posted on Aug, 5 2005 @ 01:21 PM
Originally posted by fritz
was the Provisional Irish republican Army defeated by the military or by the will of the hard pressed people of Northern Island?
- What "defeat"?
The only person dumb enough to have been insisting this negotiated process has been a defeat or a surrender is that nutter Paisley........who claimed
it was the British army that has just "surrendered".
DUP leader Ian Paisley said "It is a surrender to the IRA.
Will they now give up their claim to Northern Island and the dream of a 'United' Ireland?
- The aim of a United Ireland is a legitimate political aim for anyone to hold, why should anyone give up on it?
Go look at the birth rates and the demographics of the way the population works out.
A UI is inevitable, IMO.
Have we here, at least, finally beaten the terrorists and forced them to give up the armed struggle?
- Are you simply trolling? Do you have no clue as to what happened in NI?
Each side slogged it out to a standstill; no-one lost and no-one won.
We have had a negotiated cessation, a negotiated political settlement and now finally we are to have a negotiated complete demilitarisation.
The whole point about why even the (never talk to terrorists) tory Gov - oh yes even Mrs Thatch's - was that everybody knew no-one was going to win
as far back as the late 1980's/early 1990's and a costly stalement was well worth avoiding.
Was Tony Blair right to shake the hand of Dr Ian Paisley but not that of a master terrorist like Gerry Adams?
- It'll happen sometime (publicly, it already has privately; same a Trimble, ex UUP leader, did too).
Yesterday's terrorist has a knack of turning out to be tomorrows stateman from time to time.
........so, I take it you give no credit at all for Adams & Co. delivering a public formal end to the IRA campaign, hmmm?