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He said: "Tony Blair has told lies on going to Iraq and in a court of law if a witness has proved to be a liar he ceases to be a reliable witness. So we cannot give our blind trust to the Government.
"To have that trust it is important that the process of law should be independent, open and transparent. I am also sad that unfortunately the impression has been given that Muslims are to be targeted in this war against terror. There seems to be a directive to target Muslims. Why do we not have an open mind about this?
"Muslim bashing seems to be more earnest than the need for national unity and harmony. Terrorists can be anybody - we will have to see [whether the bombers are Muslims]. The process is not open; the process is not transparent; the process is not independent. I do not have faith in the system as it stands."
Mr Naseem is one of the most respected Muslims in the city and is considered a moderate. He has regular meetings with the chief constable to discuss religious harmony.
Basically, Muslims are being villified without fair investigation because of a group which Muslims don't even acknowledge an existance of.
Originally posted by djohnsto77
If there was a rogue element of Christianity, say the Methodists, going off and killing in the name of Jesus, you can bet you'd see every effort every other sect like Presbyterians, Catholics, Anglicans, Calvinists, etc. doing everything possible to discredit them in the strongest possible terms.
Originally posted by XphilesPhan
Ok. if he is a respected muslim and telling the truth, he and all other muslims of hi caliber, for lack of a better word, need to come forward and say there is no such organization and present the facts or evidence, for Lord's sake dont let a war continue and remain silent about the government lying about al-qaeda. One of the biggest problems is that civilians in the west have no idea about muslim culture, we do not know what is true and false. The Government can very well spread lies about you, your people, and culture to try to destroy you and your communities.
Please, if you have evidence to the contrary get the word out!
Originally posted by djohnsto77
All of your purported examples were dealt with swiftly and harshly by the government of this country and have never been embraced by any significant sect of our society.
BTW -- The 9/11 B.S. has been debunked so many times, I'm not even going to bother with it.
Originally posted by djohnsto77
The Muslim faith needs to begin to put a real effort in policing their own ranks really soon if they don't want "muslim bashing" to skyrocket. If there was a rogue element of Christianity, say the Methodists, going off and killing in the name of Jesus, you can bet you'd see every other sect like Presbyterians, Catholics, Anglicans, Calvinists, etc. doing everything possible to discredit them in the strongest possible terms. While I admit there have been the occasional fatwah and march, the outrage doesn't seem to be global and genuine nor effective.
Originally posted by aelphaeis_mangarae
Why aren't any of these guys linked to Al-Qaeda? Because Al-Qaeda doesn't exist.
A name is a label for a thing, person, place, product (as in a brand name), and even an idea or concept, normally used to distinguish one from another. Names can identify a class or category of things, or a single thing, either uniquely, or within a given context. A name for a specific individual or plurality is sometimes called a proper name, and is a proper noun. Other nouns are sometimes, more loosely, called names; an older term for them, now obsolete, is general name.
Al-Qaeda (Arabic: القاعدة - al-Qā‘idah, "the foundation" or "the base") is the name given to an international alliance of militant Islamist organizations. Originally built from the cadre of Saudi-funded Arab fighters who flocked to join the mujahideen resistance movement against the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan, it seeks to establish, via military and terrorist tactics, a radical form of Islamist ideology to supplant both current regimes in the Middle East and eventually Western society as a whole. The group places itself in confrontation with the United States, because the U.S. and other liberal democracies stand between Al-Qaeda and the achievement of its extremist objectives. Another reason for their conflict with the United States is their perception that certain aspects of Western culture and values are incompatible with Islam. Al-Qaeda has masterminded and inspired terrorist attacks against both civilian and military targets around the world.
Although "al-Qaeda" is the name of the organization used in popular culture, the organization rarely uses the name to formally refer to itself. The origin of the name "al-qaeda" is disputed; some allege it was coined by the United States government based on the name of a computer file of bin Laden's that listed the names of contacts he had made at the MAK in the Bait al-Ansar guesthouse during the late 1980s. Bin Laden himself says of the origin, saying "We used to call the training camp al Qaeda [meaning "the base" in English]. And the name stayed." 
Al-Qaeda evolved from the Maktab al-Khadamat (MAK) — a mujahideen resistance organization fighting against the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in the 1980s. Osama bin Laden was a founding member of the MAK, along with Palestinian militant Abdullah Yusuf Azzam. The role of the MAK was to channel funds from a variety of sources (including donations from across the Middle East) into training mujahideen from around the world in guerrilla combat, and to transport the combatants to Afghanistan. Bin Laden and the MAK have allegedly been aided by the governments of Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, and indirectly (and perhaps unknowingly) by the United States, which channeled all of its support via the Pakistani intelligence service, the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) Directorate. In fact, the Arab contingent in Afghanistan during the latter half of the 1980s was quite small and not generally involved in the fighting, rather limiting its activities to logistics, housing, recruitment and financing of the mujahideen. Bin Laden, the MAK, and most of the Arab volunteers were largely unknown to the CIA and the American government during the war to oust the Soviet from Afghanistan; only later would the Arab element come to U.S. attention.en.wikipedia.org...
From same source as above
Is al-Qaeda real?
Al-Qaeda has no clear structure, and this permits debate as to how many members make up the organisation, whether it is millions scattered across the globe, or whether it is even zero. According to the controversial BBC documentary The Power of Nightmares, al-Qaeda is so weakly linked together that it is hard to say it exists apart from Osama bin Laden and a small clique of close associates. The lack of any significant numbers of convicted al-Qaeda members despite a large number of arrests on terrorism charges is cited by the documentary as a reason to doubt whether a widespread entity that meets the description of al-Qaeda exists at all. Still, the extent and nature of Al Qaeda remains a topic of dispute.
A useful distinction can be made between al-Qaeda and Islamist terrorists. Islamists generally operate nationally within one country, whereas al-Qaeda is mostly involved in international terrorism, but also has links to national terrorism. The vast majority of the people arrested appear to be Islamists, not al Qaeda. Even the al Qaeda name itself does not seem to have been used by bin Laden himself to apply to his organisation until after the September 11 attacks. Previous attacks attributed to bin Laden and al-Qaeda were, at the time, claimed by organisations under a variety of names. Bin Laden himself has since attributed the al Qaeda name to the MAK base in Pakistan, dating from the Afghan war days. Daniel Benjamin in "The Age of Sacred Terror" cites an incident in the early 1990s where a document titled "The Foundation", Arabic "Al Qa'eda", was found on an associate of Ramzi Youssef. 
The following is the full text of a fatwa issued by the British Muslim Forum, with the approval of more than 500 UK Muslim clerics, scholars and imams, on Monday 18 July:
We wish to express our sincere condolences to the families of all the victims of the London attacks. We pray for the swift recovery of all those who are recovering from injuries.
There are many questions emerging from the London bombings. One of the most important questions is what does Islam say about it?
To answer this question Muslim scholars, clerics and Imams from all over the UK have been consulted to issue this formal legal opinion (fatwa) so that Muslims and non-Muslims can be clear about Islam's stance on such acts.
On behalf of over 500 clerics, scholars and Imams the British Muslim Forum issues the following religious decree:
Islam strictly, strongly and severely condemns the use of violence and the destruction of innocent lives.
There is neither place nor justification in Islam for extremism, fanaticism or terrorism. Suicide bombings, which killed and injured innocent people in London, are haram - vehemently prohibited in Islam, and those who committed these barbaric acts in London are criminals not martyrs.
Such acts, as perpetrated in London, are crimes against all of humanity and contrary to the teachings of Islam.
The Holy Koran declares:
"Whoever kills a human being, then it is as though he has killed all mankind; and whoever saves a human life, it is as though he had saved all mankind." (Koran, Surah al-Maidah (5), verse 32).
Islam teaches us to be caring towards all of Allah's (God's) creation, not just mankind. The Prophet of Islam who was described as "a mercy to the worlds" said: "All creation is the family of Allah and that person is most beloved to Allah who is kind and caring towards His family."
Islam's position is clear and unequivocal: murder of one soul is the murder of the whole of humanity; he who shows no respect for human life is an enemy of humanity.
We pray for the defeat of extremism and terrorism in the world.
We pray for peace, security and harmony to triumph in multicultural Great Britain.
Muslim leaders in the UK have reacted with shock to the news that the London bombers may have been British-born young people from their community.
The Muslim Council of Britain's secretary general, Iqbal Sacranie, said it had received the news with "anguish, shock and horror".
"Nothing in Islam can ever justify the evil actions of the bombers," he said.
Sir Iqbal said the "criminals" who bombed London needed to be distanced from the Islamic faith.
Massoud Shadjareh, chairman of the Islamic Human Rights Commission, said: "The criminality of anyone should not be associated with their nationality, ethnicity or religion.
"That sort of association is totally unjust and xenophobic and can create a great injustice by promoting prejudice that could fuel further violence against innocent people. A criminal is a criminal, is a criminal, full stop."
The Muslim Council of Britain said it had been planning an inter-faith national demonstration in protest at the bombs on London's transport network last Thursday that killed at least 52 people.
I'd even love to see a COMPLETE government investigation that looks at an angle which doesn't start with a conclusion.