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Originally posted by ghostsoldier
For a conspiracy site, so many of you seem to beleive everything your government feeds you... Perhaps you should go find a George W. fansite to waste your time at...
Originally posted by whaaa
If they really wanted to save lives make people take another driving test when they get their social security.
[edit on 8-8-2005 by whaaa]
Originally posted by GREGNOW
LAUNCHPAD, my point is no avergage american citizens are getting rounded up and NO we have not seen it "time and time again" like you say. If it has been happening time and time again, then show me where and to who???
Point is they are NOT just going to start "rounding up" average american citizens because they pass the new patriot act. what point is that going to serve except to start a public outcry and get a ton of lawyers to start fighting the gov't.?
It serves no purpose. People are already at an outcry over Guntanemo and that has nothing to do with "average american citizens". so can you not see the huge outcry that would be caused if for some reason the gov't. starts rounding up average americans. It does not even make sense (except to those who are paranoid).
Bottom line is that if you have nothing to hide or are not making threats or you are not doing anything illegal, you are NOT going to be "rounded up". Authorities do not even have enough resources to do that if they wanted to and again it serves no purpose at all anyway.
Sometimes the law defends plunder and participates in it. Thus the beneficiaries are spared the shame and danger that their acts would otherwise involve... But how is this legal plunder to be identified? Quite simply. See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them and gives it to the other persons to whom it doesn't belong. See if the law benefits one citizen at the expense of another by doing what the citizen himself cannot do without committing a crime. Then abolish that law without delay ... No legal plunder; this is the principle of justice, peace, order, stability, harmony and logic.-Frederic Bastiat
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