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Originally posted by eudaimonia
I think I can safely say that there's a strong case to make that Masonry and the so called "New World Order" are intertwined, so to speak.
In the meantime, while you download the videos, could a mason here explain to us what The Flower of Life is all about? And why is it considered the ultimate secret? Why is Sacred Geometry so important to you?
Originally posted by sebatwerk
Then it's obvious that these videos are lying or misinforming regarding what Freemasonry, as an institution does. Freemasonry is a school, nothing more. How can a school be "intertwined" with political control, especially when it doesn't involve itself in politics?
I have never heard of "The flower of life".
Sacred Geometry is NOT important to me, or most masons, it is only used by Freemasons as symbolism, like everything else, and allegory for morals and virtue.
Originally posted by eudaimonia
One example is Albert Pike. There's a statue of him right smack in the middle of Washinton D.C., of all places! Precisely 13 city blocks north of the White House. How is that not political?
But I'd like to know what is the Flower of Life and how it relates to Freemasonry.
I can't accept the notion that the author of the video would make up something as extravagant like The Flower of Life and saying it is their "ultimate secret". I would like a real answer to this question.
Originally posted by eudaimonia
*snippity-do-da*
I can't accept the notion that the author of the video would make up something as extravagant like The Flower of Life and saying it is their "ultimate secret". I would like a real answer to this question.
Originally posted by Golfie
I first must admit that I have not watched the videos....not worth wasting my time. I know what Masonry is about....I don't need some conspirator telling me what he "suspects".....
Originally posted by Golfie
I first must admit that I have not watched the videos....not worth wasting my time. I know what Masonry is about....I don't need some conspirator telling me what he "suspects".....
That being said, even on this board people have accused Masonry of many things. Some so far out in left field that you'd need a telescope to see them. Most, if not all, things with a little logical thought and reasoning can be dismissed easily.
Just because someone makes a huge production out of something does that mean it true?!?! If so I guess the National Enquierer was right...that lady gave birth to a martian (I guess to be p.c. I should call it an ALF, but again I digress)......My point being falsehoods are falsehoods no matter how they are presented.
As for the Flower of Life....I've not had the pleasure in my Masonic journey.... A quick google...yields
www.floweroflife.org...
is this what you're meaning? If so I don't see how this relates to Masonry.
Originally posted by eudaimonia
VIDEO 1
7 minutes - 61mb (unrar it)
New World Order, Masonry & Illuminati Connections
www.megaupload.com...
VIDEO 2
25 minutes - 178mb
The Invisibly Visible - Identifying Masonic Symbols
www.megaupload.com...
I know there's many masons here on ATS who defend their beliefs with all their heart and soul, but please understand that as good as you think it may be for yourself and your fellow members, there's another side of it that raises serious concerns and demands a serious investigation. Well, at least for me it does. When I watch videos like the one's I've posted, the first question that pops in my mind, "Well, let's see if it convinces me or not". It always leaves me wanting more, but I think after watching these two videos, I think I can safely say that there's a strong case to make that Masonry and the so called "New World Order" are intertwined, so to speak. There's just too many pieces of the puzzle the fit so perfectly with one another. It's disturbing, to say the least. Watch these videos and tell me with a straight face that it's all fabricated to be some kind of "Anti-Masonry" propaganda. If you believe that, then I'm sorry, but it's all there too see that it's absolutely not. I think Masons here need to make the case for us non-masons that what we're seeing here is all a lie. Good Luck on that!
Some of the information is known from the footage, not all, but I think how it's presented that is the most important part.
In the meantime, while you download the videos, could a mason here explain to us what The Flower of Life is all about? And why is it considered the ultimate secret? Why is Sacred Geometry so important to you?
Originally posted by eudaimonia
VIDEO 1
7 minutes - 61mb (unrar it)
VIDEO 2
25 minutes - 178mb
Originally posted by NeonHelmet
Well this is what i have to add!
Thats really what i have to add on the "flower of life"
Originally posted by 12m8keall2c
Links don't work.
Gets you to the mainpage, but without account info there is no access . . . unless you [sign up].
Please provide working links as I would definitely like to view these vids!
Thanx!
Originally posted by eudaimonia
Originally posted by 12m8keall2c
Links don't work.
Gets you to the mainpage, but without account info there is no access . . . unless you [sign up].
Please provide working links as I would definitely like to view these vids!
Thanx!
They do, if you look at the top right it says you have to wait 45 seconds for it.
Wait 45 seconds, and let me know if it works or not.
Originally posted by Selective_ID
To say that sacred geometry is not important to you, or other masons, is saying it was established as part of the Free Masons, as nothing more than a filler, or an ideaology to simply bull#, or take up space on a page of any given handbook.
That's idiotic.
I believe these video's show more indepth into the FM's than they'd like, and anyone hoping to persuede us into believing otherwise will run right out and begin to tell us otherwise.
"Well thats not important to me".
Neither are your comments to anyone else.
Originally posted by intrepid
Originally posted by Golfie
I first must admit that I have not watched the videos....not worth wasting my time. I know what Masonry is about....I don't need some conspirator telling me what he "suspects".....
OK, sorry to find this odd. On a site where we deny ignorance, this seems to be just that to me. How do you know what the material is if you don't check it out. Just saying it's invalid proves nothing, explain WHY it's invalid then you have made a point.
Originally posted by CPYKOmega
Please rehost the file, or fix problems with downloads. I too have tried to download the file. I waited 45 seconds, then clicked download. I am now downloading the first file, but the speed is at a constant 1.4kb/sec. And I am on a 5 megabyte download Cable line. (Max speed 640kb/sec)
I'll try again later.