman is the pain of having to live in a nonsocialist society.”
“I think her son would call her worse things.”
On www.drudge.com..., the Drudge Retort (as opposed to the Drudge Report), there is a long exchange on Sheehan. Here are some of the uglier comments:
“Shut your pie hole bitch. Let your son rest in peace.”
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President Bush - Call Off the dogs on Cindy Sheehan

Raw Story is talking about the article from 2004 which Matt Drudge is employing, with a Right attack-dog-wind beneath his wings [he got the report archive from Freepers]. The mission to attack is on - the objective is to discredit the mother of a fallen Iraqi soldier.
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MONDAY - AUGUST 15

In New York City - Rally in Union Sq. 5:00 pm

Join us Monday, August 15 to stand in Solidarity with Cindy Sheehan!

Solidarity Day with Cindy Sheehan, Monday August 15
Dead Vet's Mom-Camped at Bush's Ranch-Won't Leave






"My Son Joined the Army to Protect America, Not Israel"




The Murder Of Casey Sheehan




[edit on 13/8/2005 by Sauron]



posted on Aug, 13 2005 @ 10:34 AM
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Originally posted by Sauron
So the 'right' is after Cindy, but what about Rove and gang why aren't they in the news?


Exactly! Making the mother of a dead soldier the villian is the best way they can come up with to take attention from the criminal activity in the White House. Isn't she just terrible?


Some quotes from Ms. Sheehan today:



We had Bush drive by really, really fast twice. I caught a glimpse of Laura. I was hoping after she saw me that she would come down to Camp Casey with some brownies and lemonade. I waited for her, but she never came.

The Bush's were going to a bar-be-que/fundraiser down the road from us.




I am a continued thorn in the side to the right-wing bloggers and right wing-nut "journalists." One man, Phil Hendry called me an "ignorant cow."
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I don't have time to worry about the negativity and the hatred. The people who are slamming me have no idea about what it feels like to unjustly have a child killed in an insane war.




Three active duty soldiers from Ft. Hood came to visit me and tell me that they really appreciated what I was doing...


Source



posted on Aug, 13 2005 @ 11:29 AM
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Hell I have no life, how about a ATS Get Together in Crawford Texas? J/K can't afford the plane ticket and no drivers license. But hey nice to see someone is standing up against the man who fled from a cushy job so he could do coke and drink like a fish.

Fact: Bush got a DUI in a year when there were fewer DUI's given out then there were homicides. You have to really be sh*t faced to do that.
Fact:Coke Head fled from the National Guard because they would have made him get a check up.
Fact:His oil company couldn't find oil in the middle of an oil field.
Fact:Guy puts Cheech and Chong to shame with all the drugs he's done. The only redneck who competes with him is Willie Nelson.(Go Willie! Love Georgia on my Mind)

Anyways where is the media coverage? Why is Bush allowed more vacation time in 8 months then FDR had in 4 terms? Bush was president for less then 3 months when 9/11 happened due to all his vacation time.



posted on Aug, 13 2005 @ 12:34 PM
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Again, ECK, you are reporting a fallacy. Sheehan has already met with the President, at which time, he expressed his sympathy for her and others who have lost loved ones in this war. Not only that, but she praised the President for his compassion and understanding. Now she has willingly become a shill for moveon.org, Michael Moore and the enemy. She is a disgrace to the memory of her son, who volunteered and re-enlisted in a cause in which he believed, and she is a disgrace to her nation.




www.gopusa.com...

The mainstream media has gone bonkers over Cindy Sheehan, the grieving mother who lost her son last year in Iraq. According to a recent Sheehan blog, she is to be featured in People, Time, Vanity Fair and Oprah's magazine. The New York Times and it's Left Coast ideological bedmate the Los Angeles Times have run breathless feature articles. Cindy's story even made the AP, ensuring predictable nationwide coverage in local newspapers. The story is irresistible - the heartbroken mother who is determined to meet with President Bush, to find out if her son's sacrifice was worth it. The media, as usual determined to undermine the war, demoralize the troops and stick it to W, lapped it up unquestioningly.

Except - bloggers, talk radio and the newly liberated pajama press have blown the media blinders off once again. Cindy Sheehan and her family already met with President Bush, two months after her son Casey's death in April of 2004. According to David Henson in the Vacaville Reporter, Ms. Sheehan then praised the President for "caring about Iraqis", "being sincere" and "understanding their pain". She said that the Sheehan family had had a "moment of happiness" with Mr. Bush.



Please visit the link provided for the complete story.





www.drudgereport.com...

The mother of a fallen U.S. soldier who is holding a roadside peace vigil near President Bush's ranch -- has dramatically changed her account about what happened when she met the commander-in-chief last summer!

Cindy Sheehan, 48, of Vacaville, Calif., who last year praised Bush for bringing her family the "gift of happiness," took to the nation's TV outlets this weekend to declare how Bush "killed an indispensable part of our family and humanity."

CINDY 2004

THE REPORTER of Vacaville, CA published an account of Cindy Sheehan's visit with the president at Fort Lewis near Seattle on June 24, 2004:

"'I now know he's sincere about wanting freedom for the Iraqis,' Cindy said after their meeting. 'I know he's sorry and feels some pain for our loss. And I know he's a man of faith.'



Please visit the link provided for the complete story.





www.americanchronicle.com...

The White House pointed out Bush had previously met with Sheehan's family -- as he had with about 900 other families of the more than 1,800 U.S. service personnel killed in Iraq. It was not clear Bush would give Sheehan another meeting.




Please visit the link provided for the complete story.





www.chron.com...

The president met Sheehan in June 2004 in Fort Lewis, Wash., as he visited with 106 family members of 28 soldiers who died in Iraq. Two top Bush aides talked to Sheehan face-to-face on Saturday in a meeting she later called unsatisfactory.



Please visit the link provided for the complete story.





www.wishtv.com...

Sheehan has met the president before, when he stopped at Fort Lewis, Washington to deliver a speech about the Iraq war.



Please visit the link provided for the complete story.




[edit on 2005/8/13 by GradyPhilpott]



posted on Aug, 13 2005 @ 12:45 PM
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Thank you Grady, I needed to know the other side to this, I just couldnt understand the cold shoulder.............

now I do...



posted on Aug, 13 2005 @ 01:07 PM
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It was after her meeting with Bush that she learned about PNAC, the 9/11 Commission report, the Downing Street Memos and other information that made her decide she wanted to talk with him again. There is no crime in this. Many are trying to make this a scandalous request, but actually, it makes perfect sense.

How specifically is she disgracing the memory of her son? I would love the answer to that from anyone... Should she just sweep her son's death under the rug? It seems to me that bringing his friends home alive would be an excellent way of honoring him.

He did not believe in this war or support Bush. From an Interview with Ms. Sheehan:



DS: How did Casey feel about going to Iraq?

CS: He didn't want to go. He felt the war was wrong and did not support George Bush, but he felt it was his duty to go.



posted on Aug, 13 2005 @ 01:55 PM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
It seems to me that bringing his friends home alive would be an excellent way of honoring him.


This is the fallacy of the antiwar movement. We do not honor those who have fallen by abandoning the cause for which they fought.



DS: How did Casey feel about going to Iraq?

CS: He didn't want to go. He felt the war was wrong and did not support George Bush, but he felt it was his duty to go.


I can't speak for the credibility of this quote, as I have no respect for the credibility of this woman, but if this quotation is truthful, it says volumes about the character of her son, Casey. He believed strongly in his nation and his duty to that nation and even if he did not believe strongly in the cause, he subjugated his personal beliefs to duty. That is what I call character, even though I don't believe it to be true. I think he did believe in the cause.



posted on Aug, 13 2005 @ 02:07 PM
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So you think you know the thoughts of this boy more than his own mother. I myself tend to believe what the mother knows rather than what someone thinks.



posted on Aug, 13 2005 @ 02:21 PM
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Originally posted by I See You
So you think you know the thoughts of this boy more than his own mother. I myself tend to believe what the mother knows rather than what someone thinks.


I think Casey's actions speak more to his beliefs than anything his mother has to say, but if you will read my post, you will note that in assuming that his mother is truthful about her son's beliefs, it only makes him that much more a hero and a model for America, unlike his mother, the media whore.

[edit on 2005/8/13 by GradyPhilpott]



posted on Aug, 13 2005 @ 03:51 PM
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I can't say that I know what this woman is up to or if she is indeed sincere about her cause. She may have been contacted after word of her sons death by a extremist group to play this part for them. I can understand what she wishes for (troops coming home now) and can also understand that it can't be done. Though I would like to see our troops come home, I realize that we need to finish our job there. I don't believe any President would have re-met with this woman under the circumstances, especially now.



posted on Aug, 13 2005 @ 04:17 PM
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Originally posted by I See You
I don't believe any President would have re-met with this woman under the circumstances, especially now.


Precisely! No self-respecting leader would yeild to these cheap, sensationalistic tactics. Bush did the right thing to call off the cops, because she wants nothing more in the world than to get arrested.



posted on Aug, 13 2005 @ 05:04 PM
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Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
Precisely! No self-respecting leader would yeild to these cheap, sensationalistic tactics. Bush did the right thing to call off the cops, because she wants nothing more in the world than to get arrested.


Exactly. Wouldn't that just be great for these people's cause if she got arrested? Boy, they'd love it! "Evil right wing Bush has arrested this grieving mother after simply trying to express her concern about his presidency". While I can't speak for this woman, for all I know she might be a decent, warm person, I do think the media is unfairly manipulating her emotions for their cause. Keep on pullin' those heart strings...



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