Numbers and their significance, page 6

Maybe they'll have to. Recently a 1,500-year-old papyrus manuscript was examined, using new technologies to "read" the heretofore illegible script. The document is written in Greek and is the oldest known version of the Book of the Revelation. The tiny fragment confirms what many scholars and churchmen have long suspected. The text actually reads:

"Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man: and his number is 616."

what does this mean for us????????

For the other locked thread that was told to post here.

Well what manuscript was it found? A Gnostic? Please post link.

Anywho if it says add the number 616 it is 13 of course and the only significant history of 13 is the 13th day the templars were attacked and killed in france I belive. Add 13 together you get four which there is something in relation to St John and the number 4. I forget I think it may just be an important chapter of his. See wikipedia for more on that.

666 being a number of a man? Adding names is to silly I belive if it is literal it would be something obvious. I can not come up with anything as far as a number of a man being 666 can anyone else?

666 I find interesting upside down is 999 or if you add 6+6+6=18 and 18 adds to 9 but that is mere entertainment and would not really be more than that but entertainment value. Or 18 being 6 x trinity or 666 being 6 trinity or 600/3=200 trinities.

I will give this some deeper thought. See what i can come up with how a man's number could be 666 without adding names up as far as some sort of alphabet code that would be to far fetched. Someone care to join in on this with me...

EDIT:
Further thought
What about 666th postistion fo something?

Oh boy this is interesting the Hebrew alphabet has numeric values
ו has the numeric value of 6 the biblical translation for "ו" is "W"
so 6 threescore 6 is WWW...anyone care to take this somewhere?

Oh wait someone already had my thought! Read more here:
www.av1611.org...

This sounds like it is getting down to the realy meaning. Anyway view the hebrew alphabet and you can see the numeric value system. The problem is it +6+6+6=18 or 6x6=36 whatever it maybe can really be many names.

Well after reading the above link I think WWW can be up for debate

1)666 is total of the numerical values in the letters of the antichrist's name
Site states WWW is not a name but it is the name of world wide web.

2)666 is total of the numerical values of the letters in the antichrist's name
site says www is value of 18 well 6 threescore 6 can viewed two ways, which is correct is left for debate on the true answer.

3)666 is the number of a man, the antichrist, or the beast
Site states not a man. Biblical staement says or the beast.

4)The mark of the beast controls the ability to buy or sell
The World Wide Web currently does not. Yet it doesn not have full control but there are various E-programs in the works that would rate buyers by value so this can be something it has yet to evolve to.

5)The mark of the beast goes in the right hand or forehead
Sites states not. Well is mark literal? Mouse is in your right hand and if forehead is not literal well the obvious.

6)The mark is symbolic of the antichrist or beast
obvious

7)The mark is received only after worshiping the beast
Referiing to number 6 yet is is mark literal ?

Anyone care to add thought. WWW brings people farther away from the outside world every day in many ways so who knows. It is one thing in I would think every country. However if WWW is debunked than we would have to get to the point of what is the total value of 6 threescore six. is threescore a ref. to multiply? Also in the bible it states:

In Revelation 13:18 we're curiously told to "count the number of the beast".
also
Revelation 13:17, 15:2 it's called "the number of his NAME".

so 666,18 or 36? anyway once we answer we can go on to check Hebrew numeric values against names of people around the world.

Next question would be first name?last name? combo of both names?

So like many things in the bible man can come up with many meanings.

We are closer to the answer with this who cares to take it a step further?

Sorry Mods but I want to post this in religion over on BTS hope it doesn't cause a stir just would like to see more hits and replies...

[edit on 26-10-2005 by japike]