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Originally posted by Joshm2u
ok i think pain killers like tylenol and advil are just money making pills for drug compaines. they are just about treating the symptoms and never the causes. noone ever got a headache for not having tylenol.
i think its a shame how all this money that the drug companies are making are not going towards trying to heal people. and whenever there seems to be a cure for things, the drug companies buy out the cure.
western medicine has become corrupted and it will stay this way as long as tghe drug compaies and the governemnts are filled with corrupt people.
Originally posted by chebob
I haven't needed a painkiller since the day I realised they were placebos, about 4 years ago. I have no doubt that painkillers like Morphine are very effective and not placebos. But the low level, "headache" pills like Paracetamol, deliver nothing compared to what your own body can in terms of pain relief. They work, because no one in their "right" mind wouldn't expect them too, thats the reason. A painkiller does nothing for me anymore, if I get a headache I just sit it through, because on the rare occasions in the last few years I have tried a paracetemol, it has had ABSOLUTE ZERO effect, even on small pains. It just doesn't work for me. If I was a painkiller junkie and my bodie had got used to them I'd use that as an explanation, but no. They don't work anymore on me because - how can a placebo work if you know it's a placebo? Impossible.
Thats my opinion anywhoo
Originally posted by Tinkleflower
This is simple.
Sometimes, it's not feasible to treat the cause. Sometimes it's not even possible. That's why we have Tylenol and the like - because it can sort out the pain in the meantime.
Can you truthfully seriously suggest that drug companies don't make drugs to heal people?
Here's a few examples:
Originally posted by Tinkleflower
This is simple.
Sometimes, it's not feasible to treat the cause. Sometimes it's not even possible. That's why we have Tylenol and the like - because it can sort out the pain in the meantime.
Can you truthfully seriously suggest that drug companies don't make drugs to heal people?
Here's a few examples:
Cervical cancer vaccine within 5 years
Interleukin to fight cancer
Synthroid, which fights hypothyroidism
Fosamax, which fights bone loss in post-menopausal women
Transplant anti-rejection drug
Antibiotics, capable of fighting infections that might otherwise kill the patient
Let's be realistic. There are millions of people alive today who simply would not be if it wasn't for various pharmaceutical discoveries.
Yes, it's also about making money. Drug research isn't cheap, and drugs don't pay for themselves. Could it be cheaper? Absolutely! Have you bothered to look into Canada and the UK, in terms of how the same drugs are much cheaper in those places? That's where a large part of the problem lies - with marketing and regulatory affairs.
With all due respect Josh, to say carte blanche that "it's just about treating the symptoms, and never the causes" is not seeing the big picture at all.