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Britain to deport anyone who "justifies acts of violence"

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posted on Aug, 7 2005 @ 05:01 AM
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I think we are detracting from the topic of this thread.....




posted on Aug, 7 2005 @ 05:10 AM
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Sorry, just heckling the cop.

If the deportation of all people of 'foreign descent' who are suspected of having violent thoughts goes ahead and spreads to my location then I will be deported to (and reclaiming) my ancestors estates in Scotland.

Peacefully of course!




posted on Aug, 7 2005 @ 05:35 AM
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Roy,

What is so hard to understand about a law that is meant to protect its own?

I'll tell you this much...

No one comes to my house and disrespects me, nor my family.



posted on Aug, 7 2005 @ 07:18 AM
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Originally posted by SourGrapes
Roy,

What is so hard to understand about a law that is meant to protect its own?

I'll tell you this much...

No one comes to my house and disrespects me, nor my family.



posted on Aug, 7 2005 @ 07:41 AM
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Originally posted by Roy Robinson Stewart

Sorry, just heckling the cop.

If the deportation of all people of 'foreign descent' who are suspected of having violent thoughts goes ahead and spreads to my location then I will be deported to (and reclaiming) my ancestors estates in Scotland.

Peacefully of course!


I didnt know that scotland ( I live there BTW) had unsigned the union treaty....
Hmm must have missed that independance anouncement...dammm memos!



posted on Aug, 7 2005 @ 03:09 PM
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Roy you are a complete hypocrite, I would actually admire you if it wasn't so.
In one of your threads you talk about getting rid of hate and only having peace, you criticise anyone that 'hates' and yet you openly admit in this thread you have 'violent thoughts' which imply and are associated with hate.
When I asked you about your experiences and sources of knowledge for the world you got very funny when I asked you if you had even visted another country, which makes it pretty obvious you havn't. This only leaves books, the Media through TV and Radio and the Internet as your sources. All of which apart from books you condemn, and to be fair books and magazines are just as susceptable to corruption as the rest of the media and are not a good way to keep up with present day events at the rate they occur.

The thing is, when someone like me gets your goat you fire up just like the rest of us, you are no better, your thoughts are noble yet you cannot even live up to the samestandards you try and set for everyone else.
I had thoughts like yours and still do, but I have learned to accept that there is a realistic inbetween and the biggest step we can take is to actually acknowledge our own collective and personal fears, hates and differences.

You are no different from the rest of us, you are fighting a battle from your own perspective and this makes you no better or no worse than the rest of us, including Blair I'm afraid.



posted on Aug, 7 2005 @ 03:09 PM
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Originally posted by SourGrapes
Roy
Liberty and free speech are wonderful, until it's abused. People like you take those liberties away from those of us who hold such liberties sacred.


I take your liberty away by speaking freely?

Please proceed directly to the "Orwellian Doublespeak" thread.

Do not pass GO, Do not collect $200




posted on Aug, 7 2005 @ 03:12 PM
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Oh and here's a candidate for your special 'Doublespeak' thread, though I'm sure it was a delibrate error or joke....



Originally posted by Roy Robinson Stewart

Sorry, just heckling the cop.

If the deportation of all people of 'foreign descent' who are suspected of having violent thoughts goes ahead and spreads to my location then I will be deported to (and reclaiming) my ancestors estates in Scotland.

Peacefully of course!



Oh and before you start saying that's not what you meant I remind you of one of your statements...


Originally posted by Roy Robinson Stewartyou actually mean is that you approve of Tony Blair's implied or hidden stance. . . . . . . it is clearly the case that you do not agree with the stance which he actually proposed in his speech, because the policy in his speech is to deport anyone who justifies violence!!!!!

You are 'reading between the lines' . . . . a tactic best left to clairvoyants.




[edit on 7-8-2005 by AgentSmith]

[edit on 7-8-2005 by AgentSmith]



posted on Aug, 7 2005 @ 03:17 PM
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I just wish that if this law is to come into place, the very least old Blairy poos can do for us as a nation is also start deporting those UK born individuals, of any race or religion, that kill people. Why the hell not? There are far more people dying from countryman-to-countryman murder today than there is via this so called wave of "Terrorism", so why can't we do something about our own bastards as well as the foreign ones.



posted on Aug, 7 2005 @ 03:27 PM
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Originally posted by chebob
the very least old Blairy poos can do for us as a nation is also start deporting those UK born individuals, of any race or religion, that kill people.


Old Blairy poos is one of those people !

And there are certain British police officers who kill people!

Imprison them please.




posted on Aug, 7 2005 @ 03:30 PM
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Originally posted by AgentSmith
Oh and here's a candidate for your special 'Doublespeak' thread, though I'm sure it was a delibrate error or joke....



Originally posted by Roy Robinson Stewart

Sorry, just heckling the cop.

If the deportation of all people of 'foreign descent' who are suspected of having violent thoughts goes ahead and spreads to my location then I will be deported to (and reclaiming) my ancestors estates in Scotland.

Peacefully of course!




Agent Smith, Of course I was making a joke, but my statement was not doublespeak.

You appear to be confused about Doublespeak.





[edit on 7-8-2005 by Roy Robinson Stewart]



posted on Aug, 7 2005 @ 03:31 PM
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Originally posted by Roy Robinson Stewart


Old Blairy poos is one of those people !

And there are certain British police officers who kill people!

Imprison them please.



Let's just do what we did with the convicts years ago - send New Labour to Oz.



posted on Aug, 7 2005 @ 03:36 PM
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Originally posted by AgentSmith
Roy you are a complete hypocrite, I would actually admire you if it wasn't so.
In one of your threads you talk about getting rid of hate and only having peace, you criticise anyone that 'hates' and yet you openly admit in this thread you have 'violent thoughts' which imply and are associated with hate.


Agent Smith, I admit to no violent thoughts.

Please find the post where I "Openly admit" to violent thoughts.

There are none!!!





posted on Aug, 7 2005 @ 03:41 PM
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And of course I imagine that we must deport the following for 'justifying acts of violence':

1) All military bodies - leaving us defenceless
2) All police for using force/violence in apprehending dangerous criminals
3) All people that give paedophiles and such the punishment they really deserve
4) Parents disciplining children
5) People protecting their own lives
6) People protecting their own property
7) People protecting those dear to them

etc, etc....

No, I and the majority don't want anarchy, but you have to fight fire with fire sometimes...
Yes, I know you'd like to use water, but there's not enough and the fire is more powerful. Thats why when fighting huge forest fires they will actually burn perimeters around the fire to contain it.

It's thanks to extreme liberal minded pacifists like you that we have so many problems now. All the good people have willfully obeyed the ott laws and restrictions and the scum of society (and this means anyone of any colour, race, religon, age, anything) takes over, because they don't care!

Nice one.....

clap...clap....clap..................clap...........

Look at your beautiful creation...

Oh you can't, because I've been where you live and it's pretty much unspoilt on the whole thank god otherwise I wouldn't have anywhere decent to go on holiday. When I was there I asked the same questions as you and it's easy to preach about how to do things, but when you have to live in the thick of it all it's a whole different ballgame. You don't even have a clue about what your talking about so why don't you try and learn from everyone else.

Your lucky because your country doesn't have any natural resources and it's isolated. It isn't a strategic point and there is nothing of military or financial gain. Your largely unthreatened and you don't have anything to gain or lose.

If you had to live as part of the rest of the world or you actually bothered to listen to other people's tales and tried to relate to them you might actually understand.

[edit on 7-8-2005 by AgentSmith]



posted on Aug, 7 2005 @ 03:43 PM
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Originally posted by Roy Robinson Stewart
Agent Smith, I admit to no violent thoughts.

Please find the post where I "Openly admit" to violent thoughts.

There are none!!!




You say it here:


If the deportation of all people of 'foreign descent' who are suspected of having violent thoughts goes ahead and spreads to my location then I will be deported to (and reclaiming) my ancestors estates in Scotland.


Why would you be suspected of having violent thoughts unless you have them? Are you arrogant enough to think you are significant enough for your government to even look you up let alone go to the expense of deporting you when you havn't done anything wrong?

[edit on 7-8-2005 by AgentSmith]



posted on Aug, 7 2005 @ 03:48 PM
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Agent Smith, If WW3 just happens to be a no holds barred nuclear conflict then NZ will be dangerously radioactive.

I notice that after accusing me of being a hypocrite on the basis of the erroneous idea that I have openly advocated violence on this forum, you decline to either 1) provide evidence that I am promoting violence, or 2) Retract your statement. You are thus unsatisfactory as a conversational partner (IMO)




posted on Aug, 7 2005 @ 03:50 PM
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Originally posted by Roy Robinson Stewart
Agent Smith, Of course I was making a joke, but my statement was not doublespeak.

You appear to be confused about Doublespeak.



Your absolutely right, I got Doublespeak and Doublethink confused, sorry about that..



posted on Aug, 7 2005 @ 03:52 PM
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Originally posted by Roy Robinson Stewart
Agent Smith, If WW3 just happens to be a no holds barred nuclear conflict then NZ will be dangerously radioactive.

I notice that after accusing me of being a hypocrite on the basis of the erroneous idea that I have openly advocated violence on this forum, you decline to either 1) provide evidence that I am promoting violence, or 2) Retract your statement. You are thus unsatisfactory as a conversational partner (IMO)



You imply it in your statement as quoted above, I apologise as you said you were being sarcastic and I hereby withdraw my statement..

Maybe you should 'say what you mean'..



posted on Aug, 7 2005 @ 03:54 PM
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Originally posted by AgentSmith

Originally posted by Roy Robinson Stewart
Agent Smith, I admit to no violent thoughts.

Please find the post where I "Openly admit" to violent thoughts.

There are none!!!




You say it here:


If the deportation of all people of 'foreign descent' who are suspected of having violent thoughts goes ahead and spreads to my location then I will be deported to (and reclaiming) my ancestors estates in Scotland.


Why would you be suspected of having violent thoughts unless you have them? Are you arrogant enough to think you are significant enough for your government to even look you up let alone go to the expense of deporting you when you havn't done anything wrong?

[edit on 7-8-2005 by AgentSmith]



Smith, you misquoted me, that's really unfair!!

You and I both know that I said (in jest, as I already pointed out) that I would reclaim my ancestors estates in Scotland Quote: "Peacefully of course!"

Editing out the part where I said that I would act peacefully just so that you can 'prove' that I am advocating violence is a very poor tactic.





posted on Aug, 7 2005 @ 03:58 PM
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Hardly, for anyone with reading skills they will notice higher up I quoted you whole post. Lower down after becoming concerned about being accused of 'excessive posting' and the assumption that most people including you would read the whole thread or at least the posts above mine, I only posted the part that seems relevent.
One can argue that only the last sentence was sarcasm and the first part is genuine, as I read it.

I suggest you go back right to the beginning and follow your OWN example and post the entire 1 Hour and 17 minute speech that Blair made so that we can see the statement you have based this post on in it's full context.
It's 'really unfair' that we should be expected to just take your word for it based on the snippet from a newspaper's interpretation.

In fact I suggest that you and everyone on the board quote entire texts to ensure that there is no risk of anything ever being misinterpreted out of context, to hell with 'excessive posting' rules and relying on people to actually bother and read for themselves.


[edit on 7-8-2005 by AgentSmith]



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