Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Peace2005, Thank you for your great post and your thoughts. I'd like to point out that it is unrealistic to expect every one of your fellow members
to have a positive reaction to your thoughts, but as you can see, many do,
There's a verse in the Christian bible that means that if you lay something precious at a pig's feet, he will not appreciate it, but stomp on it in
Matthew 7:6 (King James Version)
Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend
So, sometimes, when you put something precious out there, know that many will appreciate it, but there will be those who trample on it. The message is
no less precious.
Wow, It seems that I have more positive friends than nagative and fanatic fellows, I had no intention to go lost and lose my track from my mission for
which I joined this forum i.e. to help narrow the gap, but Mr. Bush poped up from no where and started "beating about the bush" so I had to response
in a bid to rescue him from getting lebbled as Fanatic, Extremist or same like other Terrorists as our other fellow member termed him in this thread.
I am copying below thoughts of some honest intellectuals, hope that the following observations would contribute to initiating an objective evaluation
"It (Islam) replaced monkishness by manliness. It gives hope to the slave, brotherhood to mankind, and recognition of the fundamental facts of human
"Sense of justice is one of the most wonderful ideals of Islam, because as I read in the Qur'an I find those dynamic principles of life, not mystic
but practical ethics for the daily conduct of life suited to the whole world." Lectures on "The Ideals of Islam;" see SPEECHES AND WRITINGS
OFSAROJINI NAIDU, Madras, 1918, p. 167.
"History makes it clear however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of the sword upon
conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myths that historians have ever repeated." De Lacy O'Leary, ISLAM AT THE CROSSROADS,
London, 1923, p. 8.
"But Islam has a still further service to render to the cause of humanity. It stands after all nearer to the real East than Europe does, and it
possesses a magnificent tradition of inter-racial understanding and cooperation. No other society has such a record of success uniting in an equality
of status, of opportunity, and of endeavours so many and so various races of mankind . . . Islam has still the power to reconcile apparently
irreconcilable elements of race and tradition. If ever the opposition of the great societies of East and West is to be replaced by cooperation, the
mediation of Islam is an indispensable condition. In its hands lies very largely the solution of the problem with which Europe is faced in its
relation with East. If they unite, the hope of a peaceful issue is immeasurably enhanced. But if Europe, by rejecting the cooperation of Islam,
throws it into the arms of its rivals, the issue can only be disastrous for both." H.A.R. Gibb, WHITHER ISLAM, London, 1932, p. 379.
"I have always held the religion of Muhammad in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality. It is the only religion which appears to me to
possess that assimilating capacity to the changing phase of existence which can make itself appeal to every age. I have studied him - the wonderful
man and in my opinion for from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Saviour of Humanity. I believe that if a man like him were to assume the
dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness: I have
prophesied about the faith of Muhammad that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of
today." G.B. Shaw, THE GENUINE ISLAM, Vol. 1, No. 81936.
"The extinction of race consciousness as between Muslims is one of the outstanding achievements of Islam, and in the contemporary world there is, as
it happens, a crying need for the propagation of this Islamic virtue." A.J. Toynbee, CIVILIZATION ON TRIAL, New York, 1948, p. 205.
"The rise of Islam is perhaps the most amazing event in human history. Springing from a land and a people like previously negligible, Islam spread
within a century over half the earth, shattering great empires, overthrowing long established religions, remoulding the souls of races, and building
up a whole new world - world of Islam.
"The closer we examine this development the more extraordinary does it appear. The other great religions won their way slowly, by painful struggle
and finally triumphed with the aid of powerful monarchs converted to the new faith. Christianity had its Constantine, Buddhism its Asoka, and
Zoroastrianism its Cyrus, each lending to his chosen cult the mighty force of secular authority. Not so Islam. Arising in a desert land sparsely
inhabited by a nomad race previously undistinguished in human annals, Islam sallied forth on its great adventure with the slenderest human backing and
against the heaviest material odds. Yet Islam triumphed with seemingly miraculous ease, and a couple of generations saw the Fiery Crescent borne
victorious from the Pyrenees to the Himalayas and from the desert of Central Asia to the deserts of Central Africa." A.M.L. Stoddard, quoted in
ISLAM - THE RELIGION OF ALL PROPHETS, Begum Bawani Waqf, Karachi, Pakistan, p. 56.
"Islam is a religion that is essentially rationalistic in the widest sense of this term considered etymologically and historically. The definition
of rationalism as a system that bases religious beliefs on principles furnished by the reason applies to it exactly . . . It cannot be denied that
many doctrines and systems of theology and also many superstitions, from the worship of saints to the use of rosaries and amulets, have become grafted
on the main trunk of Muslim creed. But in spite of the rich developments, in every sense of the term, of the teachings of the Prophet, the Quran has
invariable kept its place as the fundamental starting point, and the dogma of unity of God has always been proclaimed therein with a grandeur, a
majesty, an invariable purity and with a note of sure conviction, which it is hard to find surpassed outside the pale of Islam. This fidelity to the
fundamental dogma of the religion, the elemental simplicity of the formula in which it is enunciated, the proof that it gains from the fervid
conviction of the missionaries who propagate it, are so many causes to explain the success of Muhammadan missionary efforts. A creed so precise, so
stripped of all theological complexities and consequently so accessible to the ordinary understanding might be expected to possess and does indeed
possess a marvelous power of winning its way into the consciences of men." --Edward Montet, "La Propagande Chretienne et ses Adversaries
Musulmans," Paris, 1890; Quoted by T.W. Arnold in THE PREACHING OF ISLAM, London, 1913, pp. 413-414.
"I am not a Muslim in the usual sense, though I hope I am a "Muslim" as "one surrendered to God," but I believe that embedded in the Quran and
other expressions of the Islamic vision are vast stores of divine truth from which I and other occidentals have still much to learn, and 'Islam is
certainly a strong contender for the supplying of the basic framework of the one religion of the future.'" W. Montgomery Watt, ISLAM ANDCHRISTIANITY
TODAY, London, 1983, p. ix