So why is 33rd Degree Eliphas Levi conjuring up a demon in this picture? Anyone care to explain?, page 3
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reply posted on 25-3-2009 @ 01:29 AM by KRISKALI777
Why and when have Buddhists been excluded from Freemasonry?
By what lodge ? I think it would probably be the Buddhist themselves that that decides if Buddhism is providing them with spiritual contentment!
if not, I would suggest that they are of the "laity", and are obviously searching for something more.
The Buddha means "Enlightened One". So therefore, it would not be imposible for those that are well versed in the Buddhist teachings to see the divine aspects within other religious deities- Dont forget, the Buddha was once a Hindu prince.
I don't think Atheism is the issue, its depends on what brand of Buddhist practice we speak of e.g. Zen, Ch'an. Some styles of teaching are more rigid than others, as per the Christian/ Islamic doctrines. i suppose the main difference is that one can follow the Buddhas teachings as philosophy, not dogma; Remember- BE A LIGHT UNTO YOURSELF!.

I agree with akjen in one respect -masonry has become a Boys-club for the powerful;but please remember that there are still those that join Masonry; who endeavor to understand its mystery, are of upright character, and discreetly bow to a God. They must also have tolerance for hermetic ritual.
This some would call sorcery etc, to others it is pantomime; creating psychological triggers for a deeper understanding of the rituals. It is believed to be subconsciously contained in our genetic memories from ancient times!!??
This will probably sound like a bunch of crap; I'll be happy to share my experiences!
Cheers


reply posted on 25-3-2009 @ 01:40 AM by RuneSpider
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Lecture about Buddhists being admitted to Masonry.
Buddhism is more or less a Philosophy, and not a religion.
Someone who only follows the philosophy, in and of itself, would not be admitted to Masonry. Masonry requires a belief in a higher power, whomever it may be.

A Christian Buddhist would be able ot be admitted, but a strict Buddhist would not be able to.


reply posted on 25-3-2009 @ 02:10 AM by letthereaderunderstand
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Do you ever think, maybe they just circulate that stuff to make people take their eyes off of reality and chase thin air? I mean if you've seen this really happen I could understand your concern. If I could attest that this drawing is a depiction of reality by myself being a witness, then I could attest that this is indeed something to be concerned about.

Don't forget what magic is. Illusion, not reality. Illusion is veiling reality to derive at a expected outcome. In reality anything is possible, in illusion the only outcome is wow and you are another dollar in debt.

Peace



reply posted on 25-3-2009 @ 10:30 PM by RuneSpider
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I can't answer on that, all I ccan say is I've met people who've identified themselves as Christians who follow a Buddhist philosophy.
If I run into them again, I'll ask them about it.


reply posted on 26-3-2009 @ 03:34 AM by KRISKALI777
I honestly believe that all religions hold the thread of divinity. Yes , no-matter if Christian, Buddhist (if you take this as religion; as say the Tibetans or Zen Buddhists), Islam, Sikhism ,Hindu, etc.
They all hold MANS interpretation of Godhead.
Unfortunately; the merits of religious doctrine are then destroyed by particular intolerant individuals trying to point the finger at each other, and state that they are the only righteous ones etc. Also within religions there is faction infighting- don't want to name anyone in particular; you know who you are!
If one wants to put a label on it, and most want ( see point above)- one can call it "Chaoist".
Peter J. Carrol, Phil Hine to name a couple of authors, have both written interesting and intelligent volumes about the principles of Chaos.
Within this philosophy one can pick and choose the ideals of any part of any religion, and practice it, anytime they choose.
Although this can be blatantly malevolent, it can also be wonderfully positive!
Alas; for one to claim that there should only be good, only be light, only be happiness etc; there would be no extremes within human experience to gauge anything by.
I guess the thing is that certain people can be flexible enough to follow philosophies, yet regard something a God-head.I know this for a fact, because I do!!!
Its personal decision whether one chooses to be flexible or rigid, but I guess there are just some who cannot survive without others making decisions for them!!!BAAAAHH BAAAHHH, quick go run; you may miss the flock!!! ''''

And I might add, the only real money that I have spent - is the purchases to fill my own modest library, so that I may have information at hand to ponder, and formulate an ever developing outlook.
P.s: Masonry does reinforce the fact that one must be charitable- so therefore, one must support a charity of your choice.
Kind of like tithe I suppose?, except the individual is subdued into thinking they will see the money spent on the thing that they deem worthy of charity.
A conflict of interest for me; I believe that Charity Begins @ Home!
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