Originally posted by StellarX
The United States will be destroyed in case of a nuclear war with Russia. Russia has a fair chance of surviving as a national entity considering the
vast underground industrial base and civil defense shelters.
Originally posted by StellarX
Has any of the last ten responders gone too the trouble of reading page 3 and 4 and if so what was unconvincing about my arguments? The information i
provided there was but part of Soviet defensive strategy to win a possible nuclear war ( strategically and with most of critical infrastructure
intact) with casaulties likely below 20 or even 10 million and there is far far more information if a effective ( wich it was certainly by the late
80's) ABM system does not mean anything in your book. Soviet killer sats and 400 square miles of underground work space ( in just on facility) goes a
long way to making up the rest of what the SU would have needed.
Let me assert again, as others have:
Inevitable Mutually Assured Destruction
Most of those Russia underground industrial complexes and civil defense shelters are not long term survival solutions, neither being adequate enough
to survive the long term effects of a number of devastating nuclear strikes. This was admitted by the Russian's after the Cold War ended. Also, you
do not take into account US underground industrial complexes and civil defense shelters, which neither would have been adequate to survive the long
term inherent effects of a number of devastating nuclear strikes. Your pointing out such underground complexes and shelters begs the questions: How
much notice would be given when and if a nuclear war was impending? Would it be enough time to adequately move population into those underground
complexes, etc? And if so, the number of population that would be moved into those underground complexes to survive
would be what in relation
to total population? How long would they be able to survive in those underground facilities?
The point here, is that though you want to dwell in hypotheticals and base assumptions on who would win a nuclear war, bravado, assumptions, and
speculation aside, a near total release of the arsenals of both Russia and the US [at height of Cold War was estimated for both at over 10,000+
warheads] would have technically destroyed both nations, demographically, militarily, economically, near politically, and culturally. Russia has near
145,000,000 million people, 75-80% living in the Western European side of Russia---easily targeted, and the other 20-25% live in the Eastern Asian
side---also easily targeted. The US has near 300,000,000 million people, and the same can be calculated and established on the US, which the Russians
were and are well aware of. And again, this is not
a land mass size ratio contestation. Furthremore, none of this conjecturing and assuming
takes into account the inevitable climate change that would take place because of the number of nuclear weapons detonated and released, thus,
affecting the earth's atmosphere, nor the other environmental conditions that would be inherent with a total nuclear war between Russia and the
Total, unadulterated nuclear war between Russia/Soviet Union and the US would be a no-win scenario
, no matter how many people want to
and a win
Humankind has nothing on cockroaches. Bet.
[edit on 26-12-2005 by Seekerof]