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NEWS: DEA Arrests Canadian...In Canada

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posted on Jul, 29 2005 @ 06:42 PM
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The DEA is facing serious opposition as Vancouver police raid a marijuana store on their behalf. Among those arrested was Marc Emery, head of the local Marijuana Party.
 



www.canada.com
VANCOUVER -- Police have raided a Vancouver business run by the head of the B.C. Marijuana Party.

And it looks like the raid was ordered by the U.S.

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The charges outlined in the warrant indicate it is on behalf of the American government.

Emery and two other people are accused of conspiracy to manufacture marijuana, conspiracy to distribute seeds, and money laundering.


Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


I am confused. This guy was selling pot seeds online. Why did BC police only act when prodded by the Americans? I am disappointed in VPD, but I have suspicions that due to Emery's status as 'folk hero' and 'politician', they feared the backlash from his many customers and stoned well-wishers.

Now I as a person have no objection to pot use. However, the fact of the matter is that most of the drug trade is funded by organized crime. So, every dime bag you buy goes largely into the pockets of gangs and bikers. That is where my objections come from.

Again, disappointment. The VPD/ RCMP should have been busting down this guy's door a long time ago.

DE

EDIT: The spelling!

[edit on 29-7-2005 by DeusEx]




posted on Jul, 29 2005 @ 06:45 PM
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I don't get this, seeds are legal. Are they illegal in the States?



posted on Jul, 29 2005 @ 06:46 PM
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Intrepid, I believe so. Also, there is the problem of who he was selling them to. I suspect they were not what you'd call 'law abiding citizenry'.

DE



posted on Jul, 29 2005 @ 07:04 PM
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I have a serious problem with this on several levels. First, there's a problem with a weed[, whatever, that's been around longer than we have on this planet?

Second, that another nation is dictating our policy? BIGGIE HERE!

Not that it's stopped them before.

I see this as the same as immigation. We keep getting blamed for our lax immigration policy, it is, but their borders are their own, as are ours. POLICE IT! You don't like our policy, enforce your own. Basic math covers that.



posted on Jul, 29 2005 @ 07:06 PM
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I believe viable seeds are indeed illegal in the United States.

But I agree with the rest of your points intrepid.



posted on Jul, 29 2005 @ 07:11 PM
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It's amazing to me the level of hubris we're dealing with here.

Making seeds, created by God, illegal to possess.

This is insane when you think about it.

But our politicians don't blink an eye when they make statements so irrational. I wonder why? Could it be because of large donors like DuPont? I think there just might be a connection.

It's high time marijuana was decriminalized.



posted on Jul, 29 2005 @ 07:12 PM
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Indeed, possession or purchase of Marijuana seeds is illegal in the US, so many people try to buy them from sources outside the country and have them shipped in, often at great risk of seizure by customs. I suspect some US based growers were busted and rolled over on whomever they got their seeds from thus prompting the raid. Rather suprising Canada is doing work for the DEA especialy since they have been alot more lax on Marijuana lately.



posted on Jul, 29 2005 @ 07:20 PM
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Originally posted by WyrdeOne
Making seeds, created by God, illegal to possess.

This is insane when you think about it.


I agree, put if you say this about marijuana, you have to also say it about the coca leaf, the ergot fungus, and the poppy.

They're certainly not ready to do that.



posted on Jul, 29 2005 @ 07:27 PM
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I'm wondering if this might be a symptom of Patriot Act II coming into play.
There is a certain amount of crossborder influence going to be happening and I'm sure some of those packages from his 'head shop' were coming into the good old U S of A.
Certainly the good folks who spare us from ourselves will use PAII for all sorts of things vaguely associated with terrorism.



posted on Jul, 29 2005 @ 07:32 PM
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Thats the point though, if the seeds are legal in Canada then why did the arrests occur? Why are American laws being enforced in Canada by Canadian police? That doesnt sit well with me and im not even Canadian!



posted on Jul, 29 2005 @ 07:33 PM
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I gather he was shipping them into the United States.



posted on Jul, 29 2005 @ 07:35 PM
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I find it funny that there aren't problems with the law below the border with Prozac, Xanax, hell, Crazy Glue. Then again, those product make money for Big Biz.


Vote guys, this is a viable thread.

Jack Daniels says, "Don't vote on this thread".



posted on Jul, 29 2005 @ 07:40 PM
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Originally posted by intrepid
I find it funny that there aren't problems with the law below the border with Prozac, Xanax, hell, Crazy Glue. Then again, those product make money for Big Biz.


Well many common products sold by major companies, including the famous Coca-Cola, included highly addictive drugs before they became illegal, so I find this argument, though attractive, a little lacking.



posted on Jul, 29 2005 @ 07:40 PM
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Originally posted by djohnsto77
I gather he was shipping them into the United States.

Thats irrelevant.

To extrapolate the point logically, would the United States allow American police to arrest U.S publishers selling The Satanic Verses through the internet, into Iran? (Edit: Disregarding current embargoes hehe)

Owning that book in Iraq carries the death sentence. Would America acquiesce to Iranian law and give up one of its citizens for breaking the laws of another country?

I think this is absurd.

[edit on 29/7/05 by subz]



posted on Jul, 29 2005 @ 07:42 PM
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What about if I was selling arms in the UK without a permit? Would that be okay? Is that your logic, Subz?

DE



posted on Jul, 29 2005 @ 07:42 PM
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No subz, but there are probably agreements on such things between Canada and the U.S.

This certainly didn't happen without the approval of the Canadian government.



posted on Jul, 29 2005 @ 07:45 PM
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Originally posted by DeusEx
What about if I was selling arms in the UK without a permit? Would that be okay? Is that your logic, Subz?

No because I believe its againt American law to sell firearms without a permit as well


Also we have custom laws here that we'd use to charge the people buying such firearms. We would ask for the extradition of the illegal arms dealer and probably get second crack after their own government had charged them


Bad example but I know what you're getting at.

If it was legal in the home country (i.e. if British citizens bought hardcore pornography from Germany) then I would not accept a British arrest warrant for the German dealer.

[edit on 29/7/05 by subz]



posted on Jul, 29 2005 @ 07:56 PM
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Well many common products sold by major companies, including the famous Coca-Cola, included highly addictive drugs before they became illegal, so I find this argument, though attractive, a little lacking.


djohnsto77, the logic is there, thank you for proving my point that deliterious substances are tollerated in America, as long as Big Biz gets their share.



posted on Jul, 29 2005 @ 08:02 PM
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Well it was accepted by the people, but apparently not the government....one of the few conspiracy theories I do buy is that after the prohibition was repealed, the agency to enforce it needed something to do so started demonizing drugs. I think it's true that DEA is a direct descedant of the governmental agency set up to control alcohol during the prohibition.

But my original point was doing that DID impact business.



posted on Jul, 29 2005 @ 08:08 PM
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I noticed all the hits on this thread and it still isn't upgraded. I blame everyone in Fiji.

Just kidding.







 
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