First I'd like to thank you all, everyone for joining in on this thread... its all I wanted, a little discussion on this situation... and you've all
graciously granted me that. And I'd like to apologize for not showing up earlier TO ACTUALLY JOIN IN on the thread I started and desired to partake
in because ... I've been busy with some personal crap that I actually did NOT see coming (irony) .. which btw.. long story short.. I won the court
case (basically). Great lawyer. Dumb lawsuit.
Anyways this puts me in a bad spot because I want to address each of your posts, but I've already taken a lot of your time. So I've decided to make
3 posts (which is figure is fair for a thread this long had I actually been around to address this thread during its creation... I was way too busy
(no I wasn't in jail.. just busy). First post is people who really deserve my respect because they gave me theirs .. no matter their opinion. IF, I
did not include you in here and YOU DID contribute positively.. I so apologize in advance, because I KNOW I've left someone out, but I'm really beat
on this subject just for the moment, and I'M NOT doing another reedit of this post... so I am sorry.. and I am really tired from my really long day..
and I really just want to get this completed so I can play some Metal Gear Solid 3 and slip away for awhile, because I am frelling beat (any ATSer who
has never played the series but plays games to ANY degree.. is seriously making a HUGE error in personal entertainment selection.. I'll leave that
plug there at that). The second post is some people I want to straighten out... this way... most of you can ignore it and not waste your time going
over it.. just some things that I feel need to be said. Third post.. if I can actually pull it all off before falling asleep at the keyboard.. is an
update.. maybe that will wait a day or two as some interesting things are developing even as I type this (you hear this rumor about the thing in
Chicago and the Indictments??? WTF?!?!?)
And I'm sorry for any typos at this point (and formatting errors.. I'm really tired of editing this thing, and need to find a better way to do
this.. NOT that I make a point of making posts this long.. or ever again for that matter, unless of course.. its warrented.. like I feel it was in
this case) .. but you can forgive me as I've worked my fingers over on this whole thing.. even they are a little sore at this point.
Oh, and in order of posting (for the most part) .. because.. that's fair...
YoungN: Yes, I can understand how that might seem a bit confusing in a long read like that, so I will clarify for you and anyone else who might have
not understood me.
When we look back in history will we say that WW3 started on 9-11? This is often said by many of the posters here and elsewhere on the net, but do we
say that WW2 started when the Reichstag burned down? For different people of different nations, WW2 started at different times, and this is because
WW2 wasn't the two big dogs on the block going at each other on one afternoon, it was many little alliances all attacking different locations at
different times. To keep this short and simple, I'll say that... I feel the ides of August will be another one of those points where people in the
future may disagree with each other over what the true flash point of WW3 really was. For us in the present, all I'm trying to say is that... this
will probably take us to the 'next level' of this conflict that is obviously being planned by TPTB; will the real fighting start shortly after
that... or do we have one year left before the real action starts up? Make no mistake about it... if there is a land grab in Jerusalem and any Muslim
structure is jeopardized... the real action will begin not very long after that. So, yes.. I feel that we are in for it shortly.. but (because
historically) the clouds of war may give us one year to prepare ourselves for the bread lines and the camps... and the daily collection of the bodies
of those who did not live through the night for disposal. However, I do STRONGLY believe that AT THE MOST we ONLY have one year left.
Thanks for asking for clarification dude, typically on 'other' sites users would have just attacked me for being inconsistent or something silly
like that. You're a smart youngster, YoungN (if I'm interpreting the nickname correctly).
I'm glad that I got you a little pumped.. just remember not to take this stuff too seriously please (I think I might want to see a "persons under 18
please refrain from reading this post" notice in the subject line of threads implemented somehow here.. but that's another topic completely.. I am
totally AGAINST frightening children - duh) .. leave the stress to people like me who have nothing better to do. YOU... go live... play and enjoy
everything you can... while you can, simply because this situation can not stay stalemated in that area forever.. and many of us know it... its just a
question of WHEN it is going to happen, and this Ark scam is an excellent opportunity for it all to go down.
Sourgrapes: Your shuttle comments... amazing. Just what I was looking for. Thank you so much, and you have hit the nail right on the head on this one
(funny, but I noticed
AFTER typing that, and after reading the replies to YOUR post, that I'm the second person to say that to you on the subject). Does anyone remember
when the last launch took place? Right before the Iraq invasion and occupation. Remember who was on that flight? The Israeli fighter pilot who led the
mission that destroyed Iraq's one nuclear reactor during Gulf War 1. And now we got a new problematic flight and this whole Iran thing going
There has to be some connection going on here. Star
war program? Can't be, can it? Can't believe I didn't notice it, but.. that is why I started this thread in the first place. Have they changed the
design somehow and THAT is causing the NEW problem perhaps? What I do not understand is why are they having these technical malfunctions after 100s of
launches... why all the problems all of a sudden... with... foam. WTF? There must be some connection between these flights.. and the events in the
war... but how do these 'glitches' fit in with propaganda or cover for the mission. It is a head scratcher for sure... and you are right... it
certainly feels like there is something else going on with these missions. You got a good eye for this stuff, for sure. Atta go! I totally forgot to
include the space shuttle program in my formula for this forecast.. thanks again. Now this is what ATS should be about.
Df1: A lot of people out there out there are afraid of those who believe strongly in these Ancient Texts (and the predictions for the future of all of
us within them). I looked over that page you linked in your post, and I couldn't tell if Hal actually believes in the Ancient Texts himself or if he
(like myself) is just scared to death that the A.T. believers are going to get us all killed. Of course that isn't important, what is important I
believe is that I'm not
the first person to say that those A.T. believers are going to get us all killed.. that it has been said before.. many
people believe it and now here is the perfect opportunity for it all to go down. We have now been given so many warnings about what a precarious
situation it is... so many have ignored them (Frosty for instance, who if you told him to do up his seatbelt so he doesn't go through the window of
his car would tell you to stop predicting doom and gloom) and I think we are about to reap 1000s of years of hate and ignorance and apathy... all
those things... which those Ancient Texts supposedly are against but seem to do nothing but produce more of it all. The question is (I believe) ...
are TPTB going to let these groups keep bashing away at each other for another wonderful 1000 years or... perhaps its just time to get it all over
with? In a way... we can only hope, right? In another way.. can't we all just get along already?
: You are a very enthusiastic poster sir, and I'm sorry I wasn't here to reply to you during the threads development, because I
would have been able to agree with you in more detail (lol) but the long story short.. and I'll spare everyone the love fest - thanks for all your
time spent here on this subject, I really do appreciate it. Nothing more to be said I don't think... because I... just... agree with you. Thanks
LazarusTheLong: Thank you sir, for pointing out that V. Jones denies that he was the model for the Harrison character
. I could have sworn I
read that he said (something like) "He didn't mind if his exploits were being used in a film as a character, but he wanted to ensure that no one
actually KNEW that the adventure character was based on him... basically because he didn't want it to have any affect on his actual real life work."
Hard to get things done on a real archeological dig if people keep expecting you to solve every problem with a bullwhip.
However.. want to see something really scarry? Read this... look at the reader comments at the bottom...
Seriously though, thanks for that. For the past 3 weeks here in the UK we've had the Indianna Jones trilogy showing and during discussions at work we
were trying to remember the guys name who they were based on.
Remember what I said in the first post about TPTB getting us all ready for the big announcement about the Ark? So HBO will show the movies over and
over and over again to drill it in to our heads what a big deal the whole thing is?
I'm surprised by that find just now... and in a way... not. And it doesn't really matter in the end now does it? In fact, I wouldn't be surprised
if when the announcement (on the Ark) is made that he TOTALLY denies being the model for the character in CNN interviews because it just makes it seem
like a big cartoon if he was the model for Indy... so in order to make the 'event' more creditable.. I wouldn't be surprised at all if even
Spielberg says "Oh no.. its all just co-incidence.. blah blah blah... these things happen."
Sure they do. I think its interesting how there is this HUGE effort going on now to clarify that he is NOT the model for the character. I don't
really believe it one way or another because the whole damn thing is just so unbelievable.
FLYIN HIGH: Cheers mate. And thank you for your VERY kind comments. I try hard when I've got a long winded explanation or thought in general to make
it as painless as possible on my audience... the fact that it was well read and well commented on means to me that I did my job well this time and
regardless if anyone agrees with me or not... I just wanted discussion on this subject, and I needed some info to fill in the blanks.. if there was
any info or blanks to be filled (much like Sourgrapes and others have) and I got exactly what I wanted, I could not be happier this evening (I'm also
working on getting my writing skills back together for school - so I really do appreciate your comments - really.. thanks). And sir, I do not drink
(much or often) but you are welcome any time to long pull from my water pipe (so much more relaxing then booze.. you should really try it sometime if
you haven't.. it just sits here beside my rig and for like an hour almost just fills the room and my lungs with whatever I've put in the bowl...
trust me sir, I'm usually very relaxed.. just worried about a storm I see brewing and wondering if I should put the pipe and the PC in the cellar is
all. I haven't taken any steps yet... so of course, I understand that its all conjecture ... its just that its the very loud kinda screaming
conjecture that really has got my attention at the moment is all. One thing though, what the heck is a boat drink?
Kitsunegari: Yes, little dude.. I could not agree with you more. We should all be able to live free of fear.. and our world is in a sad state. What
kills me the most, every single day I die just a little bit (well.. don't we all... heh) because we could be doing SO MUCH BETTER. We can DO BETTER
then we are doing.. but we are not.. and why not? WHY ON EARTH.. on THIS EARTH dammit, are there people still starving on it? We can drop a bomb and
kill people... millions of them, on any spot in the world.. down a chimney if we cared to.. but we can't get food to ENTIRE COUNTRIES that are
starving? I almost feel like.. "we have failed and deserve everything that we have coming".. its OUR failure.. all of ours. We could have used our
wealth to help raise up the poorest and most helpless of us all.. and make the world AT THE LEAST tolerable and FAIR. Its said .. "but life isn't
fair"? Frell it should be a hell of a lot more fair then it is to some people in the world! Have hope little bro.. we need young guys like you who
know this type of stuff NOW, so you can do something about it later when you are in a position to do so LATER. For now though.. I'll give you
advice.. go run outside, enjoy the rest of the summer.. fall in love with a cute girl and have a real passionate little affair with her.. make her
feel like a queen and she'll make you feel like a king.. and that is all that matters in life in the end (besides regularly trying to make the world
a better place... in any way that you can). And FAILING THAT (there isn't always someone compatible around) ... just go out and have a good time with
your buddies, because they are the only OTHER thing in the world that SHOULD really matter to you right now. Enjoy life... because there is good stuff
in it... lots, trust me... and if people my age can't fix all the bad stuff by the time your time comes around then you have my full permission to
kick our collective butts out of office and in to the street so you can do what we could not (or would not) do. But, and here is the last good point
and advice I can give you.. if you don't go out and enjoy all that there is in life RIGHT NOW, when it is time for you to fix whatever is left to
fix... you won't want to and you won't know how to either. What would be the point, right? Get me, bro? Take care of yourself.
magnito_student: Some good questions that you could have looked up yourself.. or even called a temple and asked a rabbi for us (which is actually what
I might get around to doing tomorrow - we should all do this actually.. what an interesting result that would be). I do not claim to understand why
these people think the way they do (any religious fanatics).. I do not understand why it is so important for them to drag us all in to a serious
conflict over Ancient Texts that have been misinterpreted and reinterpreted, lost, forgotten, found.... finally buried for 3 months in peat moss
before finally and conveniently coming to light just in time to raise the stakes in the game just a little higher and scare the crap out of all of
All I know is that the Ark is a really big ultra super happy meal for the entire state of Israel, every Jew and every Christian.. and so is the
Temple being rebuilt. And the Ark needs to be inside the Temple where it will be safe
(like as if anything in that area can be considered safe...
unless they COMPLETELY wipe out everyone in the M.E. that temple will never stay up for very long).
You are wondering if the Ark will become like a celebrity or something.. perhaps sponsorship deals?
Official soft drink of the Holiest of Holies.. the Ark of the Covenant.
I don't get it either man, but I was mildly entertained by your comments. Thank you.
peacmkr: I have this feeling that the Ark that they are about to uncover is a complete (but extremely high tech and well done) fake. What I think
would be really funny is if the REAL ark is in another place and people know its there.. and Jones pulls out His Ark, and then the protectors of the
Real Ark pull out theirs and then we'll have Dueling Arks screwing up everyone's plans and wacky hilarious events happen constantly one after
another with new and better artifacts being pulled out left right and center. Sounds like a new NBC sitcom actually.
GrOuNd_ZeRo: Thank you, just the type of stuff I was looking for... not sure I agree with your points, but I'm glad that you brought them up... glad
that they are in the thread anyways. Thats the way it should be.
maidenwolf: I could kiss you.. YOU 'get it' .. its not about the Arks alleged capabilities (though I wouldn't be surprised to find out that it can
do something - like make people with oil under their countries disappear) ... its about the POLITICS of the find itself. YES! You do, totally 'get
it' .. but you already knew that, didn't you?
Why is it that this seems to be so hard for all these other people to grasp? I figured I explained it..... long enough..... didn't I? Did I NOT go in
to enough detail and try to cover every single base so that I would be fully understood? I figured I did... damn high school / college system.. we can
do so much better by our youth ya know? We know how to make every single child a genius .. if we just put the time and effort in to it RIGHT from the
start ... can you imagine the world we would have? Instead we get.. you
know, the usual... people telling me that I'm making "predictions" based on the alignment of the plants or some such tripe. Can't even challenge
my logic.. too lazy. Why do they even BOTHER posting if they arn't going to read the inital post in the first place? N - E wayz...
I can NOT believe I didn't know that the date for the Gaza pullout was the 15th though.. NOW I AM WORRIED. I can not believe that the pullout date is
the 15th (like as if that was going to go down without a hitch in the first place).. and they are pulling out the Ark on the 14th. This is .. just
fantastic .. unbelievable. I should have checked the pullout date.. I ment to.. but I figured if the pull out date was announced publicly that I'd
already know it (just caught notice of it through my basic research.. didn't even think to check to see what THAT timetable was) .. how terribly
sloppy of me. Thank you so much, this is EXACTLY the stuff I was looking for.. could not ask for anything more from a fellow ATSer. Wish I could vote
you all who filled me in on the little details for all being above top secret.. but know in my book that you all are anyways. Thank the net gods for
ATS. Haven't had this much fun online since the GEnie network.
Okay, well... I'm even more certain now that we will see a new huge uprising in Israel on the 15th.. now more then ever. This is going to be
ugly... no doubt about it. Civil war at the least.. bloodshed without a doubt.
Maybe I'm gushing a little much here.. but ANYTHING is so much better then..
"Gee, VMX.. lets see.. you are forecasting murder in the middle east? In Israel? Don't you think you're going a bit far here? Maybe you should
chill out a little bit dude, things aren't that bad.. relax man.. the place is only been at war since as far back as recorded history.. I don't
think you have any reason to believe that there should be a problem there."
...which just kills me.
If WW3 really happens then we can safely await a nicely, well rehearsed, powerplay with an almighty final. And yes, I'm a cynical bastard at
I believe you are correct sir... this is what I think we are watching right now.. so do you think we have one year left till they start throwing the
big weapons around? Or do you see this starting soon?
One thing I didn't even bring up in the first post are the nuke plants in Iran... there is only ONE YEAR LEFT till they are turned on and they can
not be bombed after being turned on
(major world wide disaster.. and the oil in the ground could be seriously contaminated.. so they have to be
hit and hit soon) ... so really... personally... I think in the next couple of weeks we are going to see the beginnings of the 'end' of the success
of the 90s that we are still enjoying (even if you didn't know you were still enjoying it)
and the beginning of the final show down. In fact.. its just been announced that Iran is past the point of 'no return' on its uranium enrichment.
Funny thing is the UN decided it was okay for them to go ahead and return to work on the nuke plants.. and the only people that have a problem with
this it seems is the USA and Israel. So if you read any nonAmerican press, you'll find that the UN is fully involved and co-operating on the plan
with the go ahead.. and if you read CNN, it just sounds like Iran is just asking to be
bombed like Iraq was for not complying with "the international community" (the US and its allies) .. anyways.. what I'm trying to say is... we have
one year left tops... if it doesn't start sooner. Take a look for yourself..
strangedaysarehere: Thank you! And HEY! That is SO COOL that you have a conspiracy blog of your own! Personally I want an ATS blog though I haven't
looked in to it yet. But that is REALLY cool... I really think so.. and its always nice to know that you are not alone over something you are
speculating about, right? So thanks! I bookmarked you in with my "DAILY NEWS" bookmarks in Opera .. so I'll be checking in regularly to see how
someone with experience does it (if ya don't mind).
Excellent stuff, we'll talk sometime for sure. HEY! Please feel free to quote me or link me in there eh?
: Finally.. TIA, dude, you are like one of the few who actually 'get it' arn't you (not saying that others in here do not 'get
it' - others do.. but you totally do, don't you)? You are like a breath of fresh air sometimes man. Its funny but the more I agree with some of the
posters in a thread the less I have to say about their posts. But you are totally right man.. on many counts.. but let us get in to a little detail at
least since you really took interest in this thread (as you do, many of the threads here in ATS) ...
The most intreaguing aspect of the originial post is the speculation on the fate of the temple mount. One of my biggest questions has always been...
how will the last temple be built? It's where the Dome of the Rock is.. How in the world will that happen?
Well that is totally what I'm saying here man. I think, since people have announced it in the past.. like I linked in my post... That the Dome is
going to be turned in to heat and light and carbon very soon after the Ark is pulled from the ground and the Muslim world will retaliate for it as
they have announced that they will. As has been said by all parties.. they are all ready to go to war over this. However if the US is hit with a nuke
shortly (as it looks with the propaganda... but as propaganda usually goes, what will
probably happen instead is some sort of other type of attack will be used - chem or bio - so as not to make us 'suspicious' of the propaganda...
even though we will be anyways) then the Muslim world will be too occupied retaliating for the US retaliation to retaliate for the Dome destruction..
THIS is why I think everything is coming to a head RIGHT NOW. We're talking WEEKS.
When IT happens, you'll know.
Whatever you're doing will be promptly interrupted.
Has to be one of the best replies I have ever seen on the internet, PERIOD.
And you know.. I don't understand why this is such a stretch for some of you while others 'get it' because there are reports on the MAINSTREAM
internet right now like...
"6 in 10 US citizens believe world war 3 is about to start."
WHEN IN THE FRELL HAVE YOU EVER SEEN REPORTS LIKE THAT BEFORE!? THINK FOR FRELLS SAKES!
I have never seen so much crap about the end of civilization before posted on the internet ECK, and I've been here since .. a long time. And I have
never seen this much crap about the possiblility of oblivion being a reality ever before.. its like.. "we all know .. deep down .. that this is
coming" because there is just TOO MUCH .. either propaganda or .. just the truth coming through in leaks.. BECAUSE its such a 'big deal' that of
course we would start to 'feel it' (see the Princeton EGGS.. bottom of this post).
You know there have been a number of events just since I posted this thread that are adding up to trouble and I might use a separate post with in this
thread to go over them (though not so formally.. this is tough to do.. tougher then it is for you to read it all.. I'm doing my ALMOST best here).
BUT .. I'm hoping we can all keep and eye on things until at LEAST the Gaza pull out begins because.. though it wouldn't mean much.. it would be
nice to know that at least we SAW the 'crap' as it flew through the air towards
the fan before the moment of impact and splatter.. though we'd all have bigger issues to take care of at that point then saying "told you so".
Let me ask you a question ECK... if a limited exchange broke out in a few weeks... just limited (nukes dropped on Iran and this scenario I've brought
up comes through at least in a similar fashion)... what is your plan? Do you have one?
Special mention: Realist05 - you crack me up. Totally, thank you.
END OF FAR TOO LONG REPLY
(you know how long it took me to do this.. you don't want to know)
I have to end this here for all of our sakes though I intend to keep this thread going till the pull out.. till the 15th. I want to keep an eye on
that whole thing. And I'd like to do it with as many of you as possible.. we don't have to be obsessive about it.. just keep your eyes open for us
all.. and share any discovery you make here please.
There are some VERY interesting things happening right now.. and though.. ALTHOUGH.. I never said I was 'predicting' anything, and actually.. I am
going to post one more post after this to address something that is bothering me before I get to my MSG3.. BUT.. before I do that... I just want you
to take a look at something else I found today..
If THAT THING works right.. that is such a bad sign.. lol... I don't put much faith in to the thing because its just so frelling 'out there' (it
should have its own topic in here somewhere, has this thing been discussed at all... I'll check.. never mind) ... but... its like... could not be
doing this at a worse time. So even though, I do not believe in psychic predictions...
I've found that even the psychics are in agreement that SOMETHING is coming.. like as if thats rare or something.. BUT HELL MAN.. ITS A COMPUTER
Just had to lighten things a little.
Though.. if that thing works.. hmmmm...
Someone get me outta here already! Take care, all of you.. don't stress too much please.. I didn't want to scare anyone.. just alert you. Lets all
keep our hopes and spirits up no matter what happens okay? Lets all make sure that if THIS world is destroyed.. that we work to replace it with one
that this BS can NEVER again happen in! One where even the most poor and most helpless can live "as well" as I do (which.. I'll admit.. it ain't
pretty.. I've done better for myself in the past.. but spinal cord injuries are a motherf*$% to deal with) .. because we could have had a near
paradise.. and I don't think its silly to aim for anything less.. I also think.. that because a lot of people believe so strongly that there is a
life better then the one after this one (and.. damn, I hope there is one myself.. I just have a hard time believing it sometimes) we do not work hard
enough to make THIS LIFE, as good as it can be.. "Life isn't fair" .. ya but.. it doesn't have to be unfair... and we shouldn't have to live in
fear of these monsters that roam our planet.
PS: Sorry for that.. now I just get to reply regularly.. I really should have been here.. but real life called.. again, I appoligise.. and I'm sorry
to anyone I missed this post.. I'll get around to you.. I'm sure.. just need to sleep for a couple days now.
PPS: Yeah, btw.. I really gave it to the system today.. HAD TONS of help.. but wow.. really hit them in the pocket book. It was good. I feel good.