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Some disturbing facts of islam

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posted on Aug, 10 2005 @ 10:44 AM
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Originally posted by TruthWithin
Oh. I'm sorry. You're right. Bombs that fall out of planes don't count. Shells fired from tanks don't count. Cruise missles fired from hundreds of miles away don't count.



I assume you're talking about our invasion of Afghanistan whose government was harboring the very terrorists who were responsible for their UNPROVOKED attack on US soil. Or maybe you're talking about Iraq whose leader sytematically murdered 10's of thousand of his own people with chemical poisions and who invaded a soverign nation, raping women and killing civillians for ITS oil. A dictator who continuously thumbed his nose at the UN despite the long list of resolutions sanctioning his UNPROVOKED attack on Kuwait. A dictator who also was known to harbor members of Al Qieada and who would have provided the means necessary (read: WMD) to those terrorists for attacks on Americans and other western nations.

And BTW; We have NOT attacked any other nation in the name of Chritianity or God. It has ALWAYS for the purpose of preserving freedom and democracy--a concept that is completely devoid in Islam.




posted on Aug, 10 2005 @ 10:45 AM
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Your forgetting something, how many christian nations are currently at peace?

Compare that to the number of muslim nations involved in some conflict, it doesnt quite compare. sorry.

[edit on 10-8-2005 by XphilesPhan]



posted on Aug, 10 2005 @ 10:49 AM
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What Christian nations are at peace?

Russia fights in Chechnya, England fights in Iraq, France has troops in the Ivory Coast, Canada has troops in Aganistan, so does Germany. Poland has troops in Iraq.

There are plenty of other Christian nations, but off hand i cant think of one thats at peace!

Meanwhile, what wars are Morroco involved in? How about Lybia? Egypt?

And isnt everyone in the Christian west fighting a 'War on Terror' Is that peace?



It has ALWAYS for the purpose of preserving freedom and democracy--a concept that is completely devoid in Islam.


Umm, Turkey anyone?



posted on Aug, 10 2005 @ 10:51 AM
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Originally posted by Uncle Joe
When will people learn that an entire religion with over a thousand years of history and billions of participants cant be judged by the actions of a few?


If its really just a few, or a "tiny minority of extremists" to coin the phrase that's been bantered about; Why then the need for the fatwa that was recently issued following the UK attacks? It seems to me that if this was truly only a small few harborinf this "extreme" form of Islam it would hardly be worth the effort to attempt to issue this fatwa.



posted on Aug, 10 2005 @ 10:52 AM
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Here's another fact, Islam has become an institution of death, next to the old soviet union. In fact in many of the old soviet republics, Islam has taken hold.

Muslims have this saying:

"First [destroy] the Saturday People (Jews)... then the Sunday People (Christians)."

Religion of peace indeed,



posted on Aug, 10 2005 @ 10:55 AM
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Any proof Xphiles? Or is this just like all the peaceful Christian nations you spoke about earlier?



posted on Aug, 10 2005 @ 10:59 AM
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joem i posted the link with info, and no im not claiming its gospel, but there is alot of truth to it. Try to keep that open mind of yours open.



posted on Aug, 10 2005 @ 11:01 AM
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Ok ill rephrase the question.

Do you have a credible source for you claims?

And can you tell me what Christian nations are at peace? And who Morroco, Egypt and Libya are fighting?


dom

posted on Aug, 10 2005 @ 11:01 AM
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Originally posted by Freedom_for_sum

Originally posted by Uncle Joe
When will people learn that an entire religion with over a thousand years of history and billions of participants cant be judged by the actions of a few?


If its really just a few, or a "tiny minority of extremists" to coin the phrase that's been bantered about; Why then the need for the fatwa that was recently issued following the UK attacks? It seems to me that if this was truly only a small few harborinf this "extreme" form of Islam it would hardly be worth the effort to attempt to issue this fatwa.


A while ago I remember a fatwa being issued against a single person. I don't think the existence of a fatwa is in ANY WAY related to the number of people involved in extremism.



posted on Aug, 10 2005 @ 11:03 AM
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Eh... this is no different than the websites that proclaim Jews as the spawn of Satan out to brutally decimate the rest of the world.

Hate speech takes many forms.

For every person that hates Muslims there's someone who hates Jews, and someone who hates Christians, and it goes on and on and on.

Paying attention to one-sided biased writings who's intention it is to draw other people to hate a group is a mistake. It accomplishes nothing.

Even if some of the writings of that article are true (and yes extremists did do some of what is in that article)...

How dare anyone use that to represent an entire group of people? An entire religion?

Every group has its bad people. An intelligent person does not take the actions of those people and let it represent the whole group.



posted on Aug, 10 2005 @ 11:04 AM
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Originally posted by dom
A while ago I remember a fatwa being issued against a single person. I don't think the existence of a fatwa is in ANY WAY related to the number of people involved in extremism.


A fatwa was issued calling for the death of Salman Rushdie for writing a book, The Satanic Verses...sounds like they have no problem with narrowly focused fatwas...


dom

posted on Aug, 10 2005 @ 11:04 AM
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Another series of violent extremist religions contain the following ditty's...

"Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)"

" (Moses) stood at the entrance to the camp and shouted, "All of you who are on the LORD's side, come over here and join me." And all the Levites came. He told them, "This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: Strap on your swords! Go back and forth from one end of the camp to the other, killing even your brothers, friends, and neighbors." The Levites obeyed Moses, and about three thousand people died that day. Then Moses told the Levites, "Today you have been ordained for the service of the LORD, for you obeyed him even though it meant killing your own sons and brothers. Because of this, he will now give you a great blessing." (Exodus 32:26-29 NLT)"

etc. etc.



posted on Aug, 10 2005 @ 11:06 AM
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Well Islam's another religion and not THE religion. Is Islam responsible for cutting off the heads of innocent people, or are the fruitcakes doing the cutting.? Is it a race, a religion or groups desgned from birth to hate america, its governments or people - or all three..

Stomp it out before the mushroom plume raises its head.

Dallas



posted on Aug, 10 2005 @ 11:09 AM
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Originally posted by dom
A while ago I remember a fatwa being issued against a single person. I don't think the existence of a fatwa is in ANY WAY related to the number of people involved in extremism.


It's not the number of people it's being issued against; but rather the number of Imams who have partaken in this fatwa. As far as the single person; I believe you may be referring to Salmon Rushdie. This edict actually included a few others as well. You should do a little research and find out WHY this death sentance was issued in the first place.



posted on Aug, 10 2005 @ 11:09 AM
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wow, the bias and hate in those articles was overwhelming.

Its scary how it effects the reader.

I actually allowed myself to think about life in the USA if it was led by muslims, maybe 25 years from now.

Go Bush Go !



posted on Aug, 10 2005 @ 11:18 AM
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Originally posted by LA_Maximus


Agreed, See ya in the hills when the shtf, We can watch these liberal morons getting slaughtered by the savages they protect.

[edit on 10-8-2005 by C0le]



posted on Aug, 10 2005 @ 11:23 AM
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Originally posted by C0le

Originally posted by LA_Maximus


Agreed, See ya in the hills when the shtf, We can watch these liberal morons getting slaughtered by the savages they protect.

[edit on 10-8-2005 by C0le]


Congratulations.

Your a racist and a fool.



posted on Aug, 10 2005 @ 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by Uncle Joe


Hardly, I only see the truth unlike you blinded sheep, who protect the enemy who wouldnt give a second thought to killing you, I have no pitty for any of you when the day comes when one of these savages shows you what islam is all about.

[edit on 10-8-2005 by C0le]



posted on Aug, 10 2005 @ 11:27 AM
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This is a fairly pointless conversation, your never going to take your blinkers off, and ill be fairly honest and say that given the nature of your first post im not terribly inclined to listen to you.

Lets agree to disagree.

Shame that ignorance seems to have triumphed mind.



posted on Aug, 10 2005 @ 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by C0le
Hardly, I only see the truth unlike you blinded sheep, who protect the enemy who wouldnt give a second thought to killing you, I have no pitty for any of you when the day comes when one of these savages shows you what islam is all about.

[edit on 10-8-2005 by C0le]


Cole,
From this post I can only guess that you hate everyone who is muslim , correct?




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