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could an f-15 eagle out perform a mig-31 foxhound

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posted on Jul, 28 2005 @ 10:40 PM
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i think a f-15 eagle would lose in a fight with such a great plane. the f-15 is a great plane but i think the foxhound would decimate it in a dogfight.

now don't get me wrong im for america but i think the russians are catching up in fighter technology and they might have planes equal or superior to the raptor.




General Characteristics
Primary function: Tactical fighter
Contractor: McDonnell Douglas Corp.
Power plant: Two Pratt & Whitney F100-PW-100, 220 or 229 turbofan engines with afterburners
Thrust: (C/D models) 23,450 pounds each engine
Wing span: 42.8 feet (13 meters)
Length: 63.8 feet (19.44 meters)
Height: 18.5 feet (5.6 meters)
Speed: 1,875 mph (Mach 2.5 plus)
Maximum takeoff weight: (C/D models) 68,000 pounds (30,844 kilograms)
Ceiling: 65,000 feet (19,812 meters)
Range: 3,450 miles (3,000 nautical miles) ferry range with conformal fuel tanks and three external fuel tanks
Crew: F-15A/C: one. F-15B/D/E: two
Armament: One internally mounted M-61A1 20mm 20-mm, six-barrel cannon with 940 rounds of ammunition; four AIM-9L/M Sidewinder and four AIM-7F/M Sparrow air-to-air missiles, or eight AIM-120 AMRAAMs, carried externally.
Unit Cost: A/B models - $27.9 million (fiscal 98 constant dollars);C/D models - $29.9 million (fiscal 98 constant dollars)
Date deployed: July 1972
Inventory: Active force, 396; Reserve, 0; ANG,126.






Countries of Origin CIS (formerly USSR)
Similar Aircraft MiG-25 Foxbat
F-14 Tomcat
F-15 Eagle

Crew Two
Role interceptor
air superiority

Length 70 ft, 5 in (21.5 m)
Span 45 ft, 9 in (14 m)
Height: 6.60 m
Wing span: 14.02 m
Wing area: 61.41 sq m
Maximum speed: Mach 2.83
Weight: (empty) 22,000 kg
Weight: (normal) 36,720 kg
Powerplant: Two Tumanski R-15BD-300
afterburning turbojets rated at
49.78kN each
Maximum Range: 1,250 km
Service ceiling: 20,700 m
Rate of climb: 8 min 54 sec to 20,000 m
Ceiling 24400 meters
Cruise range 1620 nm
In-Flight Refueling No
Internal Fuel 14200kg
Drop Tanks 2000L drop tank with 1600kg of fuel for 91 nm range
Sensors LD/SD TWS radar, possible IRST, RWR
Armament cannon
R-33 AA-9 Amos
AA-11 Archer
Typically

two R-40 missiles
Four R-60 missiles




ESTIMATED COST:

$133 million [2005$]


AIRFOIL SECTIONS:
Wing Root NACA 64A?05.92
Wing Tip

NACA 64A?04.29


DIMENSIONS:
Length 62.08 ft (18.92 m)
Wingspan 44.50 ft (13.56 m)
Height 16.42 ft (5.00 m)
Wing Area 838 ft2 (78.0 m2)
Canard Area

not applicable


WEIGHTS:
Empty 34,000 lb (15,420 kg)
Typical Load 60,000 lb (27,215 kg)
Max Takeoff 62,000 lb (28,125 kg)
Fuel Capacity internal: 25,000 lb (11,340 kg)
external: 16,035 lb (7,290 kg) in four 600 gal (2,270 L) tanks
Max Payload

3,915 lb (1,775 kg) [internal]
approximately 19,000 lb (8,635 kg) [external]


PROPULSION:
Powerplant two Pratt & Whitney F119-100 afterburning turbofans
Thrust 70,000 lb (310 kN)


PERFORMANCE:
Max Level Speed at altitude: 1,355 mph (2,180 km/h) at 30,000 ft (9,150 m), Mach 2 [afterburner]
1,070 mph (1,725 km/h) at 30,000 ft (9,150 m), Mach 1.58 [supercruise]
at sea level: 920 mph (1,480 km/h), Mach 1.2
Initial Climb Rate unknown
Service Ceiling 50,000 ft (15,240 m)
Range typical: 2,000 nm (3,700 km)
ferry: unknown
Endurance unknown
g-Limits +9.0 / -3.0


ARMAMENT:
Gun one 20-mm M61A2 Vulcan cannon (480 rds)
Stations four internal weapons bays and four external hardpoints
Air-to-Air Missile AIM-9M Sidewinder, AIM-120A/C AMRAAM
AIM-9X Sidewinder planned
Air-to-Surface Missile none at present
possibly AGM-158 JASSM in the future
Bomb GBU-32 JDAM
GBU-39 Small Diameter Bomb planned
Other unknown



[edit on 29-7-2005 by Karl Toussaint]




posted on Jul, 28 2005 @ 10:54 PM
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While they are both described as "interceptors", the Mig-31 and the F-15 are very different aircraft. The F-15 can perform more missions and is more adaptable than the Mig-31. That is why the Su-27 and its variants have gotten orders while the Mig-31 has had very few.



posted on Jul, 28 2005 @ 11:13 PM
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YEah.. thats true.. but a glaring similarity is that both were slated for the "anti-satellite" capability..



posted on Jul, 29 2005 @ 12:24 AM
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who has gotten the most missions is not the point. the point is who would win in a true dogfight. the f-15 would easily get his [Mod Edit]kiked. since this plane exist, then for all those years the f-15 was not the worlds best air superiority fighter. it was the mig -31. who knows the mig-31 could even kik the raptors [mod Edit]. the raptor is stealthy but not as fast. stealth wont always garauntee the win.





i hope we go to war with russia soon, plz God let it happen.

[Mod Edit: Removed Profanity]

[edit on 7/29/05 by FredT]



posted on Jul, 29 2005 @ 12:29 AM
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1) Please refrain from using profanity.
2) How old are you with this "Please go to war talk"


The Mig-31 is an interceptor period and its manuverability esp. at slow speeds is pretty poor. Its not intended to be a dog fighter but rather to have a sustained dash speed at high Mach numbers and down incoming bombers etc. Think F-106 etc. Look at the cockpit its straight ahead.

The F-15 is an agile dogfigter / air superiority fighter. Full buble canopy and highly manuverable. Rember too that the Mig-31 and F-15's top speed are in the clean configuration.

So that being said in a knife fight the Mig-31 would lose time and time again. BVR may be a better debate.

Now compare say the F-15 to the Su-30MMK etc. and that is a much better dogfight scenario.


I wont even comment on the Raptor Versus the Mig-31


[edit on 7/29/05 by FredT]



posted on Jul, 29 2005 @ 11:12 PM
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you could have these two planes battle it out all you want, the tech isnt what really matters its which one has a better pilot.



posted on Aug, 3 2005 @ 10:01 AM
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Check your source! The F-15 is an Air Superiority Fighter! It was design to go up against enemy fighters. The Mig-31, on the other hand, is an interceptor. It was built to counter the B-1B bomber. The Mig-31 was never really intended to dog fight!


Tim



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 07:27 AM
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The MiG-31 has better speed and slightly better ceiling, but that's all. The F-15 has better turn rate, climb rate, visibility, lower wing loading, higher thrust to weight ratio, and can make maneuvers with more g.



1) maximum speed

MiG-31 "Foxhound" 3000 km/h
F-15C Eagle 2698 km/h
F-15E Strike Eagle 2698 km/h


2) climb rate

F-15C Eagle 17500 m/min
F-15E Strike Eagle 16000 m/min
MiG-31 "Foxhound" 12480 m/min


3) ceiling

MiG-31 "Foxhound" 20600 m
F-15C Eagle 20000 m
F-15E Strike Eagle 18200 m


4) engine thrust

MiG-31 "Foxhound" 304 kN
F-15C Eagle 258 kN
F-15E Strike Eagle 258 kN


5A) weapons payload

F-15E Strike Eagle 11000 kg
F-15C Eagle 7300 kg
MiG-31 "Foxhound" 4000 kg


5B) cannon rounds

F-15C Eagle 940 (20 mm)
F-15E Strike Eagle 940 (20 mm)
MiG-31 "Foxhound" 260 (23 mm)


6) maximum range

F-15C Eagle 5745 km
F-15E Strike Eagle 3900 km
MiG-31 "Foxhound" 3300 km


7) thrust to weight ratio

F-15C Eagle 1.12
MiG-31 "Foxhound" 0.85


8) wing loading

F-15C Eagle 358 kg/m^2
MiG-31 "Foxhound" 665 kg/m^2


9) maximum g

F-15C Eagle +9 g
MiG-31 "Foxhound" +5 g


10) price

F-15K Strike Eagle 100 mil USD
MiG-31 "Foxhound" 60 mil USD
F-15E Strike Eagle 31.1 mil USD
F-15C Eagle 29.9 mil USD


8) production

F-15 Eagle 1198
MiG-31 "Foxhound" 500
F-15 Strike Eagle 334




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