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Topic started on 29-7-2005 @ 02:53 PM by skippytjc
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Oh, I forgot to mention: He glorifies martyrdom. Maybe that’s why Iran has created the new
martyrdom corps
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“Ahmadi-Nejad: [...] Is there art that is more beautiful, more divine, and more eternal than the art of martyrdom? A nation with martyrdom knows no
captivity. Those who wish to undermine this principle undermine the foundations of our independence and national security. They undermine the
foundation of our eternity.
"The message of the [Islamic] Revolution is global, and is not restricted to a specific place or time. It is a human message, and it will move
forward.
"Have no doubt... Allah willing, Islam will conquer what? It will conquer all the mountain tops of the world."
So at least the Iranian President’s policies are consistent with the old ones. I wonder if their rapidly developing nuclear weapons program is part
of this agenda?
How about thier brand new solid fuel rockets breakthrough? I bet
those merry up nicely with those nukes...
NAH!!! I bet we have Iran all wrong. They just want to spread world peace and happiness. I bet those new solid fueled rockets are made to shoot
Skittles ande cotton candy at us....The joy.
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reply posted on 29-7-2005 @ 03:43 PM by ludo182
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uh... looks like this guy will give reasons to the US to go ahead and attack Iran in the near future if he continues with his aggresive rethoric.
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reply posted on 29-7-2005 @ 03:46 PM by Freedom_for_sum
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Originally posted by skippytjc
NAH!!! I bet we have Iran all wrong. They just want to spread world peace and happiness. I bet those new solid fueled rockets are made to shoot
Skittles ande cotton candy at us....The joy.

Nope--they are there to spread that wonderful religion of peace the world over. Did you forget to mention the 40,000 strong corps of martyrs that have
been recruited?
editted for spelling
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reply posted on 29-7-2005 @ 03:51 PM by deltaboy
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to those ATS members who are residents at mountain tops, be warned for u may be killed by a martyr who wants u as a slave in paradise. also be warned
to lookout for people who are mostly like Persians with thick padded jackets with wires sticking out leading along their arms to their hands.
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reply posted on 29-7-2005 @ 04:13 PM by paperclip
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Before blindly believing everything written on the internet, read an article on what or who the so-called "middle east media research institute"
really are, a cover for certain people (mainly inteligence) with a very clear agenda:
www.guardian.co.uk...
They twist stories to fit their agenda. They've been exposed several times already.
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reply posted on 29-7-2005 @ 04:13 PM by Umbrax
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I'm not trying to defend the new President of Iran, but is there anyway of using a less bias news source for this?
Above linked is Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI).
MEMRI is founded by two guys who are formerly of Israeli military intelligence.
Yigal Carmon, one of MEMRI's founders, is a former adviser on terrorism to the Israeli Prime Ministers.
MEMRI is not an objective news source.
Is there an objective news source running this story? Once again it looks like a Anti-Islam site is being projected as a credible news source.
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reply posted on 29-7-2005 @ 04:16 PM by djohnsto77
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I have him on record for making similar statements in my thread here:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
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reply posted on 29-7-2005 @ 04:22 PM by sminkeypinkey
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Of course when a 'Christian' cleric claims 'Christianity' will end up 'defeating' and dominating all other religion - and billions are spent on
'missons' around the globe - that is different, right?
It couldn't just be the same sort of aim they all desire and talk about, could it?
BTW, 'MEMRI', Richard Perle?  Jayzuss wept
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reply posted on 29-7-2005 @ 04:35 PM by Umbrax
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Unfortunately MEMRI is cited in several publications.
The Times, The Washington Times, The Weekly Standard, The Jerusalem Post, The National Review, The Toronto Sun, Wall Street Journal,
Libertad, FrontPageMagazine, Columbia Journalism Review, Associated Press, The Jerusalem Post, etcetera. 
www.sourcewatch.org...
I can't say what is being reported isn't true, by Ramita Navai or MEMRI, but we need to be aware of disinfo tactics in the media.
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reply posted on 29-7-2005 @ 04:37 PM by xu
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to me it appeared that US already owns Iran.
somewhere between the nuke talks and the election there was a silence phase. and this new guy is probably installed by CIA.
even one of your own Congressman says that the Iran election was rigged and he says he informed CIA and CIA didnt really cared. and this congressman
says he predicted the election result by percentage accuracy. the response of CIA to this congressman is something like "you do your job, we will do
ours". ofcourse the congressman doesnt say that CIA installed this new guy. but to me its highly probable, if you look at it from out of the box.
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reply posted on 29-7-2005 @ 04:41 PM by evanfitz
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Sheesh we can't even have a simple thread without someone blaming something on the US.
Thats a new one, Irans president was rigged by the CIA.
Hell, why would Washington even suggest that its rigged when they infact rigged it. Makes little sense.
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reply posted on 29-7-2005 @ 04:46 PM by American Mad Man
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Yet another reason for me to love those good natured Muslims in the middle east.
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reply posted on 29-7-2005 @ 04:48 PM by xu
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Originally posted by evanfitz
Hell, why would Washington even suggest that its rigged when they infact rigged it. Makes little sense. 
as if washington is formed by only one being. about the rigged election listen here
from the own voice of the congressman.
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reply posted on 29-7-2005 @ 04:54 PM by centurion1211
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Originally posted by paperclip
They twist stories to fit their agenda. They've been exposed several times already.

Paperclip, you'd know something about twisting stories to fit an agenda, wouldn't you? BTW, (from your avatar) did you have to put down your AK-47
to type your post or can you do both at the same time?
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reply posted on 29-7-2005 @ 05:00 PM by Seekerof
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Originally posted by evanfitz
Hell, why would Washington even suggest that its rigged when they infact rigged it. Makes little sense.

Thats definately a educated assertion, eh, evanfitz?
Did Washington tell the Iranian government to forbid/disqualify nearly one thousand possible candidates before the elections? Did Washington
demand Iran use the Revolutionary Guards to intimidate and force voters, who were boycotting the elections, to vote? Did Washington tell Iran to bus
in voters? Did Washington tell Iran to have those within the Revolutionary Guards and government people to vote multiple times?
The Iranian elections were about as legit as those held by Saddam when he recieved 98% of the Iraqi vote. Washington must have had something to do
with that mockery also?
Be assured of one thing: opposition to the Iranian mullah run government is increasingly daily. Its just a matter of time....
seekerof
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reply posted on 29-7-2005 @ 05:05 PM by LA_Maximus
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If this is true, than this guy is a Moron.
He's sure not gonna win over any Europeans allies with a remark like that, especially with their growing Islamic communities.
Thats ok, America has Iran in its gunsights and their little Islamic "revolution" is coming to an end. Theres No way America will pull its forces
outta the ME, until this regime is no more.
Maximu§
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reply posted on 29-7-2005 @ 05:09 PM by Benevolent Heretic
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 Oh, I forgot to mention: He glorifies martyrdom. 
This is slightly off topic. I'm certainly not supporting a religion taking over the planet, but you talk about martyrdom as though it's the most
despicable thing a person could do.
Main Entry: mar·tyr·dom
1 : the suffering of death on account of adherence to a cause and especially to one's religious faith
Just realize that Jesus is one of the most famous martyrs in the world. Martyrdom is glorified, not just by Iran's new president...
Carry on.
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reply posted on 29-7-2005 @ 05:11 PM by djohnsto77
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The Christian view of martyrdom is to die under persecution for one's religious views, while the radical Islamic view is one who dies by blowing
himself up and taking out as many infidels as possible.
I think they're quite different.
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reply posted on 29-7-2005 @ 05:13 PM by YoungN
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It seems like he wants a one world government too.
Each day this man gets crazier and crazier, or maybe he's a good actor playing his role perfectly.
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reply posted on 29-7-2005 @ 05:19 PM by Seekerof
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Depends on how one obtains martyrdom, eh?
Obviously and according to Islamic teachings, suicide and the targeting of civilains is strictly forbidden.
I guess the twisting of Islam and its teachings to redefine martyrdom is en vogue these days, huh?
Hey, tell you what, maybe the new Iranian president can lead by example?!
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