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It's not at all the same thing. Stopping the subway searches is restoring the civil rights of New Yorkers. Catching criminals is a whole different
matter.
We KNOW the ways to stop the bombers, these ideas have been talked about for YEARS now, and nothing has been done. Secure the borders and ports,
ferret out potential bombers through police work, you know, investiigation. If our government didn't act in such a shady fashion, cities could even
do serious outreach to the muslim community. That's assuming there is a real threat, and it comes from that quarter. Problem is, nobody is sure
what's going on, because there is a pervasive appearance of wrongdoing.
This is the way to stop terrorism, within the law, respecting the rights of citizens who are the targets of terrorists, maintaing the practices and
principles that separate us from the terrorists. The people of New York should not have to worry about the good intentions of their government, they
have more than enough to worry about already.
We KNOW what can be done to stop the flow of contraband, it doesn't get done.
Don't complain about the NYCLU, when what you should be complaining about is incompetent government failing to use common sense and your tax dollars
wisely. They've passed the burden of action onto citizens, and now everybody is guilty because they can't catch the bad guys that are supposedly
everywhere trying to kill us.
I would call it parody, were it funny, because this is not the way a Free society treats its citizens. In a free society, you can go about your
business without being randomly searched, photgraphed, recorded, bullied by armed men, asked for your papers, detained, etc., etc.. In a free society
everybody gets a fair trial. In a free society people aren't treated differently because of their skin color or their preferred style of dress.
It gets worse with every month, the security apparatus keeps growing like a cancer, and if you disagree, people say stuff to you like "Get out!" and
"You're helping the terrorists win!" and "Stop being un-American!"
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I think you know how useless the searches are, in terms of catching people who want to do something, but still you support them?
This is not helping. This is the appearance of helping. There are too many things our government knows they ought to be doing, that they're not, I
mentioned some earlier but common sense should dictate them. (Ports, borders, visas, community outreach).
For example, if you're the State Department, don't grant Visa waivers to people who don't qualify. Simple, couldn't be more so, no?
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Catching criminals and removing the civil liberties of innocent citizens are not the same.
We're on a speeding train right now, America. The way I see it there are three kinds of people aboard. The ones who don't notice, the ones who
don't care, and the ones who can fly. The ones who both noticed, and cared, jumped off a little while ago. So, there were four types, and now
there're three. When the train crashes, there will be two aboard, and one aloft, chuckling, with a bag full of money.
I'm the second sort, which type are you, if you don't mind me asking?