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could an f-15 eagle out perform a mig-31 foxhound

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posted on Jul, 28 2005 @ 10:40 PM
i think a f-15 eagle would lose in a fight with such a great plane. the f-15 is a great plane but i think the foxhound would decimate it in a dogfight.

now don't get me wrong im for america but i think the russians are catching up in fighter technology and they might have planes equal or superior to the raptor.

General Characteristics
Primary function: Tactical fighter
Contractor: McDonnell Douglas Corp.
Power plant: Two Pratt & Whitney F100-PW-100, 220 or 229 turbofan engines with afterburners
Thrust: (C/D models) 23,450 pounds each engine
Wing span: 42.8 feet (13 meters)
Length: 63.8 feet (19.44 meters)
Height: 18.5 feet (5.6 meters)
Speed: 1,875 mph (Mach 2.5 plus)
Maximum takeoff weight: (C/D models) 68,000 pounds (30,844 kilograms)
Ceiling: 65,000 feet (19,812 meters)
Range: 3,450 miles (3,000 nautical miles) ferry range with conformal fuel tanks and three external fuel tanks
Crew: F-15A/C: one. F-15B/D/E: two
Armament: One internally mounted M-61A1 20mm 20-mm, six-barrel cannon with 940 rounds of ammunition; four AIM-9L/M Sidewinder and four AIM-7F/M Sparrow air-to-air missiles, or eight AIM-120 AMRAAMs, carried externally.
Unit Cost: A/B models - $27.9 million (fiscal 98 constant dollars);C/D models - $29.9 million (fiscal 98 constant dollars)
Date deployed: July 1972
Inventory: Active force, 396; Reserve, 0; ANG,126.

Countries of Origin CIS (formerly USSR)
Similar Aircraft MiG-25 Foxbat
F-14 Tomcat
F-15 Eagle

Crew Two
Role interceptor
air superiority

Length 70 ft, 5 in (21.5 m)
Span 45 ft, 9 in (14 m)
Height: 6.60 m
Wing span: 14.02 m
Wing area: 61.41 sq m
Maximum speed: Mach 2.83
Weight: (empty) 22,000 kg
Weight: (normal) 36,720 kg
Powerplant: Two Tumanski R-15BD-300
afterburning turbojets rated at
49.78kN each
Maximum Range: 1,250 km
Service ceiling: 20,700 m
Rate of climb: 8 min 54 sec to 20,000 m
Ceiling 24400 meters
Cruise range 1620 nm
In-Flight Refueling No
Internal Fuel 14200kg
Drop Tanks 2000L drop tank with 1600kg of fuel for 91 nm range
Sensors LD/SD TWS radar, possible IRST, RWR
Armament cannon
R-33 AA-9 Amos
AA-11 Archer

two R-40 missiles
Four R-60 missiles


$133 million [2005$]

Wing Root NACA 64A?05.92
Wing Tip

NACA 64A?04.29

Length 62.08 ft (18.92 m)
Wingspan 44.50 ft (13.56 m)
Height 16.42 ft (5.00 m)
Wing Area 838 ft2 (78.0 m2)
Canard Area

not applicable

Empty 34,000 lb (15,420 kg)
Typical Load 60,000 lb (27,215 kg)
Max Takeoff 62,000 lb (28,125 kg)
Fuel Capacity internal: 25,000 lb (11,340 kg)
external: 16,035 lb (7,290 kg) in four 600 gal (2,270 L) tanks
Max Payload

3,915 lb (1,775 kg) [internal]
approximately 19,000 lb (8,635 kg) [external]

Powerplant two Pratt & Whitney F119-100 afterburning turbofans
Thrust 70,000 lb (310 kN)

Max Level Speed at altitude: 1,355 mph (2,180 km/h) at 30,000 ft (9,150 m), Mach 2 [afterburner]
1,070 mph (1,725 km/h) at 30,000 ft (9,150 m), Mach 1.58 [supercruise]
at sea level: 920 mph (1,480 km/h), Mach 1.2
Initial Climb Rate unknown
Service Ceiling 50,000 ft (15,240 m)
Range typical: 2,000 nm (3,700 km)
ferry: unknown
Endurance unknown
g-Limits +9.0 / -3.0

Gun one 20-mm M61A2 Vulcan cannon (480 rds)
Stations four internal weapons bays and four external hardpoints
Air-to-Air Missile AIM-9M Sidewinder, AIM-120A/C AMRAAM
AIM-9X Sidewinder planned
Air-to-Surface Missile none at present
possibly AGM-158 JASSM in the future
Bomb GBU-32 JDAM
GBU-39 Small Diameter Bomb planned
Other unknown

[edit on 29-7-2005 by Karl Toussaint]

posted on Jul, 28 2005 @ 10:54 PM
While they are both described as "interceptors", the Mig-31 and the F-15 are very different aircraft. The F-15 can perform more missions and is more adaptable than the Mig-31. That is why the Su-27 and its variants have gotten orders while the Mig-31 has had very few.

posted on Jul, 28 2005 @ 11:13 PM
YEah.. thats true.. but a glaring similarity is that both were slated for the "anti-satellite" capability..

posted on Jul, 29 2005 @ 12:24 AM
who has gotten the most missions is not the point. the point is who would win in a true dogfight. the f-15 would easily get his [Mod Edit]kiked. since this plane exist, then for all those years the f-15 was not the worlds best air superiority fighter. it was the mig -31. who knows the mig-31 could even kik the raptors [mod Edit]. the raptor is stealthy but not as fast. stealth wont always garauntee the win.

i hope we go to war with russia soon, plz God let it happen.

[Mod Edit: Removed Profanity]

[edit on 7/29/05 by FredT]

posted on Jul, 29 2005 @ 12:29 AM
1) Please refrain from using profanity.
2) How old are you with this "Please go to war talk"

The Mig-31 is an interceptor period and its manuverability esp. at slow speeds is pretty poor. Its not intended to be a dog fighter but rather to have a sustained dash speed at high Mach numbers and down incoming bombers etc. Think F-106 etc. Look at the cockpit its straight ahead.

The F-15 is an agile dogfigter / air superiority fighter. Full buble canopy and highly manuverable. Rember too that the Mig-31 and F-15's top speed are in the clean configuration.

So that being said in a knife fight the Mig-31 would lose time and time again. BVR may be a better debate.

Now compare say the F-15 to the Su-30MMK etc. and that is a much better dogfight scenario.

I wont even comment on the Raptor Versus the Mig-31

[edit on 7/29/05 by FredT]

posted on Jul, 29 2005 @ 11:12 PM
you could have these two planes battle it out all you want, the tech isnt what really matters its which one has a better pilot.

posted on Aug, 3 2005 @ 10:01 AM
Check your source! The F-15 is an Air Superiority Fighter! It was design to go up against enemy fighters. The Mig-31, on the other hand, is an interceptor. It was built to counter the B-1B bomber. The Mig-31 was never really intended to dog fight!


posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 07:27 AM
The MiG-31 has better speed and slightly better ceiling, but that's all. The F-15 has better turn rate, climb rate, visibility, lower wing loading, higher thrust to weight ratio, and can make maneuvers with more g.

1) maximum speed

MiG-31 "Foxhound" 3000 km/h
F-15C Eagle 2698 km/h
F-15E Strike Eagle 2698 km/h

2) climb rate

F-15C Eagle 17500 m/min
F-15E Strike Eagle 16000 m/min
MiG-31 "Foxhound" 12480 m/min

3) ceiling

MiG-31 "Foxhound" 20600 m
F-15C Eagle 20000 m
F-15E Strike Eagle 18200 m

4) engine thrust

MiG-31 "Foxhound" 304 kN
F-15C Eagle 258 kN
F-15E Strike Eagle 258 kN

5A) weapons payload

F-15E Strike Eagle 11000 kg
F-15C Eagle 7300 kg
MiG-31 "Foxhound" 4000 kg

5B) cannon rounds

F-15C Eagle 940 (20 mm)
F-15E Strike Eagle 940 (20 mm)
MiG-31 "Foxhound" 260 (23 mm)

6) maximum range

F-15C Eagle 5745 km
F-15E Strike Eagle 3900 km
MiG-31 "Foxhound" 3300 km

7) thrust to weight ratio

F-15C Eagle 1.12
MiG-31 "Foxhound" 0.85

8) wing loading

F-15C Eagle 358 kg/m^2
MiG-31 "Foxhound" 665 kg/m^2

9) maximum g

F-15C Eagle +9 g
MiG-31 "Foxhound" +5 g

10) price

F-15K Strike Eagle 100 mil USD
MiG-31 "Foxhound" 60 mil USD
F-15E Strike Eagle 31.1 mil USD
F-15C Eagle 29.9 mil USD

8) production

F-15 Eagle 1198
MiG-31 "Foxhound" 500
F-15 Strike Eagle 334


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