Originally posted by nexus6
Well if the girls were virgins and alcohol tests were negative, it’s very unlikely they were sleeping all in one tent and were naked. In which case
they must have been stripped after death – which once again points to a human cause. Were the women found naked? The report is not clear. I don’t
think it can be said that they ‘ran away naked from the tent’ this is an assumption that makes an already unclear situation more murky. There may
have been bare footprints but it’s a big jump to say they were naked.
They must have had some ‘equipment’ with them to light the campfire that the two naked men were found lying near.
The tongue of one woman was ‘missing’ was it torn out by an animal or cut out with a knife or tool? That should have been determined.
The skeptic in me also feels that perhaps ‘hypothermia’ has been used rather enthusiastically to perhaps cover up or close the book on what
appears to be a brutal murder.
I found something in English, some nice pics on the first one, it sure looks godforsaken!
www.extreme.ur.ru...
english.pravda.ru...
So it seems the mountain itself has a fairly dark reputation…
nexus6,
You are correct on some points - as I said I traslated this stuff myself and due to my silly English I might have chosen some wrong wording here and
there, sorry. I'll try to clarify:
First of all, all of them (except for one (?) man) initally had light clothes on - the ones they were sleeping in in their sleeping bags. Just light
clothes which is not enough to withstand the cold outside, with no boots on as well. However the two men at the campfare were indeed naked. Their
clothes were cut from their already by that time dead bodies with a knife, and later found on the girl from the last four bodies. As if one of alive
members tried to warm the girl up a bit by cutting clothes from someone who didn't need it already. Thing is, this fact creates some continuity
problems for many of the theories involving explosions, shockwaves and the like - this girl had one of the most severe injuries and as later
determined she could not live more than 10-15 minutes max after she was injuried this badly. So either the guy who dressed her didn't realize she
were dead (which is barely plausible), or she got her injuries and died AFTER the two guys at the campfire were frozen to death.
You are also correct about the place having a dark reputation - in fact, the very mountain they died at is called Mountain of the deads. There are
more mysterious stuff and legends to it, I just didn't want to bring this stuff out because frankly I don't believe in a supernatural cause of what
happened with the group.
As for pictures, the first link I gave has real pictures of the mountain and the place. It also has a photo of the tent as they found it, and some
photos of the guys from the group too.
P.S. The more I think about this, the stranger it gets. I just realzied that if Tibo-Briniol from the last four bodies died as said almost immediately
after recieveing his head injury, why Kolevatov - who is believed to be the one who cut clothes from the two campfire men and gave them to Dubinina -
didn't took Tibo-Briniol's clothes instead. This probably means that they didn't get their injures at the same time. As if something was happening
again and again.
P.P.S Just thought I'd add another interesting bit on the two at the campfire - although there were a lot of dead cedar twigs lying around to make a
campfire with, not counting smaller trees which were pretty close to the campfire, for some reason they choose to pluck quite hard to reach lower
twigs from that very cedar, and that should have been a tremendous effort for them considering their condition. This led the investigators to believe
that they might have gone at least partially blind.
[edit on 9-8-2005 by deee]